news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[Gottasadae]

I remember, when MAGAts whined 24/7 how Biden is killing economy and destroying this country... now what? There's nothing to see here, let's wait another month, it's gonna be better 

 

[Thuggin]

51 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said:

Well… my anecdotal evidence above proves you wrong! Hehe 

I still think the best you can hope for from these people is that they sit out instead of voting Republican lol. I have family members who are like that. They consider themselves independent - which to them means "independent minded" because they don't believe what the mainstream media tells them - but they're clearly right-wing and would never vote for a Democrat. So they cycle between voting Republican and not being motivated enough to show up to vote at all.

[Bears01]

I truly think people don't understand the gravity of how bad these tariffs are…and I think the market is finally picking up on it, and that Trump (and now China) aren't bluffing 

[Starshine]

5 minutes ago, dabunique said:

all of us today 

 

worst is i'm 48, i guess i will be working into my 70's to recoop smh 

I feel bad for HagTRL that did not vote for this, I really do. I'm fine with taking several hits for now, but if this isn't a wake up call for America... bring the apocalypse, bring WW3. 

 

 

 

[RihRihGirrrl]

4 minutes ago, Bears01 said:

I truly think people don't understand the gravity of how bad these tariffs are…and I think the market is finally picking up on it, and that Trump (and now China) aren't bluffing 

Sigh....my husband and I are planning to move to Kenya next year and I was going to pull out all of my money out of my 401k before we made the move but now I don't know what to do 

[dabunique]

LOL

 

[ClashAndBurn]

24 minutes ago, dabunique said:

all of us today 

 

worst is i'm 48, i guess i will be working into my 70's to recoop smh 

They've been meaning to do away with retirement as a concept anyway. By the time the baby boomers are gone, there will be no Social Security left for Gen X or the elder Millennials to dip into. That's kind of been the plan all along since Reagan. They were going to just do it by continually raising the retirement age and forever making it more and more out of reach for us, but bankrupting the country and ruining the global economy will do it even easier I'm afraid.

[FameFatale]

42 minutes ago, Hey Babes said:

Is it true the orange man went to play golf in the middle of this chaos ? 

Yes. At his own country club in Florida he's hosting the Saudi owned Liv golf tournament and is also lining up his pockets from it. He does not care. 

[FameFatale]

29 minutes ago, Bears01 said:

I truly think people don't understand the gravity of how bad these tariffs are…and I think the market is finally picking up on it, and that Trump (and now China) aren't bluffing 

Part of me wonders if he truly thought they'd back down like Mexico and China did a month ago after seeing that Rose Garden stunt, but I guess they aren't.  

[Sannie]

30 minutes ago, Thuggin said:

I still think the best you can hope for from these people is that they sit out instead of voting Republican lol. I have family members who are like that. They consider themselves independent - which to them means "independent minded" because they don't believe what hat the mainstream media tells them - but they're clearly right-wing and would never vote for a Democrat. So they cycle between voting Republican and not being motivated enough to show up to vote at all.

yeah, the Democrats goal should not be to get Republicans to vote for them, it should be to get Republicans not to vote.  When you ask someone who has always voted Republican to vote democrat, you're asking them to fundamentally change how they view the world, and how they viewed the culture in which they've lived all their live lives. That is a huge, huge, huge thing to ask of people, and quite frankly it's unacceptable. No one changes their political views without some sort of life-changing circumstance.   But if you convince these people that the people running for office in their party are not worthy of their vote, that doesn't force them to question their existence or their place in the world.  It gives them the power to make a decision based on how they currently feel, which is that these politicians don't deserve their support, and it plays to their "I'm open minded and do my research bullshit.  I feel like there should be common sense, but I don't know. 
 

 

 

This is complete and total political malpractice. It is a complete dereliction of duty. Whoever decided this was a good idea should be banned from ever stepping foot into the political ring again.

[byzantium]

34 minutes ago, Gottasadae said:

I remember, when MAGAts whined 24/7 how Biden is killing economy and destroying this country... now what? There's nothing to see here, let's wait another month, it's gonna be better 

 

This is going to sound bleak but I bet a lot of them need to feel the actual economic pain before they become disenchanted with Trump.  The idea of seeing Wall street freak out is not something that they are going to care about.

[karron0624]

The drop for this last five minutes is about to be terrible, and my 401k buy is about to go in. 😅

[Lil Mxnster]

I was listening to a Spanish radio station focused on politics news, and one of the panelists said that the only explanation he could find for these protectionist measures is that, in a few years, by the end of Trump's second term, they would be justified as economic policies that actually work in war time --a war which, on the other hand, he would justify or trigger through his own actions--, ultimately leading to a possible third term. What do you think about this? Do you believe it's just a conspiracy theory, or that Trump actually has a plan beyond creating global economic chaos right now? 

Edited 10 hours ago by Lil Mxnster

[byzantium]

1 minute ago, Lil Mxnster said:

I was listening to a Spanish radio station focused on politics news, and one of the panelists said that the ony explanation he could find for these protectionist measures is that, in a few years, by the end of Trump's second term, they would be justified as economic policies that actually work in war time --a war which, on the other hand, he would justify or trigger through his own actions--, ultimately leading to a possible third term. What do you think about this? Do you believe it's just a conspiracy theory, or that Trump actually has a plan beyond creating global economic chaos right now? 

I trust the Spanish on their analysis of what a fascist would and would not do.  

