on the line Posted Monday at 02:19 PM Posted Monday at 02:19 PM 5 minutes ago, Vermillion said: Never said it was. No one likes your venting here either, for the record. Lol, the bitterness.
Prisoner Posted Monday at 02:43 PM Posted Monday at 02:43 PM For better or worse, the people has elected donald trump. I hate it but at least there's some joy in knowing that everyone (even white people) who is not a richie rich person will suffer together with the normally affected communities. I really hope he actually go with this tariff plan and project 2025 so ALL the middle class who voted for him and ALL the andrew tate fanboys and gamers will suffer
Marianah Adkins Posted Monday at 02:46 PM Posted Monday at 02:46 PM I know the polling showed that its not a top issue but I feel like the Kamala they/them attack ads may have been effective against her after all. Not in terms of making her look like a pro trans agenda person but more of like creating an image of her being out of touch as it kinda insinuated that she cares more about liberal social issues rather than economic issues (I think someone pointed out in this thread the same conclusion). 3
anti-bitch Posted Monday at 02:51 PM Posted Monday at 02:51 PM 52 minutes ago, dabunique said: i was kinda worried about this too but i remember before da SC had ruled for it my state under Voldemort had said it was unconstitutional to deny gay marriages so it became legal here but if they were to reverse da SC i wonder if dat would reverse sumthin dat is already law in Florida I think a ballot measure for same-sex marriage could get over 60% votes in Florida pretty easily, if that's ever needed. There's so many rainbow people down there. Lol.
Armani? Posted Monday at 02:53 PM Posted Monday at 02:53 PM 2 minutes ago, anti-***** said: I think a ballot measure for same-sex marriage could get over 60% votes in Florida pretty easily, if that's ever needed. There's so many rainbow people down there. Lol. They can't even pass marijuana now 1 2
dabunique Posted Monday at 02:55 PM Posted Monday at 02:55 PM 3 minutes ago, anti-***** said: I think a ballot measure for same-sex marriage could get over 60% votes in Florida pretty easily, if that's ever needed. There's so many rainbow people down there. Lol. ma'am please medicinal marijuana passed with a 71% for recreational to only get 55% i don't trust this state especially with Panhandle Putin runnin da show 1 1
anti-bitch Posted Monday at 02:58 PM Posted Monday at 02:58 PM 1 minute ago, Armani? said: They can't even pass marijuana now But drugs are controversial still, even if "mari" is among the mildest. I'd argue that being gay is less so.
Communion Posted Monday at 03:03 PM Posted Monday at 03:03 PM 52 minutes ago, Vermillion said: This is EXACTLY the cultural gaslighting I'm talking about. I mean, I think this shows a kind of crossroads over how a class of high-income black consultants navigate this issue and whether their priorities are Democrats winning elections or remaining personally enriched by the DNC and party apparatus by fashioning themselves as representatives of working class black voters despite not being such themselves. Dana Bash is a Bush era Republican and so her framing should always be discounted, but it feels important to recognize how in 2020 this likely exchange would see some kind of dishonest framing by this same consultancy interest group. That in 2020 Sanders saying he doesn't see the big deal about going on Rogan's show to debate and promote his agenda and that, even though Sanders says to Bash he disagrees with many things Rogan believes, it'd be framed by a consultancy group as somehow empowering white supremacy and thus all left wing populist policies like Bernie promotes are actually inherently white supremacy and something the pro-capitalist neoliberao party should avoid. I don't think that kind of consultancy holds as much cache anymore. Even if just for that...the same people who had been demanding a Kamala Harris presidential run since 2019 were defending Harris trying to chase down a Rogan interview herself. Obviously the left must include all of the working class and any policies that ignore black working class voters would male the coalition collapse. But someone like Malaika Jabali's analysis seems more honest. The elephant in the room is the only people who are still trying to do the "Bernie So White" greivance politics (that at the time erased his large non-white support) are the small fringe whose theory of politics just failed. Black elite excellence did not bring black voters to the polls. Having a black sorority sister at the top of the ticket did not mean anything to most working black voters, with black turnout falling in the Rust Belt being pretty damming. Like should people really care if *re-reads* Tom Watson argues raising the minimum wage is whiteness if Bernie Sanders promotes it and somehow we should all think black voters rather have increased diverse opportunities for their crypto assets than having healthcare as a right? Matt Yglesias, David Shor and Will Stancil aren't the only ones who got the very presidential campaign they always wanted. Kamala Harris 2019 supporters and all the consultancy groups who have pushed her through now 2 failed presidential campaigns similarly got everything they wanted of elite black neoliberal excellence and it...simply didn't resonate. Are we just meant to then let them suck up the oxygen in the room with post-mortems of "well America is just sexist and racist in their soul" and Dems will never win another presidential election again? 4
