news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[Thickorita]

"Centrism Fan Acct" 

[teresaguidice]

18 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

 

meanwhile 

 

looks like some people just punished themselves 💀

 

the narrative consistency of you learning nothing from this election 

[GraceRandolph]

1 minute ago, teresaguidice said:

the narrative consistency of you learning nothing from this election 

Honestly the Democratic base needs to stop listening to these Ivy League neolibs on Twitter. They completely failed 

[Bears01]

4 minutes ago, Thuggin said:

Was talking to my cousin about the election (gay, voted for Trump 3x, very politically unengaged) and yeah I need to re-emphasize just how much Democrats overestimate how educated Americans are

 

In essence, Americans are children and Trump is over here with a megaphone announcing "No homework!" to many cheers while Dems are reciting convoluted, means tested policy that doesn't swing a single vote. All the people who would benefit from those policies like homebuyers' assistance do not care or don't hear the message. Every person I know who's barely paying attention voted Trump because idk vibes.

 

Democrats have got to recapture the cultural zeitgeist somehow. They need to become the party of sex and rock and roll again. Dems already win with people who are paying close attention to the news. Simply driving turnout doesn't help them anymore, and I've been screaming that ever since Democrats became the more college educated party.

This is true, and I completely agree, 

 

Like I've said multiple times, everyone I know outside of my mom, sister aunt cousin and I are all Trump supporters. All of them. Everyone else in our extended family too. I have one friend who lives 2 hours away who isn't too, but everyone else is. 
 

And they are all dumb as a box of rocks. My one friend I was with last night couldn't even say Kamala's name right, he kept calling her Camilla. And he's got degrees 

[modeblock]

3 hours ago, Vermillion said:

The bigotry of Latino men, likely.

 

I hate that it feels like no one's willing to budge to take any lessons from this, cultural or economic  

 

That goes for both progressives AND liberals  

I'm not sure that bigotry of latino men is an important lesson to take from this election. Or at least, it's unhelpful to draw the conclusion that misogyny and transphobia, for example, are rampant enough issues to prevent them from voting for a woman. Does the woman have to try 2x as hard as a male counterpart? Most likely, yes. But latino men are not lost to bigotry, at least those in South Texas don't seem to be.

Edited Monday at 01:32 AM by modeblock

[cloudbusting]

all the post-mortem analysis rubbing salt and lime into the wound I fear

 

like it truly went from worse to worser

 

[Cesar]

10 minutes ago, Thickorita said:

"Centrism Fan Acct" 

Some of these propaganda pages be funny af to read

 

 

Like this one

 

Free thinker

Patriot

Anti-Woke

 

 

[Communion]

Had the displeasure of seeing Matt Yglesias post the words "Bernie was anti-woke in 2016" so just felt the need to share this. 

 

(This poor man has been really screaming "YOU CARE MORE ABOUT HATING GAY PEOPLE THAN MAKING A LIVING???" for over 20 years nfdvjkd :[ )

 

 

Edited Monday at 01:45 AM by Communion

[GraceRandolph]

America has a problem with anti-intellectual and lowkey anti-curiosity culture. I don't know how we fight something pervasive like that. I don't want to put all the blame on voters but it is what it is. 

[Cruel Summer]

10 minutes ago, Communion said:

Had the displeasure of seeing Matt Yglesias post the words "Bernie was anti-woke in 2016" so just felt the need to share this. 

 

(This poor man has been really screaming "YOU CARE MORE ABOUT HATING GAY PEOPLE THAN MAKING A LIVING???" for over 20 years nfdvjkd :[ )

 

 

Bernie being more progressive 20 years ago speaking to a random classroom than any Democratic Party nominee or platform in the SIX Presidential election cycles since 

[GhostBox]

I've stated many times here that the American voting population are just dumb. I'm happy too see others here finally seeing that as well 🤷

[Thuggin]

23 minutes ago, Bears01 said:

This is true, and I completely agree, 

 

Like I've said multiple times, everyone I know outside of my mom, sister aunt cousin and I are all Trump supporters. All of them. Everyone else in our extended family too. I have one friend who lives 2 hours away who isn't too, but everyone else is. 
 

And they are all dumb as a box of rocks. My one friend I was with last night couldn't even say Kamala's name right, he kept calling her Camilla. And he's got degrees 

I have a huge extended family of many dozens of aunts, uncles, cousins, plus my immediate family and out of all of us I think there are four of us who voted for Kamala rather than Trump  and of that four, my brother was planning on voting Trump and only switched at the last second but still voted Republican all down ballot.

 

The gays in my circle are the only other people I know who were voting Kamala, but tbh some of them don't even seem very political so I also wouldn't be surprised if a good number of them didn't vote at all.

 

Trump and Republicans have a chokehold on people who aren't very political but through the sheer cultural figure that Trump is he motivates them to vote somehow. Like I was surprised that even my one brother who didn't vote in 2020 was hardcore rooting for Trump this year and made it to vote.

 

When I pressed my gay cousin about the conservative Supreme Court and what they could do, he said if they overturn gay marriage he'll cross that bridge when they get there and besides, gay marriage was only "shoved through the courts" not too long ago so if it becomes illegal again he's maybe fine with letting marriage be a heterosexual thing anyway and maybe gays can just have something else with the same legal benefits 

[midnightdawn]

If Whitmer was the nominee Michigan would have been on lock, the fracking issue wouldn't have been there in Penn, plus she could have been separated from Biden and not had the trans attack ads.

