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[Chemist]

1 hour ago, Redstreak said:

 

oh the schadenfreude is going to be

Trump turning MAGAs into communists was not in my 2025 bingo card

[woohoo]

55 minutes ago, jakeisphat said:

 

I got excited over Bernie and AOC at 16 combined then saw the spilt between Ds and Rs for the house. We're doomed

[bad guy]

Kinda screaming at the fact that there's been nothing but back-to-back recessions since the day I was born  Like starting out and living as an adult in this timeline would send a boomer into the psych ward

 

 

Spoiler

And somehow this is all Reagan's fault

 

[Sannie]

2 hours ago, Redstreak said:

 

oh the schadenfreude is going to be

MAGA: YOU WILL NEVER TAKE AWAY MY GAS STOVE, MY BIG TRUCK, MY GUNS, MY HAMBURGER...

MAGA: You don't actually need any possessions. 

[Sannie]

5 minutes ago, bad guy said:

Kinda screaming at the fact that there's been nothing but back-to-back recessions since the day I was born  Like starting out and living as an adult in this timeline would send a boomer into the psych ward

 

 

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And somehow this is all Reagan's fault

 

One could argue you are the problem... Recessions didn't exist prior to your birth.  

[Sannie]

5 hours ago, Relampago. said:

I really just happen to agree with these people because I believe they're correct. I mean I was willing to admit to the leftist girlies in here that I was wrong about Harris. I argued that people would be willing to look past her Republican appeals in order to keep Trump out of office, and that her intelligence and apparent care for the country would convince people to vote, even with mediocre and unclear policy. I even said that people shouldn't be protesting Harris at her rallies cause it wasn't the time or place, only for the protests to (somewhat) work, and get her to move an inch left on Gaza. I regret even saying that in the first place, cause there is never a bad time and place to protest someone allowing a genocide to take place. 

 

That's the thing, I'm not playing team sports here, I see legitimate flaws in the Democratic Party that were plain as day even before Harris lost. I wanted so badly for her to win so we could avoid Trump, because I felt pushing for progressive policies would be easier under her than Trump, and even if that's true, the progressives were correct about how badly she would lose. 

 

I don't feel allegiance or loyalty to a politician or party, I simply want what's logical and morally correct to be done. Democrats running the same game plan as the last 3 elections is not logically or morally correct. They were right about pretty much everything. And it wasn't stubborn leftists refusing to vote that caused the election results to be what they were, it was an uninspiring Democratic Party that failed to galvanize its base and get out the vote. We have to keep reminding ourselves of that, because it seems like every 4 years, we forget and roll over for whatever neoliberal copy the Dem establishment sh*ts out for us. And then we end up back here.

Ugh, I had a whole diatribe written out about leftists lol but I'll just say this. They weren't "right" about anything. Kamala didn't lose because of Gaza or because she wasn't progressive enough, she lost because of the economy and in big part because she's a black woman. We know this as a fact. She lost the moment she stepped foot in the ring; there was never a path to winning for her. You were doing what you could to protect yourself, your loved ones, vulnerable people in this country, and the country itself. You were not wrong for doing any of that or thinking any of the things you thought during the election. We fell in line because we knew we only had one chance to fight. We became lemmings for Kamala because WE HAD NO CHOICE. It was her or Trump. We chose the right side. We didn't act like petulant children or single-issue voters. We saw the bigger picture, we saw the forest through the trees, we walked the walk and talked the talk. You ******* went door to door in a Trump state putting your life on the line to try and protect people. Leftists sat online making racist TikToks about Kamala. We lost, but not for lack of trying. You don't have to resign yourself or regret the things you said because you did what you did for the betterment of others and not your own ego or desire to be purer and more ethical than others. Everything we were trying to stop is happening despite the left telling us our warnings were nothing more than "scare tactics to get them to vote for Kamala".

 

but anyways, **** the Dem party. Their only hope is that Trump fucks this up so badly people have no choice but to swing back to them... and it looks like that just may work lmaoooooo. Americans are so predictable.

