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[dabunique]

 

 

[dabunique]

meanwhile on FOX

 

[FameFatale]

3 minutes ago, dabunique said:

meanwhile on FOX

 

Just like I said the previous page. They distract and Pavlov their audience into thinking it's Biden's issue even though Trump is the president now and causing all this chaos. Markets crash, jobs being laid off... Oh let's put Biden's face and disaster on the chyron!!! 

[ClashAndBurn]

2 minutes ago, FameFatale said:

Just like I said the previous page. They distract and Pavlov their audience into thinking it's Biden's issue even though Trump is the president now and causing all this chaos. Markets crash, jobs being laid off... Oh let's put Biden's face and disaster on the chyron!!! 

Biden is the reason we're in this mess, though not for the reasons they'd like us to believe.

 

Biden made Trump 2.0 inevitable by failing to deliver and failing to get out of the way when he needed to. He should forever be remembered as a James Buchanan-level failure rather than the FDR-level success he wanted to be seen as.

[on the line]

4 minutes ago, FameFatale said:

Just like I said the previous page. They distract and Pavlov their audience into thinking it's Biden's issue even though Trump is the president now and causing all this chaos. Markets crash, jobs being laid off... Oh let's put Biden's face and disaster on the chyron!!! 

Lbr, the same thing happens here. I've been lolling at all the Biden posts recently. Move the **** on. Everyone!

[on the line]

Just now, on the line said:

Lbr, the same thing happens here. I've been lolling at all the Biden posts recently. Move the **** on. Everyone!

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@ THE POST ABOVE ME. Can't make it up!

[Chemist]

Why would anyone move on from discussing Biden if he is the main reason we are in this situation? 

it's like discussing WW2 and someone saying "move on from Hitler!!!!1"

[ClashAndBurn]

11 minutes ago, on the line said:

Lbr, the same thing happens here. I've been lolling at all the Biden posts recently. Move the **** on. Everyone!

 

11 minutes ago, on the line said:

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@ THE POST ABOVE ME. Can't make it up!

Embarrassing that you can't see the failures of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are why we are where we are. If yall can't own up to this extremely basic fact, you're going to be back here at the same place scratching your heads in confusion, wondering why IDF volunteer Josh Shapiro couldn't beat JD Vance in 2028.

[on the line]

6 minutes ago, Chemist said:

Why would anyone move on from discussing Biden if he is the main reason we are in this situation? 

it's like discussing WW2 and someone saying "move on from Hitler!!!!1"

Yikes. Now comparing Biden to Hitler as we witness what's going on in this country (and world)?

 

Thoughts and big tariffs to you.

[Pikachoo]

 

[Gaia]

The main reason we are in this situation is actually Trump, Musk, and his bought politicians. 
 

You guys are acting like a democrat would have won if Biden dropped out earlier. You have literally 0 basis for that. You also have 0 basis to assume a different Democratic politician would have had a difference stance on Israel/Gaza. Also zero basis for that. It's easy to have the "good guy" stance when you know it holds no impact. 
 

So weird that you guys don't blame the actual person doing the absurdity and still obsess over blaming Biden/Kamala for everything. 

Edited Thursday at 03:49 PM by Gaia

[Relampago.]

There's obviously fault in Biden's admin that led us to this point, and obviously Trump is at fault now for, somehow, making everything worse than it was before.

 

It's about the whole picture ladies. Biden and Trump are both dog p!sswater. Understanding both of their failures is equally as important, one for helping us understand how to not get to this point and one for helping us understand how awful things can actually be if the former understanding isn't properly addressed. 

 

No point in saying who's more at fault, when both men are truly awful. Plenty of lashings to go around.

[FameFatale]

 

 

[ClashAndBurn]

15 minutes ago, Gaia said:

The main reason we are in this situation is actually Trump, Musk, and his bought politicians. 
 

You guys are acting like a democrat would have won if Biden dropped out earlier. You have literally 0 basis for that. You also have 0 basis to assume a different Democratic politician would have had a difference stance on Israel/Gaza. Also zero basis for that. It's easy to have the "good guy" stance when you know it holds no impact. 
 

So weird that you guys don't blame the actual person doing the absurdity and still obsess over blaming Biden/Kamala for everything. 

The moment Biden chose to run for a second term was the moment Trump won the election. Him dropping out earlier than last July wouldn't have prevented what was a foregone conclusion. Him running at all is why we are here today. His Attorney General's failure to prosecute Trump early is why we are here today. 
 

The fact that any Democrat would have had the same pro-genocide stance as Holocaust Harris and Genocide Joe also means they would have deserved to lose to Trump just as much

[ClashAndBurn]

2 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

There's obviously fault in Biden's admin that led us to this point, and obviously Trump is at fault now for, somehow, making everything worse than it was before.

