news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[VOSS]

 

[ClashAndBurn]

12 minutes ago, VOSS said:

 

Another classic example of "Democrats need to just be Republicans"  

[Chemist]

Shameful administration

[Virgos Groove]

17 hours ago, Communion said:

Like the amount of liberal "Elections Twitter" users who are just largely affluent European ****-posters who partake in US elections discourse "as a hobby" (). Framing Sanders as some right-winger or reactionary just because YOU feel entitled as an affluent French or Slavic twink to one day come to America because you feel like your upbringing and class should entitle you to it more than poorer people from the same country as you.

I read this part and thought "okay, a lot of Euro libs on US election Twitter are upper class, but it's not fair to say it's a generalized thing. It's natural that people keep up with what happens in the world's largest superpower and there's a wide ideological spec-

 

Touché, Communion. Touché.

[CandyCoatedClouds]

So how well do we think Vance will work with congress in enacting the 2025 agenda? I'm just asking because I honestly don't think Trump will make it the next four years (I think his unhealthy lifestyle + plus old age will get him)and I think it'll happen within the next two years (at least, that's what the psychics keep saying) which means Vance will be president.  I don't think he'll get much done honestly, he doesn't have charisma or charm and he doesn't have the ability to threaten the same way Trump does. 

[19SLAYty9]

I've been thinking and the whole "we can never nominate a woman for the decade" thing is bs. Do you think in 2004 anyone thought the 2008 nominee would be a black man running on change and go on to win? 
 

I actually think the worse off that things get under Trump, the more likely a woman does win in 2028

[If U Seek Amy]

36 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said:

I've been thinking and the whole "we can never nominate a woman for the decade" thing is bs. Do you think in 2004 anyone thought the 2008 nominee would be a black man running on change and go on to win? 
 

I actually think the worse off that things get under Trump, the more likely a woman does win in 2028

Exactly my thoughts. As long as things go awfully, likely as they are based on Trump's record, if you run a woman again that is reasonably electable you can probably eek out a win barely just like Biden did in 2020 (and Trump in 2016 and 2024). I expect this trend of vibes making people flip parties each election to continue. Let the media flash how awful everything is again for 4 years to them and mood will change fast

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[VOSS]

4 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Another classic example of "Democrats need to just be Republicans"  

In the present day Dems likely benefit more from voter ID restrictions. Since Republicans are constantly whining about it and using it to attack the Dems might as well just do it 

[Bhabylon]

What's going on in this country rn?  
 

All the terrorism, planes being shot down, and public violence recently has been scary to see. every day, there's another scary story 

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[CandyCoatedClouds]

Also you guys are too harsh on Kamala. And she really didn't lose by much in terms of actual votes. 75 to 77 in a country of 240 million eligible voters isn't terrible, that's actually pretty close. 

 

She was a mixed woman who had only five years of public recognition compared to Trump who has had 30 plus years of public recognition,  a hit TV show, has been in a hit movie and was previously president already. It's incredibly difficult to go against that with only 110 days of running with an already unpopular administration. 

 

For all we know, she could be the Richard Nixon of our time. Lose a close race, sit out and election to be governor of California and then come back and win in 2032. Who knows 🤷‍♀️ 

[ClashAndBurn]

5 hours ago, Bhabylon said:

What's going on in this country rn?  
 

All the terrorism, planes being shot down, and public violence recently has been scary to see. every day, there's another scary story 

Whether it's a psyop or not, the government is predictably going to use it as a pretext for justifying pre-emptive strikes against Iran, possibly escalating to full-blown war (which would require reinstatement of the draft). Probably greater crackdowns domestically against protests and such as well.

 

The FBI letting the Zionazi NY Post reporter into the New Orleans attacker's home would be a pretty big indicator for it being one, but I'm doubtful. I think our government seems to just be completely incompetent. Especially since it's being led by one of the most incompetent presidents of all time for the next two weeks

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[Gaia]

8 hours ago, CandyCoatedClouds said:

Also you guys are too harsh on Kamala. And she really didn't lose by much in terms of actual votes. 75 to 77 in a country of 240 million eligible voters isn't terrible, that's actually pretty close. 

 

She was a mixed woman who had only five years of public recognition compared to Trump who has had 30 plus years of public recognition,  a hit TV show, has been in a hit movie and was previously president already. It's incredibly difficult to go against that with only 110 days of running with an already unpopular administration. 

 

For all we know, she could be the Richard Nixon of our time. Lose a close race, sit out and election to be governor of California and then come back and win in 2032. Who knows 🤷‍♀️ 

She was also getting a lot of flack from Biden's doing. I don't particularly care for her to run again (she was the best for what we had with Biden dropping out but we really need a charismatic candidate in 2028 who doesn't stumble on their words so much. We someone as good as wooing audiences as the Obamas were).

 

I've blocked like 3 users in here for their constantly dooming and just hating everything and everyone at this point. Like, at a certain point it's not constructive criticism but just blatant vitriol and hatred and who cares for that. 

