ClashAndBurn Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, GhostBox said: The Dems have a good shot at taking over the house again under Trump. The 2028 dem nominee also has a good shot after 4 years of Trump. the only ones who won't have a shot for a while are the senate dems. With Jeffries as the House Speaker? As if! That man is repulsive, and if the Dems had any sense, they'd throw him off a cliff, but they don't because they vote in lockstep with whatever that old Crypt Keeper-lookin'-ass ***** tells them to. You assume that the threat of Trump is this unifying force that will bring the country to rally around the Dems, but we literally just saw the opposite happen. The country unified to throw out Kamala Harris after she and the rest of the administration conspired to cover-up Biden's physical and mental decline. Trump has never been more popular than he is right now. Democrats haven't been this deep in the wilderness since they got btfo'd by Reagan. At some point, you've gotta just admit you were wrong, your party's moderate platform is a massive flop, and the whole idea of running as "Republicans! but slightly less bad!" isn't an inspiring message and has proven for almost a decade now to be a miserable failure of a strategy. The fact that the Dems gave one of the warmest standing ovations possible to one of the worst chickenhawk war pigs in American history yesterday should really start to give you pause. When IDF volunteer Josh Shapiro invites said war pig to be his running mate in 2028, will you still be insisting the Dems have a good shot? 1
Mike91 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: With Jeffries as the House Speaker? As if! That man is repulsive, and if the Dems had any sense, they'd throw him off a cliff, but they don't because they vote in lockstep with whatever that old Crypt Keeper-lookin'-ass ***** tells them to. You assume that the threat of Trump is this unifying force that will bring the country to rally around the Dems, but we literally just saw the opposite happen. The country unified to throw out Kamala Harris after she and the rest of the administration conspired to cover-up Biden's physical and mental decline. Trump has never been more popular than he is right now. Democrats haven't been this deep in the wilderness since they got btfo'd by Reagan. At some point, you've gotta just admit you were wrong, your party's moderate platform is a massive flop, and the whole idea of running as "Republicans! but slightly less bad!" isn't an inspiring message and has proven for almost a decade now to be a miserable failure of a strategy. The fact that the Dems gave one of the warmest standing ovations possible to one of the worst chickenhawk war pigs in American history yesterday should really start to give you pause. When IDF volunteer Josh Shapiro invites said war pig to be his running mate in 2028, will you still be insisting the Dems have a good shot? A lot of these dem bootlickers don't understand how toxic the democratic party brand is to a majority of Americans. They assume voters will come running back to them eventually even though a lot of voting patterns have remained the same since 2016. For the first time in decades there are now more registered republicans than democrats. You think that alone would tell them something. Unfortunately, it's probably going to take another embarrassing loss in 2028 before we see any change.
ClashAndBurn Posted January 4 Posted January 4 11 minutes ago, Mike91 said: A lot of these dem bootlickers don't understand how toxic the democratic party brand is to a majority of Americans. They assume voters will come running back to them eventually even though a lot of voting patterns have remained the same since 2016. For the first time in decades there are now more registered republicans than democrats. You think that alone would tell them something. Unfortunately, it's probably going to take another embarrassing loss in 2028 before we see any change. That's why I'm fully expecting them to double down on the absolute worst aspects of their strategies since Hillary Clinton lost. There will be a concerted effort to make sure the left feels unwelcome in the party. They want to be the party of the wealthy suburban white women so badly that they'll double down on throwing asylum seeking refugees under the bus while supporting the indentured servitude of H1Bs. I wouldn't say there's any change on the horizon. My guess is they'll also back down from abortion rights next. No point in pursuing that anymore when a national abortion ban is put in place that Democrats will legit have no path to ever repealing since the Senate is gone forever. And the threat of abortion rights being taken away certainly didn't save them for more than a weak midterm cycle anyway. Which might have been the worst possible outcome seeing as Biden interpreted that midterm as a win for him even though it was completely in spite of him and his failed leadership. 1
Marianah Adkins Posted January 4 Posted January 4 The Libtard Democrats are absolutely blinded by their own hype. The GOP literally gave us gifts to exploit (the immigrant/H-1B visa issue) and we have heard nothing but smugness contempt from libtards. At this point, they are secret GOP voters with the way they are fumbling everything this early on. The side effects of a failed campaign by the laughing unqualified VP lady I guess… 1
ClashAndBurn Posted January 4 Posted January 4 I mean, what else can you expect from the Dems at this point? They hate the left even more than they've ever hated Trump. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted January 4 Posted January 4 12 minutes ago, VOSS said: Another classic example of "Democrats need to just be Republicans" 3 2
Virgos Groove Posted January 4 Posted January 4 17 hours ago, Communion said: Like the amount of liberal "Elections Twitter" users who are just largely affluent European ****-posters who partake in US elections discourse "as a hobby" (). Framing Sanders as some right-winger or reactionary just because YOU feel entitled as an affluent French or Slavic twink to one day come to America because you feel like your upbringing and class should entitle you to it more than poorer people from the same country as you. I read this part and thought "okay, a lot of Euro libs on US election Twitter are upper class, but it's not fair to say it's a generalized thing. It's natural that people keep up with what happens in the world's largest superpower and there's a wide ideological spec- Touché, Communion. Touché. 1
CandyCoatedClouds Posted January 4 Posted January 4 So how well do we think Vance will work with congress in enacting the 2025 agenda? I'm just asking because I honestly don't think Trump will make it the next four years (I think his unhealthy lifestyle + plus old age will get him)and I think it'll happen within the next two years (at least, that's what the psychics keep saying) which means Vance will be president. I don't think he'll get much done honestly, he doesn't have charisma or charm and he doesn't have the ability to threaten the same way Trump does.
19SLAYty9 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 I've been thinking and the whole "we can never nominate a woman for the decade" thing is bs. Do you think in 2004 anyone thought the 2008 nominee would be a black man running on change and go on to win? I actually think the worse off that things get under Trump, the more likely a woman does win in 2028 3
If U Seek Amy Posted January 4 Posted January 4 36 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said: I've been thinking and the whole "we can never nominate a woman for the decade" thing is bs. Do you think in 2004 anyone thought the 2008 nominee would be a black man running on change and go on to win? I actually think the worse off that things get under Trump, the more likely a woman does win in 2028 Exactly my thoughts. As long as things go awfully, likely as they are based on Trump's record, if you run a woman again that is reasonably electable you can probably eek out a win barely just like Biden did in 2020 (and Trump in 2016 and 2024). I expect this trend of vibes making people flip parties each election to continue. Let the media flash how awful everything is again for 4 years to them and mood will change fast 1
VOSS Posted January 4 Posted January 4 4 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: Another classic example of "Democrats need to just be Republicans" In the present day Dems likely benefit more from voter ID restrictions. Since Republicans are constantly whining about it and using it to attack the Dems might as well just do it 1
Bhabylon Posted January 5 Posted January 5 What's going on in this country rn? All the terrorism, planes being shot down, and public violence recently has been scary to see. every day, there's another scary story
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