Edited 22 hours ago by Sannie

[Thuggin]

I still think the vast majority of these tariffs disappear the minute the tax cuts pass. They'll leave super targeted ones like some on China I'm sure, but I just don't see a scenario where Trump lets the markets continue to tank over the course of his term no matter how much he personally believes in tariffs. He wants an excuse to reduce income taxes without resorting to cutting Medicaid and Social Security. When the bill passes, Trump will call off most of the tariffs, claim we got some great concessions from other countries and brought a lot of manufacturing home, and brag about how the tax cuts will spur growth and pay for themselves. Wall Street will have gotten richer buying the dips, Republicans in Congress will no longer care about the national debt, MAGA will forget they ever wanted the tariffs long term and claim we were successfully triggered and owned by Trump's masterful game of 4D chess, and that will be the last we ever hear about the tariffs again.

[Chemist]

Interesting. I wonder how this will change if (with capitals) dems go back to be pro-working class 

 

 

[Chemist]

The mental gymnastics

 

 

[spree]

6 hours ago, Thuggin said:

I still think the vast majority of these tariffs disappear the minute the tax cuts pass. They'll leave super targeted ones like some on China I'm sure, but I just don't see a scenario where Trump lets the markets continue to tank over the course of his term no matter how much he personally believes in tariffs. He wants an excuse to reduce income taxes without resorting to cutting Medicaid and Social Security. When the bill passes, Trump will call off most of the tariffs, claim we got some great concessions from other countries and brought a lot of manufacturing home, and brag about how the tax cuts will spur growth and pay for themselves. Wall Street will have gotten richer buying the dips, Republicans in Congress will no longer care about the national debt, MAGA will forget they ever wanted the tariffs long term and claim we were successfully triggered and owned by Trump's masterful game of 4D chess, and that will be the last we ever hear about the tariffs again.

you mean tax cuts for the rich? Income taxes for the rich?

[FameFatale]

 

[dabunique]

 

 

[FameFatale]

I know it's not surprising but Fox News isn't really covering the tariffs, and if they do it's a "this is good" spin   

Their main issues this week have have been:

- Transgender people playing sports (especially the story about a fencer kneeling in protest that they've played until infinity) 

- A white teenage male stabbed by a black male at a track meet

- Immigrants, the border, crime (all fear based propaganda)

- DOGE/Elon finding soooo much fraud 

Edited 14 hours ago by FameFatale

[GipJo]

3 minutes ago, FameFatale said:

I know it's not surprising but Fox News isn't really covering the tariffs, and if they do it's a "this is good" spin   

Their main issues this week have have been:

- Transgender people playing sports (especially the story about a fencer kneeling in protest that they've played until infinity) 

- A white teenage male stabbed by a black male at a track meet

- Immigrants, the border, crime (all fear based propaganda)

- DOGE/Elon finding soooo much fraud 

What did they say about China's retaliate tariffs? Rare earth export control?

[FameFatale]

5 minutes ago, GipJo said:

What did they say about China's retaliate tariffs? Rare earth export control?

I haven't watched Fox and Friends yet this morning but I saw a clip earlier and they're still spinning it as short term pain or Trump knows what he's doing BS. But Fox Business seems to be laying it on with facts, but nobody really watching Fox Business  

Edited 14 hours ago by FameFatale

[on the line]

7 hours ago, Thuggin said:

I still think the vast majority of these tariffs disappear the minute the tax cuts pass. They'll leave super targeted ones like some on China I'm sure, but I just don't see a scenario where Trump lets the markets continue to tank over the course of his term no matter how much he personally believes in tariffs. He wants an excuse to reduce income taxes without resorting to cutting Medicaid and Social Security. When the bill passes, Trump will call off most of the tariffs, claim we got some great concessions from other countries and brought a lot of manufacturing home, and brag about how the tax cuts will spur growth and pay for themselves. Wall Street will have gotten richer buying the dips, Republicans in Congress will no longer care about the national debt, MAGA will forget they ever wanted the tariffs long term and claim we were successfully triggered and owned by Trump's masterful game of 4D chess, and that will be the last we ever hear about the tariffs again.

