Cesar Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago what ever happened to this? is it still possible? especially given the last few days, with the way elon has had a hold on the government 1
ClashAndBurn Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago That's what Justice Dems were supposed to be and they folded. Only Tlaib held to the principles that got her elected. AOC capitulated, kissed the ring to try to assimilate, and got blown out of the water by the same institutions. I think, personally, it's too late. The wrecking ball needed to come six years ago, but progressives were scared of being labeled as Putin's puppets at the height of Russiagate hysteria. So they got a couple members elected and then did nothing with it. 1
Raspberries Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 7 hours ago, Communion said: Sister, I forgot you existed (hehe) until the random personal attack in the Ariana thread in celebria from you so I wanted to see where you've been since the election and it seems like you've vanished. I hope you're not doing the thing even the VP herself did of running away from politics. @Raspberries Both attacking the prophetess for ha warnings AND hiding in fear once reality hit to avoid facing the necessary postmortems. It's almost like some of us were seeing in real-life the cultural swing against Democrats as an unpopular brand. When I tell you we could not give less of a ****
Vermillion Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago I keep seeing this take on the left's equivalent of the Tea Party rising but for about 20 cultural, media, political, financial and sociological reasons, it ain't gonna happen in my lifetime. Unless there's a personality to unite factions around, it isn't happening. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Vermillion said: I keep seeing this take on the left's equivalent of the Tea Party rising but for about 20 cultural, media, political, financial and sociological reasons, it ain't gonna happen in my lifetime. Unless there's a personality to unite factions around, it isn't happening. Exactly. It was supposed to happen in 2018, but the Democratic establishment learned from the "mistakes" the Republicans have made since 2010, and the clear solution they've drawn has always been to marginalize any ascendant factions. Paint them as assets to foreign adversaries. Make them appear dangerous to the core values of the country so that party-faithfuls don't get curious and start to stray. The Democratic establishment is content with losing general elections. As long as they keep their primaries pure and untainted from leftist influence, they can keep their access to the donors and wealthy suburbanites they've worked so hard to coax away from the Republicans. 1
Virgos Groove Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) Looks like they're using the strategy they outlined in the America First program; threaten Ukraine with an aid cut-off, and threaten Russia with an insane ammount of aid for Ukraine, in the hopes both Putin and Zelenskyy will accept his peace deal. This war needs to end. The more it prolongs, the worse it'll be for Ukraine. And if he somehow secures a favorable deal for Kyiv, Ukrainians will be building statues of him and naming their children Donaltrump for the next 50 years. Edited 12 hours ago by Virgos Groove 1 1
ClashAndBurn Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said: Looks like they're using the strategy they outlined in the America First program; threaten Ukraine with an aid cut-off, and threaten Russia with an insane ammount of aid for Ukraine, in the hopes both Putin and Zelenskyy will accept his peace deal. This war needs to end. The more it prolongs, the worse it'll be for Ukraine. And if he somehow secures a favorable deal for Kyiv, Ukrainians will be building statues of him and naming their children Donaltrump for the next 50 years. Except it's never really been America First. Not for either party. It's primarily Israel First. Just for the Democrats, it's also Ukraine First, which allows their opposition to effectively (and not inaccurately) label them as America Last. 1
Virgos Groove Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 59 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Except it's never really been America First. Not for either party. It's primarily Israel First. Just for the Democrats, it's also Ukraine First, which allows their opposition to effectively (and not inaccurately) label them as America Last. Israel First and Ukraine First are America First - just not working class America. Israel is a puppet state upholding America's imperial interests in the region. And Ukraine is basically a stick to poke Russia with, with Biden using Ukrainians (and their rightful desire for sovereignty) as cannon fodder. The only reason Trump doesn't prioritize Ukraine is because he still believes Russia can be an ally against China's rise, with this rise being the reason so many liberals care about Taiwan and want to turn it into the location for Cuban Missile Crisis: This Time It's Chinese! America is not being used or fooled by (far less powerful) foreign governments. It is doing exactly what benefits its foreign policy interests. Edited 11 hours ago by Virgos Groove 1
Thuggin Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I AM SO SICK OF THIS JACKASS! NO ONE ELECTED YOU! He literally thinks he can just buy his way into being king of the world 1
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