[Thuggin]

The Republicans' vision of bringing manufacturing back is to take us back to the Gilded Age lol. That's why Florida is already easing child labor laws so kids can replace the immigrants that aren't showing up to work. Are we really envious of sweatshop jobs? The jobs are not coming back. People need to let it go. Even if we do manage to convince companies to invest onshore (with the government's help), build infrastructure, create and fill these jobs, and create enough demand for $100+ American-made T-shirts to sustain these jobs all within only a matter of years, automation is coming for these jobs anyway. And again that's all dependent on IF the companies agree to move their operations and make the investments here, which is highly unlikely given the amount of uncertainty regarding whether the tariffs will even last and what's to come with the boom of AI and other technological advancements.

[Relampago.]

The way I haven't had money to invest in anything besides my Roth IRA and 401k because of my job not paying quite enough to justify it, then I finally got a much higher paying job that started on Monday and… well, here we are

 

[Bears01]

21 minutes ago, byzantium said:

This is going to sound bleak but I bet a lot of them need to feel the actual economic pain before they become disenchanted with Trump.  The idea of seeing Wall street freak out is not something that they are going to care about.

Huge drops in the stock market usually=economic pain. They might not feel it this very instant, but unless something changes, we are in for a very bad summer 

 

24 minutes ago, Sannie said:

yeah, the Democrats goal should not be to get Republicans to vote for them, it should be to get Republicans not to vote.  When you ask someone who has always voted Republican to vote democrat, you're asking them to fundamentally change how they view the world, and how they viewed the culture in which they've lived all their live lives. That is a huge, huge, huge thing to ask of people, and quite frankly it's unacceptable. No one changes their political views without some sort of life-changing circumstance.   But if you convince these people that the people running for office in their party are not worthy of their vote, that doesn't force them to question their existence or their place in the world.  It gives them the power to make a decision based on how they currently feel, which is that these politicians don't deserve their support, and it plays to their "I'm open minded and do my research bullshit.  I feel like there should be common sense, but I don't know. 
 

 

 

This is complete and total political malpractice. It is a complete dereliction of duty. Whoever decided this was a good idea should be banned from ever stepping foot into the political ring again.

It's not a declaration of duty to rightfully point out that American workers were screwed over for generations due to jobs being outsourced, and that past leadership didn't properly use the tools at their disposal to fight back. Targeted tariffs=good. Blanket tariffs on everyone and everything=terrible. Simple 

[Ashley Banks]

43 minutes ago, Bears01 said:

I truly think people don't understand the gravity of how bad these tariffs are…and I think the market is finally picking up on it, and that Trump (and now China) aren't bluffing 

I honestly think the markets are being too optimistic. I think some investors still think he'll back down before the 9th, so they're not fully pricing in the tariffs. I think it'll get A LOT worse before it bottoms out.

[Wonderland]

15 minutes ago, Lil Mxnster said:

I was listening to a Spanish radio station focused on politics news, and one of the panelists said that the only explanation he could find for these protectionist measures is that, in a few years, by the end of Trump's second term, they would be justified as economic policies that actually work in war time --a war which, on the other hand, he would justify or trigger through his own actions--, ultimately leading to a possible third term. What do you think about this? Do you believe it's just a conspiracy theory, or that Trump actually has a plan beyond creating global economic chaos right now? 

I mean, he might not even survive this term the man is old  

[Communion]

3 hours ago, superglowy said:

The reason why Dems continue to do well despite not embracing progressive policies is because the majority of potential Dem voters are moderates.

Yeah but the average potential moderate voter also thinks Medicare For All is moderate and that middle class coastal black women are anti-white extremists who use DEI to control white people so what now?

 

The economic populists won the messaging battle. Trump won bexause economic populismn is popular and neoliberap austerity fused with identity fetishism is not. 

 

The average moderate wants cheap groceries and to not be aware trans people exist. I say we give them free college as a trade-off to not having to kill trans people. Sounds good?

[Redstreak]

20 minutes ago, Lil Mxnster said:

I was listening to a Spanish radio station focused on politics news, and one of the panelists said that the only explanation he could find for these protectionist measures is that, in a few years, by the end of Trump's second term, they would be justified as economic policies that actually work in war time --a war which, on the other hand, he would justify or trigger through his own actions--, ultimately leading to a possible third term. What do you think about this? Do you believe it's just a conspiracy theory, or that Trump actually has a plan beyond creating global economic chaos right now? 

I have heard some people speculate that "Ukraine cancelled their elections because of the war" could potentially be the trump plan in 2028 for themselves to follow 

[VOSS]

 

[Vroom Vroom]

5 minutes ago, Wonderland said:

I mean, he might not even survive this term the man is old  

Men like him live forever out of spite 

[Wonderland]

If we continue the Trump metaphor that the surgery on the US economy was completed yesterday and was now recovering…

 

Then I guess today represents the patient crashing and being rushed back to theatre only for the surgeon to realise that previous surgeon is a fraud who had no clue what they were doing and ****** up all the internal organs for nothing  

[superglowy]

5 minutes ago, Communion said:

Yeah but the average potential moderate voter also thinks Medicare For All is moderate and that middle class coastal black women are anti-white extremists who use DEI to control white people so what now?

 

The economic populists won the messaging battle. Trump won bexause economic populismn is popular and neoliberap austerity fused with identity fetishism is not. 

 

The average moderate wants cheap groceries and to not be aware trans people exist. I say we give them free college as a trade-off to not having to kill trans people. Sounds good?