[Communion]

IM GONNA ******* SCREAM FJDJDJD ??????? @Vermillion @ClashAndBurn

 

(For those who don't know, Chuck Rocha....was the Latino Outreach director for the Bernie 2020 campaign dddd)

 

 

 

 

[cloudbusting]

on the… bright-ish side of all this, last week finally pushed me to look into dual citizenship stuff. did not realize i can apply for it since my mom is still a mexican citizen, so if i can get it done in time it'll be a cute backup plan 

 

[GraceRandolph]

Honestly we should push an anarcho-communist vegan in 2028. 

[Adrian14]

 Bernie can still run in 2028
 

[TROPICUM]

2 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

on the… bright-ish side of all this, last week finally pushed me to look into dual citizenship stuff. did not realize i can apply for it since my mom is still a mexican citizen, so if i can get it done in time it'll be a cute backup plan 

 

 

 

[BOOMBAYAH]

I just watched Nancy Pelosi's documentary, and the January 6th segment was truly horrifying. I feel like that day has been memory-holed by most Americans because even if Trump's 2024 campaign were absolutely flawless, he should never have been allowed to run again based on that day alone. What is the point of a so-called democracy and a country of law and order if the President can never be criminally punished or politically excommunicated?

 

 

I understand that much of the post-election discourse has focused on how Democrats should engage with MAGA Republicans in a way that doesn't demean them, aiming to draw them out of conspiracy theories and rehabilitate them. But how do you even begin to do this? In reality, queer, minority, and progressive citizens are likely the ones who will be pushed under the bus over the next four years to appease these groups. Many moderate and neoliberal Democrats are criticizing progressives for saying that a big reason for their loss is because the country is inherently racist, sexist, and homophobic, calling this critique counterproductive/demeaning. But this is quite literally the truth, and to reach these voters, Democrats will likely have to compromise the rights of minority and oppressed groups. We've seen this before, for example, when someone like Obama only endorsed gay rights near the very end of his presidency.

Edited Monday at 02:05 AM by BOOMBAYAH

[Thuggin]

People today have seen huge transformative cultural change in their lifetimes but not much positive economic change. And everyone is nostalgic for the past, whether that be an I Love Lucy fairytale of the 1950s, their own childhoods when everything seemed simpler, or just pre-Covid times when gas was cheaper. Most voters do not feel like their lives are radically changed for the better under Democratic leadership. These marginal improvements can be transformative over a period of years, but it's hard to convince voters that when they're only barely paying attention and caught up in day to day bills. They've lost the ability to even imagine bigger. Trump and Republicans promise super simple fixes. "Ban transgenderism!" "Well that makes sense! Life was better before I had even heard of this trans stuff! Surely that must be the problem!"

[GraceRandolph]

The fact that Sky Ferreira might actually release Masochism before the US elects a woman president. 
 

[Armani?]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna178899

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Harris showed minimal losses among Black men, but analysts say she should have won more

The national exit poll shows 78% of Black men selected Harris, down 2 points from the last election.

 

For one Black pollster, the reasons behind Harris's performance are not complicated. Alvin Tillery, a professor of political science at Northwestern University and founder of the super PAC Alliance For Black Equity, said the Harris campaign used failed strategies to engage Black men, "even after all the talk about how critical it was to get their vote."

 

"It was political malpractice," Tillery said.

Harris introduced an Opportunity Agenda for Black Men, outlining what her administration would do to support that voting constituency that seemed movable. That move gained her 10 points, to 71%, in the national polls his organization conducted two weeks before the election, Tillery said.

 

But that effort was one of the few that addressed Black men directly, he added.

"She needed 83-84% of the Black male vote," he told NBC News. He said his organization had been raising concerns that Democrats needed to pick up more Black men to replicate 2020. "The reality is this should not come as a surprise to anyone.

 

They were warned repeatedly throughout the year that they were not doing enough with the Black male segment. It was great to see her energy in the last two weeks, but it needed to come earlier and needed to be more targeted with digital ad spending.""Black men did nothing wrong in this election," Tillery said.

 

"That's important. The Democrats failed to message to them by running their candidate as a tough-on-crime prosecutor, which, frankly, turned a lot of the Black men off. And then they didn't give them anything on the other side to scare the hell out of them about Donald Trump. And that is a recipe for softer turnout and a higher vote share for Trump."

 

[Armani?]

The way she probably would have done nothing whatsover if Obama didn't do that embarrassing lecture

[anti-bitch]

2 hours ago, Blankspace2010 said:

 Democrats are corrupted! No wonder so many flock to republicans. 

As if Republicans are not. But yeah, I get that voters are trying to find a new "home" in a way.

[Relampago.]

13 minutes ago, Communion said:

IM GONNA ******* SCREAM FJDJDJD ??????? @Vermillion @ClashAndBurn

 

(For those who don't know, Chuck Rocha....was the Latino Outreach director for the Bernie 2020 campaign dddd)

 

 

 

 

…Well my entire mom's side of the family split their tickets and voted Trump-Gallego (they said they connected with Gallego's backstory a lot and felt his campaign made him more trustworthy than Lake's)

 

So they're doing something right for sure