ClashAndBurn Posted Sunday at 09:17 PM Posted Sunday at 09:17 PM Primarying Hochul will do nothing. She's not going anywhere because Democrats are suckers, but she's certainly going to blame the process for weakening her if she loses in the general. Unironically I think the other lesson Democrats will take from Harris losing is "always stick with incumbents; never rock the boat" 2
Armani? Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM Why is the AP Votecast survey so different than the main exit poll? Will be glad when Pew & Catalist averages it out 1
Pepo Posted Sunday at 09:29 PM Posted Sunday at 09:29 PM Guys, I need someone to enlighten me. How is it possible that Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan voted blue for the Senate but did the opposite for the presidential election? Even Arizona is looking blueish for the Senate now. Uhm... 1 1
Vermillion Posted Sunday at 09:31 PM Posted Sunday at 09:31 PM Just now, Pepo said: Guys, I need someone to enlighten me. How is it possible that Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan voted blue for the Senate but did the opposite for the presidential election? Even Arizona is looking blueish for the Senate now. Uhm... Ticket splitting and leaving the rest of the ballot blank other than Prez. The opposite dynamic to the latter lost Hillary Michigan.
Vermillion Posted Sunday at 09:34 PM Posted Sunday at 09:34 PM Oh GOD it's already starting. Beto all over again
ClashAndBurn Posted Sunday at 09:35 PM Posted Sunday at 09:35 PM Kamala Harris: "we will follow the law on transgender health care." Donald Trump: "trans people will no longer legally be allowed to exist." Cant wait for Democrats to "follow the law" on this one. Wonder how many Representatives and Senators will crossover on this one. My guess is Slotkin, Peters, Reed, King, Coons, Ossoff, Warnock, Shaheen, Hassan, Gallego, and Kelly in the Senate MGP, Golden, Moulton, Cuellar in the House at a baseline, with a lot more Blue Dogs rallied by Gottheimer and co. 4 1
Lightbringer007 Posted Sunday at 09:40 PM Posted Sunday at 09:40 PM 11 minutes ago, Vermillion said: good, more women should follow suit
Lil Mistee Posted Sunday at 09:40 PM Posted Sunday at 09:40 PM Not my entire maga trump coworker squad saying if it was Bernie vs trump they'd vote for Bernie despite him "being a socialist"…. Politics are so weird like how are you gonna say that and vote for Trump. I asked and they said it's cuz Bernie "tells it like it is" and isn't an empty suit… the democratic party needs to put someone like him in place 3 1
Vermillion Posted Sunday at 09:44 PM Posted Sunday at 09:44 PM DeSantis' psychotic press secretary is boosting Shapiro here. If that's not a sign of an instant base turn-off I don't know what is…… 1
family.guy123 Posted Sunday at 09:45 PM Posted Sunday at 09:45 PM 17 minutes ago, Vermillion said: The ellipses make it sound like an ATRLer
Vroom Vroom Posted Sunday at 09:45 PM Posted Sunday at 09:45 PM 33 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: The importance of this is overstated. Robinson was a uniquely bad candidate who ran a campaign that was FAR worse than Trump. Slotkin, Rosen, and Gallego also came very close to losing, and polling was always WAY better for them than it was for Kamala (especially in Arizona), yet there are always many voters vote only for President and leave everything else blank in EVERY election. They got extremely lucky. Luck is the residue of design. The explanation for a dem win can't always be luck. Trumpism is all about flawed candidates building a cult of personalities. They win Republican primaries easily and then struggle in general elections (in swing states). If republicans nominate a candidate who is similar to Trump, but not Trump, Democrats might "get lucky" again. But, the republicans seem hyper aware of this. They are grooming Vance to be Trumpism Lite. He might not even get the nomination, in recent history Republican vice presidents have not faired well in getting nominated by their party (Quayle, Cheney, Pence), unlike democrats who almost always nominate vice presidents. Hawley, Cruz and DeSantis are already preparing their best Trump impressions 2
ClashAndBurn Posted Sunday at 09:45 PM Posted Sunday at 09:45 PM 2 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said: Not my entire maga trump coworker squad saying if it was Bernie vs trump they'd vote for Bernie despite him "being a socialist"…. Politics are so weird like how are you gonna say that and vote for Trump. I asked and they said it's cuz Bernie "tells it like it is" and isn't an empty suit… the democratic party needs to put someone like him in place There isn't really anyone like Bernie that still exists in politics. They all got pushed out in favor of Obama clones running on Bill Clinton-esque Third Way bullshit 1 1
Lil Mistee Posted Sunday at 09:46 PM Posted Sunday at 09:46 PM Just now, ClashAndBurn said: There isn't really anyone like Bernie that still exists in politics. They all got pushed out in favor of Obama clones running on Bill Clinton-esque Third Way bullshit We must prime beshear… 1
Armani? Posted Sunday at 09:46 PM Posted Sunday at 09:46 PM 3 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said: Not my entire maga trump coworker squad saying if it was Bernie vs trump they'd vote for Bernie despite him "being a socialist"…. Politics are so weird like how are you gonna say that and vote for Trump. I asked and they said it's cuz Bernie "tells it like it is" and isn't an empty suit… the democratic party needs to put someone like him in place Also a n**** I know of is like that. He's a magat, but just conversing with him he said he liked Bernie & would vote for him I was confused, because their ideologically the opposite
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