You say this every time something happens with this administration. I'm quite curious why you're always giving him the benefit of the doubt. Does he backtrack? Yeah, often, but not every time. Dems definitely don't seem to get this sort of Grace from you so it's quite curious.

[on the line]

7 hours ago, Sannie said:

Ugh, I had a whole diatribe written out about leftists lol but I'll just say this. They weren't "right" about anything. Kamala didn't lose because of Gaza or because she wasn't progressive enough, she lost because of the economy and in big part because she's a black woman. We know this as a fact. She lost the moment she stepped foot in the ring; there was never a path to winning for her. You were doing what you could to protect yourself, your loved ones, vulnerable people in this country, and the country itself. You were not wrong for doing any of that or thinking any of the things you thought during the election. We fell in line because we knew we only had one chance to fight. We became lemmings for Kamala because WE HAD NO CHOICE. It was her or Trump. We chose the right side. We didn't act like petulant children or single-issue voters. We saw the bigger picture, we saw the forest through the trees, we walked the walk and talked the talk. You ******* went door to door in a Trump state putting your life on the line to try and protect people. Leftists sat online making racist TikToks about Kamala. We lost, but not for lack of trying. You don't have to resign yourself or regret the things you said because you did what you did for the betterment of others and not your own ego or desire to be purer and more ethical than others. Everything we were trying to stop is happening despite the left telling us our warnings were nothing more than "scare tactics to get them to vote for Kamala".

 

but anyways, **** the Dem party. Their only hope is that Trump fucks this up so badly people have no choice but to swing back to them... and it looks like that just may work lmaoooooo. Americans are so predictable.

This poster just has a lot of feelings, but I do think their heart is in the right place. They do seem to be easily influenced by the loudest voices and get easily lost in the noise. 

 

But, you summed up the election (again, and, again, we are still talking about something nearly 6 months ago...again and again???) for those of us who knew what a Trump win meant for the world. Just sad all around.

[Thuggin]

51 minutes ago, spree said:

you mean tax cuts for the rich? Income taxes for the rich?

 

11 minutes ago, on the line said:

You say this every time something happens with this administration. I'm quite curious why you're always giving him the benefit of the doubt. Does he backtrack? Yeah, often, but not every time. Dems definitely don't seem to get this sort of Grace from you so it's quite curious.

Okay I don't know how this got construed as me praising Trump  I'm just saying above all else Trump, like all Republicans, prioritizes tax cuts for the rich. And so the tariffs may just be an excuse to make them happen  And to manipulate the stock market to keep enriching his wealthy cronies. Even if he is a fool, Trump is king of distractions and he knows exactly how to play the media / everyone, so we have to be thinking three moves ahead.

[on the line]

1 minute ago, Thuggin said:

 

Okay I don't know how this got construed as me praising Trump  I'm just saying above all else Trump, like all Republicans, prioritizes tax cuts for the rich. And so the tariffs may just be an excuse to make them happen  And to manipulate the stock market to keep enriching his wealthy cronies.

My comment was less about this particular comment (though I do disagree with your analysis--i think Trump is in it for himself - he could care less about others wealth unless they will be of use to him--but rather it seems you always find some justification for his actions. Just a long-standing observation I've had; that's all.

[FameFatale]

@GipJo I just watched their coverage and they only spent maybe 10 minutes on it and just as I thought, they're pushing the markets are up and down because of uncertainty but "Trump knows what he's doing." Brian Kilmeade did say this could really hurt the pharmaceutical and defense industry because we get a lot of medication and parts from China and he was hitting some good facts about what a mess the retaliate China tariffs would do, but then Lawrence Jones pushed back and said "Well, this will just make more jobs and items made in America. Trump is a deal maker."  Followed by clips of people praising Trump for being such a good deal maker on past media hits.  Then then transitioned to the migrant fear and propaganda of an immigrant hitting a girl with a car. Like ONE person out of a million and that's the story they choose out of hundreds that happen. 

[Thuggin]

The market today  PRONOUNS BACK IN BIOS! NOW! Wokeness was the only thing keeping this market afloat

 

[karron0624]

I might have been right on that 3% drop call yesterday.

[dabunique]

 

 

[dabunique]

[FameFatale]