Lil Mistee Posted Monday at 03:06 PM Posted Monday at 03:06 PM I'm in Florida. Gay marriage would probably get close to 55-58 but not 60 plus. Just how it is, lots of catholic latinos here mixed with the redneck middle part and panhandle. Did yall see aocs story? Pretty crazy… I'd post screenshots but on mobile. Will discuss this more when I'm 🏡 1 1
Bamboo Posted Monday at 03:13 PM Posted Monday at 03:13 PM My timeline is nothing but liberals saying the election was stolen and demanding a recount. I'm sorry but is it really that unbelievable? That the incumbent party lost in an era where every incumbent party is losing worldwide? Why did Republicans underperform down ballot why not give themselves a huge majority there too? Social media was a mistake. 1
Lil Mistee Posted Monday at 03:17 PM Posted Monday at 03:17 PM 6 minutes ago, Ghiles said: Haha thanks I was gonna post this later. But yes it is interesting.
Lil Mistee Posted Monday at 03:19 PM Posted Monday at 03:19 PM I think those aoc responses combined with things like Kim's town hall amongst others show the American electorate is anti establishment, anti status quo and anti our government as it is rn. They want something different, but also want to "go back to the good ole days" so it's a bit hard to gauge. But a start would be being blunt, open, honest and forthcoming and I hope dems can find a way to change their messaging.
Rotunda Posted Monday at 03:20 PM Posted Monday at 03:20 PM I'm trying to wait to tap back into politics until all the dust settles and the initial fingerpointing dies down. People are still in whatever stage of grief is associated with delusion and deflection. 2 2
Lil Mistee Posted Monday at 03:23 PM Posted Monday at 03:23 PM AOC also asked Trump voters where they get their news from out of genuine interest to see if it correlates with poll findings and they just keep responding to her with "stop acting like we're uninformed" or variations of that. lol they literally can't answer cuz their answer is Twitter.com alt right people or breitbart. It's so obvious … 2 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted Monday at 03:30 PM ATRL Moderator Posted Monday at 03:30 PM 1 minute ago, FameFatale said: It's worth noting that Tom Homan also served as Executive Associate Director of ICE under Barack Obama. 2
Ghiles Posted Monday at 03:31 PM Posted Monday at 03:31 PM (edited) The coconuts still rambling about the Green Party instead of doing self-reflection on why they didn't get those Green votes perfectly illustrates why they lost and might never win an election again Edited Monday at 03:32 PM by Ghiles 4
Lil Mistee Posted Monday at 03:37 PM Posted Monday at 03:37 PM 5 minutes ago, Ghiles said: The coconuts still rambling about the Green Party instead of doing self-reflection on why they didn't get those Green votes perfectly illustrates why they lost and might never win an election again Third party votes didn't matter this election unlike 2000 or 2016 lol.
Bloodflowers. Posted Monday at 03:40 PM Posted Monday at 03:40 PM 17 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said: I think those aoc responses combined with things like Kim's town hall amongst others show the American electorate is anti establishment, anti status quo and anti our government as it is rn. They want something different, but also want to "go back to the good ole days" so it's a bit hard to gauge. But a start would be being blunt, open, honest and forthcoming and I hope dems can find a way to change their messaging. Go back to the good old days are just wealthy TV news journalists 24/7 who want right-wing economy but virtue signaling about liberalism so they don't feel guilty for being privileged and feel like they are above everybody by being "educated" cause of college and hanging out with the famous elites 1 1
Lil Mistee Posted Monday at 03:52 PM Posted Monday at 03:52 PM Not Tim pool popping up multiple times in AOCS question of where do trump voters get their news from. Oh it's bad
GhostBox Posted Monday at 04:05 PM Posted Monday at 04:05 PM Seeing some on the left bitching about student loans again 💀 Yall aren't gonna see anything good happening with students loans for 4 years or more. 2 1 1
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