 

It's about the whole picture ladies. Biden and Trump are both dog p!sswater. Understanding both of their failures is equally as important, one for helping us understand how to not get to this point and one for helping us understand how awful things can actually be if the former understanding isn't properly addressed. 

 

No point in saying who's more at fault, when both men are truly awful. Plenty of lashings to go around.

They just want to hide their heads in the sand and believe their side is nothing but good and perfect while the other side is bad and responsible for everything that is wrong in the world.

 

Reality isn't so simple. It's just a shame that neither conservatives nor liberals choose to live in it.

[Armani.]

Susan Crawford overperformed both Kamala & Biden in Hispanic Precincts in Milwaukee, decently over 80% support.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/steve-kornacki-susan-crawford-win-wisconsin-democrat-voter-intensity-rcna199312

 

The Black Ward margins in Milwaukee were also very high, up to 97% support which was higher than the last 2 presidential elections there

 

[Harrier]

It's one thing to point out Bidens failures as a context or when it's relevant. I agree his decision to run is largely responsible for the defeat in 2024. However that does not make him personally responsible for every Trump action to the point where his name needs to be brought up every time Trump does anything. Ditto Kamala. Its Biden/Harris derangment syndrome at this point with many users, such is the obsession.

 

Guess what... as much as you may hate them, they did not want this to happrn and even though they were wrong and made many mistakes, they did try very hard to prevent it, especially Kamala. Maybe for once in your lives actually place some responsibility on the idiotic short term memories American voters and on... you know... the people actually doing the current bad things 

 

Plus, the users in question have consistently been accused by myself and others of being democrat obsessed, own the libs at all costs type people. So only serving as further evidence of this I'm afraid

 

[EnigmaticAndroid]

2 hours ago, FameFatale said:

Honestly, at this point they're so deep in the cult I don't think anything would snap them out of it. They will just blame someone else. Trump could be holding the matches and gas burning their house in front of them while yelling "Joe Biden and the Deomcrats did this" and they'd be screaming about they lost their house and money because of Joe Biden, George Soros, and AOC.  They're so deep in the propaganda machine that common sense is long gone. 

We really are gonna have to wait for the b*tch to croak, and even then there will be people worshipping his corpse or convinced that his death was faked by the deep state. 

[i spit on haters]

Donnie is threating to cut off funding for public schools, which already receives very little, especially in inner cities, if they don't end any programs deemed DEI. I wake up every morning with more and more distain for this country and everyone who voted for him. And his own supporters are ******* themselves over in the process to 'stick it to the radical libs'. May they never know peace, good health and prosperity moving forward. And it's the poorest of the poor, too. Idiots. 

[Harrier]

8 minutes ago, Harrier said:

It's one thing to point out Bidens failures as a context or when it's relevant. I agree his decision to run is largely responsible for the defeat in 2024. However that does not make him personally responsible for every Trump action to the point where his name needs to be brought up every time Trump does anything. Ditto Kamala. Its Biden/Harris derangment syndrome at this point with many users, such is the obsession.

 

Guess what... as much as you may hate them, they did not want this to happrn and even though they were wrong and made many mistakes, they did try very hard to prevent it, especially Kamala. Maybe for once in your lives actually place some responsibility on the idiotic short term memories American voters and on... you know... the people actually doing the current bad things 

 

Plus, the users in question have consistently been accused by myself and others of being democrat obsessed, own the libs at all costs type people. So only serving as further evidence of this I'm afraid

 

And to add to this, if we are making dumb and pointless Nazi Germany analogies, the equivalent thinking would be to continue to yap about the German left and centre who lost to Hitler in 1932 while the Second World War and the Holocaust were happening. Not whatever the hell else was said

[VOSS]

lmfao

[anastaciabby]

17 minutes ago, Harrier said:

It's one thing to point out Bidens failures as a context or when it's relevant. I agree his decision to run is largely responsible for the defeat in 2024. However that does not make him personally responsible for every Trump action to the point where his name needs to be brought up every time Trump does anything. Ditto Kamala. Its Biden/Harris derangment syndrome at this point with many users, such is the obsession.

 

Guess what... as much as you may hate them, they did not want this to happrn and even though they were wrong and made many mistakes, they did try very hard to prevent it, especially Kamala. Maybe for once in your lives actually place some responsibility on the idiotic short term memories American voters and on... you know... the people actually doing the current bad things 

 

Plus, the users in question have consistently been accused by myself and others of being democrat obsessed, own the libs at all costs type people. So only serving as further evidence of this I'm afraid

 

Thank you.

