ClashAndBurn Posted January 15 Posted January 15 32 minutes ago, RihRihGirrrl said: This is unfortunately all for show... They will violate the ceasefire, blame it on Hamas, and continue on with their plans to wipe out the Palestinians and steal all of Gaza before they eventually turn their attention to the west bank.Β Well, yes, everyone should expect this. They did exactly that same move with Lebanon not even three months ago.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted January 15 ATRL Moderator Posted January 15 8 minutes ago, LIT said: Β Came here to post this. If only there was a group of people trying to tell the Democrats of this exact issue before the election. Β 1
ClashAndBurn Posted January 15 Posted January 15 9 minutes ago, Bloo said: Came here to post this. If only there was a group of people trying to tell the Democrats of this exact issue before the election. Β That's the thing though. Liberals were gloating endlessly about how exit polling showed that Gaza was meaningless, but my stance has always more or less been that exit polling doesn't capture sentiments from non-voters. And while it might not have been "the most important issue" regardless, it was assuredly a factor in a close election like this. Β Even though they're all acting like it's a massive landslide and Trump has such a mandate that Dems need to shift heavily towards the right in order to ever win again Β 1
ClashAndBurn Posted January 15 Posted January 15 10 minutes ago, GhostBox said:  Do understand though⦠Biden and Blinken have portrayed from the very beginning that this deal was being rejected from Hamas when in reality, they've agreed to this exact same framework since MAY. Israel are the ones who've rejected it and added more conditions to it over and over, and the Biden Administration provided them cover to do so the entire time.  Your heaping of praise on a cabal of evil, genocidal freaks like Joe Biden and Antony Blinken is NOT going to work here. 1
GhostBox Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Do understand thoughβ¦ Biden and Blinken have portrayed from the very beginning that this deal was being rejected from Hamas when in reality, they've agreed to this exact same framework since MAY. Israel are the ones who've rejected it and added more conditions to it over and over, and the Biden Administration provided them cover to do so the entire time. Β Your heaping of praise on a cabal of evil, genocidal freaks like Joe Biden and Antony Blinken is NOT going to work here. Those videos aren't about praising. Just clips from his news conference. π€· Edited January 15 by GhostBox
ClashAndBurn Posted January 15 Posted January 15 9 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Those videos aren't about praising. Just clips from his news conference. π€· ATRL doesn't exist in a vacuum and I've seen your posts in other threads Β If Kamala had been elected instead, and the exact same deal fell through even though Hamas supported it, Biden and Blinken would be siding with Israel all the way.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted January 15 ATRL Moderator Posted January 15 30 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: That's the thing though. Liberals were gloating endlessly about how exit polling showed that Gaza was meaningless, but my stance has always more or less been that exit polling doesn't capture sentiments from non-voters. And while it might not have been "the most important issue" regardless, it was assuredly a factor in a close election like this. Β Even though they're all acting like it's a massive landslide and Trump has such a mandate that Dems need to shift heavily towards the right in order to ever win again Β Agreed. Even if it weren't a universal issue, these elections are won on the margins. 100k people in Michigan voted non-committed in the "Democratic primary" to stand in solidarity with Palestinians and show they are unhappy with Biden's handling of Gaza. Kamala lost Michigan by 70k votes. To suggest that her refusal to shift direction had nothing to do with the outcome is absurd. It was always a premise riddled with cope. 3
dabunique Posted January 15 Posted January 15 3 hours ago, FameFatale said: Β Oh if history would be so kind and repeat itself with what happened in 1841
CandyCoatedClouds Posted January 15 Posted January 15 7 hours ago, Vermillion said: Β I love Jasmine Crockett,Β she's incredible and an inspiration to me. Also those asshata trying to soften Mace's comments made me almost gag. If the shoe had been on the other foot, they would have taken those words as a threat. The double standard is just too much. 5 hours ago, Vermillion said: Β My state is so embarrassing sometimes. Whether it be Ohio or NC. 4 hours ago, GhostBox said: The way Kamala looks at the reporter π Β Β Β Biden has his flaws, but I will miss his funny moments like this.
dman4life Posted January 16 Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, VOSS said: Β She needs to let go of this bitterness. Your husband was too old and senile to do another 4 years and you shoulda talked him out of running for another term in 2022 instead of focusing on your First Lady vanity project. You and husband's selfishness lead us right into fascism girl bye! 2
GhostBox Posted January 16 Posted January 16 A year from now when shits hitting the fan people will be wishing old Joe was back in charge. That was good farewell address Β ππΌ Β America deserves the mess it's gonna get.Β 1
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