ClashAndBurn Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Communion said: @nooniebao president of CAP even going "....y'all are getting a little too dirt-baggy... can y'all tone it down please...". That Adam Jentleson article that Favreau was praising is praising MGP and Jared Golden for pushing deregulation and is lamenting that Amy Klobuchar and Steve Bullock were overlooked in the 2020 primary They are ACTUALLY going to walk us into Republican vs. Republican-lite campaigns for the rest of eternity if they keep going with this appalling garbage.
Communion Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 20 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: That Adam Jentleson article that Favreau was praising is praising MGP and Jared Golden for pushing deregulation and is lamenting that Amy Klobuchar and Steve Bullock were overlooked in the 2020 primary oThey are ACTUALLY going to walk us into Republican vs. Republican-lite campaigns for the rest of eternity if they keep going with this appalling garbage. I'm gonna become the ******* Joker kjngfnbkfnfgjknbfng Edited 2 hours ago by Communion
Harrier Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, Communion said: Like I'm sorry but constant diatribes like this are effectively no different in its intended trolling than this: The saber-rattling by those deeply invested in stopping progressive politics has become tired. Every vestige of anti-left politics has failed. Neoliberals in 2016: Left-wing economic politics are bad because they do not sufficiently address racism and sexism Neoliberals in 2024: Left-wing economic politics are bad because they refuse to de-couple addressing the economy from supporting minorities the US voter does not want to support and for over-emphasizing addressing racism and sexism Left-wing politics is somehow both racist and too woke. Both factions of the corporate, neoliberal establishment and its supporters hate it, whether citing it as sidelining high-income business owners of color and thus doomed to fail or citing it as somehow the product of those who do not want to run on hating trans people or the homeless and thus doomed to fail with the average far-right American. "Heads I win, tails you lose". Guaranteeing healthcare like every other developed nation in the world is so doomed to fail that is must NEVER be tried EVER. I hate throwing in a pretentious Latin term but your endless reductio ad absurdum is so ******* annoying. Like when will you stop. At no point have I ever expressed that I don't want Americans to have healthcare. Its just an offensive thing to say and I'm right to get pissed off. You take random statements, pretend others are saying something that they're not, and argue against that - instead of actually taking points as they're made. You endlessly rag on me being Australian - I can see those edits sis - even though it's not actually relevant to the points I'm making. Easier to do that than actually engage with what i say, right? I don't know why I ever engage you since you are just out here to endlessly bash people over the head with your fixed, unchangeable worldview and you never take anything new on board. Never have you ever acknowledged you were wrong about something, and you never will. You are a running joke on this forum for good reason. Ciao
Communion Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 33 minutes ago, Harrier said: You are a running joke on this forum for good reason. Again, I think it's weird that someone is advocating for abandoning trans people and this is their post history: On 1/28/2023 at 7:55 PM, Harrier said: If the system was working properly you wouldn't have all these detransitioners coming out, or lots of people saying they didn't know transition would sterilise them. I don't have cases to pull out off the top of my head because this is just an ATRL thread but you're denying the reality we can all see if you think it's going perfectly. For me, it's part of a wider problem in America (and elsewhere) of overmedicalisation. Too many people are on prescriptions. On 1/28/2023 at 4:12 PM, Harrier said: Puberty blockers, surgery, and hormones are serious and have irreversible effects. Giving kids these options to make them 'more passable' as adults is questionable logic to me. I think it shouldn't be made illegal like this because there are kids for whom it's the right choice. But there are also kids that need time to figure themselves out before making permanent decisions that medicalize you for life. I do not find it important or necessary to hear out someone who will never be an American and who only engages to scold American progressives that we need to "accept most Americans are deeply conservative" while they themselves claw at and scream to cling onto their right-wing views on gender-affirming healthcare. When I pointed out that a 3% regret rate for transitioning is rare is medicine and that your claims of the harms over gender-affirming care verged on conspiratorial and anti-science, you lashed out and diverted to personal attacks, just like now in the quoted post. Why would I take claims of Americans being *inherently* right-wing from someone who contributes to and helps to perpetuate those very same right-wing narratives of misinformation based on only accepting what confirms their priors? There are diabetic Americans who die because they cannot afford their insulin. Being yelled at continuously by someone that 2% of the population are being "over-medicalized" and this is somehow an issue that should upend continued American life and somehow define elections because it confirms their priors is insane. I posted that I wish a TikTok video a congresswoman posted had tighter editing. In response, you unloaded whatever weird resentments you have for apparently progressives, trans people, and Americans onto said post. Still don't think one should do a prolong fade to black for video transitions! Edited 1 hour ago by Communion
Harrier Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Communion said: Again, I think it's weird that someone is advocating for abandoning trans people and this is their post history: I do not find it important or necessary to hear out someone who will never be an American and who only engages to scold American progressives that we need to "accept most Americans are deeply conservative" while they themselves claw at and scream to cling onto their right-wing views on gender-affirming healthcare. When I pointed out that a 3% regret rate for transitioning is rare is medicine and that your claims of the harms over gender-affirming care verged on conspiratorial and anti-science, you lashed out and diverted to personal attacks, just like now in the quoted post. Why would I take claims of Americans being *inherently* right-wing from someone who contributes to and helps to perpetuate those very same right-wing narratives of misinformation based on only accepting what confirms their priors? There are diabetic Americans who die because they cannot afford their insulin. Being yelled at continuously by someone that 2% of the population are being "over-medicalized" and this is somehow an issue that should upend continued American life and somehow define elections because it confirms their priors is insane. You harp on about this endlessly even though I have acknowledged I was wrong here. Something you're not capable of doing. So what now? None of this undermines my points about this year's election. You accuse me of personal attacks but I only bring up your reputation in response to your endless ad hominems bringing up my nationality. You've been wrong on many occasions yet im not some weird stalker who remembers what you posted nearly two years ago and goes back looking for it. Get a life.
Communion Posted 22 minutes ago Posted 22 minutes ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Harrier said: Something you're not capable of doing. Again, this goes back to the only engagement being scolding despite no actual investment or purpose for following American politics on your end. You're lashing out and scolding someone because every aspect of self-reflection and critical questioning has pushed them *further away* from your worldview and ideology. I was convinced to believe Hillary Clinton and her supporters desired to win and believed they could. I've been clear that such was wrong and it was wrong to eagerly encourage people vote for her. I was convinced and believed Fetterman's AIPAC money was just pandering and that there could be compromises between what a senator from Pennsylvania of all places views on foreign policy because it's not like it would matter in the bigger scheme. Israel's accelerated genocide proved that wrong and that purity tests are indeed good. It is because you don't have to actually *experience* living in America or being American that you don't realize that the very people you're dedicated to scolding "for always feeling right" continually compromised and bought into ideas promoted by the neoliberal world order you defend and which has only sent *my* country into a death spiral when they fail despite reassurance that this is the only possible way to win. *You* don't have to experience being a queer American and seeing corporate Democrats suddenly decide queer people are their enemy because they don't want to turn on Horizon Blue Cross/Blue Shield. 1 hour ago, Harrier said: So what now? idk, sis, all I did was comment on bad tiktok video editing! Here you go! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Australia Edited 19 minutes ago by Communion
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