Nobody is saying they aren't at fault but atp it seems like an obsession that is adding nothing of value. Worry about the worthless Dems that are currently in office

And yea the own the libs narrative is tired and a weird parallel to take from the right

[Relampago.]

9 minutes ago, Harrier said:

It's one thing to point out Bidens failures as a context or when it's relevant. I agree his decision to run is largely responsible for the defeat in 2024. However that does not make him personally responsible for every Trump action to the point where his name needs to be brought up every time Trump does anything. Ditto Kamala. Its Biden/Harris derangment syndrome at this point with many users, such is the obsession.

 

Guess what... as much as you may hate them, they did not want this to happrn and even though they were wrong and made many mistakes, they did try very hard to prevent it, especially Kamala. Maybe for once in your lives actually place some responsibility on the idiotic short term memories American voters and on... you know... the people actually doing the current bad things 

 

Plus, the users in question have consistently been accused by myself and others of being democrat obsessed, own the libs at all costs type people. So only serving as further evidence of this I'm afraid

 

I just.. don't really feel sympathy for Biden and Harris? I can blame the short term memories of Americans till the cows come home, but at the end of the day the Democratic Party is the one who have the power to actually do something about that, so blaming them is a dead end. And on top of that, Harris and Biden aren't going to be facing the consequences of their failures— the American people are. So I don't really care if their feelings are hurt cause "they really tried!"

 

And… did they try? I'm just not convinced about that. They pretty much rolled over every time something didn't go their way and basically said "we'll get 'em next time!" meanwhile Trump is moving heaven and hell to do whatever it takes to make the worst of everything happen. The bare minimum would have been pressing Merrick Garland to go after Trump, but not even that happened. Harris ran a God awful campaign and got curb stomped. If she had run a better campaign, and still lost, I'd speak more kindly of her, but I just don't care to. I owe nothing to her, and neither does anyone else, so I might as well just speak uncomfortable truths— Biden and Harris have a heavy hand in leading us to where we are now. Maybe it's not entirely their fault but they are key players.

 

And sorry to anyone that upsets, annoys or makes uncomfortable too, but we don't need to do a round robin of hating Trump constantly. This is a left-wing site and 99% of people here hate him. The more apropos topic and point of contention is the near constant failures of the Democratic establishment in the last decade. We celebrated the win in Wisconsin just a few days ago, and the left shift in Florida as well. There is praise and celebration when it's time, and important discussion at other times, which involves addressing Biden/Harris's role in how we got here. 

 

This isn't a place for circlejerking Democrats or a place to only speak on how awful Trump is. We can only say "Trump is awful!" into the echo chamber so many times before it just gets pedantic. Talking about both sides and point out the flaws in the opposition party to see how we can work to improve it comes with the topic of this thread, and that does involve addressing the Biden admin's failures. Yes, some users hit heavier on that topic than they do on Trump, but that's balanced out with how many of us focus on just Trump in this thread as well. 

If you liked Biden/Harris, I guess that's fine, but saying those who don't and still feel anger for them letting us down is not deranged, it's important discussion.

[Relampago.]

11 minutes ago, Harrier said:

And to add to this, if we are making dumb and pointless Nazi Germany analogies, the equivalent thinking would be to continue to yap about the German left and centre who lost to Hitler in 1932 while the Second World War and the Holocaust were happening. Not whatever the hell else was said

You and that other user are taking this argument in bad faith. Biden is not being compared to Hitler, the analogy was clearly just a reference to "if we don't pay attention to history, it will repeat itself". 

 

In this instance, if we don't see the flaws of the Biden admin and the Harris campaign, then we might as well give up on 2028 now. 

 

If you want to call others deranged, the least you can do is try to approach their arguments in good faith and with understanding— not attempt to read between the lines where there's nothing to be read.

[Redstreak]

35 minutes ago, Harrier said:

It's one thing to point out Bidens failures as a context or when it's relevant. I agree his decision to run is largely responsible for the defeat in 2024. However that does not make him personally responsible for every Trump action to the point where his name needs to be brought up every time Trump does anything. Ditto Kamala. Its Biden/Harris derangment syndrome at this point with many users, such is the obsession.

 

Guess what... as much as you may hate them, they did not want this to happrn and even though they were wrong and made many mistakes, they did try very hard to prevent it, especially Kamala. Maybe for once in your lives actually place some responsibility on the idiotic short term memories American voters and on... you know... the people actually doing the current bad things 

 

Plus, the users in question have consistently been accused by myself and others of being democrat obsessed, own the libs at all costs type people. So only serving as further evidence of this I'm afraid

 

Chuck Schumer literally rolled over a week or two ago, it's a collaborationist party no matter how much little slogans and empty speeches convince… some people