[Bears01]

I'm sorry there's no convincing me that Kamala is a good candidate and should run again 

 

Hillary did better than her. Trump entered office in 2017 unpopular and disliked and the Democratic Party was poised to rise up due to that. 
 

Now? Trump enters office with the public being neutral to if not liking him, and the Democratic Party will be lucky to just get the house back in 2026. That's really it 

[CandyCoatedClouds]

3 hours ago, Gaia said:

She was also getting a lot of flack from Biden's doing. I don't particularly care for her to run again (she was the best for what we had with Biden dropping out but we really need a charismatic candidate in 2028 who doesn't stumble on their words so much. We someone as good as wooing audiences as the Obamas were).

 

I've blocked like 3 users in here for their constantly dooming and just hating everything and everyone at this point. Like, at a certain point it's not constructive criticism but just blatant vitriol and hatred and who cares for that. 

Yeah that's my biggest gripe with the thread for the last several months. Too much trashing and dooming and glooming and nothing constructive or interesting to replace that

 I know we're mad that Donald won and Kamala wasn't the world's strongest candidate but this type of vitriol makes you roll your eyes whenever you see it.

Edited yesterday at 05:41 PM by CandyCoatedClouds

[ClashAndBurn]

 

[ClashAndBurn]

47 minutes ago, CandyCoatedClouds said:

Yeah that's my biggest gripe with the thread for the last several months. Too much trashing and dooming and glooming and nothing constructive or interesting to replace that

 I know we're mad that Donald won and Kamala wasn't the world's strongest candidate but this type of vitriol makes you roll your eyes whenever you see it.

The Democratic Party deserves every ounce of the roasting they've earned for their humiliating loss. Kamala Harris lost worse than Hillary. She literally lost the popular vote. To a felon convicted on 34 counts. That is EMBARRASSING! That is not something you just bounce back and recover from, especially with the Dems' usual prescribed method of chasing Republicans as they move further and further to the right. Demanding blind positivity like Gaia is just another way to stick your heads in the sand and deny that your repudiation was decisive and will have lasting effects for decades to come because your party only ever nominates failures and losers.

 

Like, ok, yall assume the pendulum is going to just swing back to Dems because that's how it always works, right? Y'all won't accomplish anything. Senate Dems are done for forever. And when every Dem president from now on is a lame duck who will never be able to even confirm another SCOTUS justice ever again, let alone a cabinet or anything at all… they won't get re-elected.

Edited yesterday at 06:29 PM by ClashAndBurn

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[Communion]

5 hours ago, Gaia said:

I've blocked like 3 users in here for their constantly dooming and just hating everything and everyone at this point. Like, at a certain point it's not constructive criticism but just blatant vitriol and hatred and who cares for that. 

THIS...from YOU? 

 

 

[CandyCoatedClouds]

34 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

The Democratic Party deserves every ounce of the roasting they've earned for their humiliating loss. Kamala Harris lost worse than Hillary. She literally lost the popular vote. To a felon convicted on 34 counts. That is EMBARRASSING! That is not something you just bounce back and recover from, especially with the Dems' usual prescribed method of chasing Republicans as they move further and further to the right. Demanding blind positivity like Gaia is just another way to stick your heads in the sand and deny that your repudiation was decisive and will have lasting effects for decades to come because your party only ever nominates failures and losers.

 

Like, ok, yall assume the pendulum is going to just swing back to Dems because that's how it always works, right? Y'all won't accomplish anything. Senate Dems are done for forever. And when every Dem president from now on is a lame duck who will never be able to even confirm another SCOTUS justice ever again, let alone a cabinet or anything at all… they won't get re-elected.

The democratic party sucks and is too right wing and is bought by corporate donors, I don't disagree with that. If I had my way we'd have at least a four party system, lobbying would be illegal and there'd be no money in politics. However we don't live in that world. All we can do is try to campaign and vote in people like AOC and Jasmine Crockett, younger people who actually care.

 

However when does the ragging on the party stop with you and we actually talk about how we're going to move forward and what can be done instead of this destructive pity party that's going on in here held by people with "I told you so know it all" attitudes like what you're doing now. When does that stop? Please let me know.

[Communion]

1 hour ago, CandyCoatedClouds said:

Too much trashing and dooming and glooming and nothing constructive or interesting to replace that

I mean, this could be tea, which is why I focus more on how the left will replace liberalism because socialism means a radically optimistic () view of humanity that most people are good and good (the left) will prevail over evil (capitalism, whether protected by liberals or conservatives).

 

But if I post about how Bernie crafting policy to stop the crony capitalism of billionaires wanting H-1B visas and how this is both good and the future of the Dems, the good sis Ghostbox will have an aneurysm from whatever DC-based thinktank office he posts on ATRL from and still complain about 'negativity' too. 

Edited yesterday at 07:17 PM by Communion

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