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[MAKSIM]

12 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

I agree with the premise that an open primary would have been better even on a tight timeline, but:

 

1) I'm concerned that on such a tight timeline there would be no real apparatus for primary elections and it would really just be a contested convention, so no voters would actually contribute to the nomination, and

 

2) I must reject any document that implies anything positive about Pete's polling

 

 

The point is less about the selection process, but more that if you were going to boot Biden from the ticket due to his unfavorables, then running Harris is the next worst option. I believe a generic D, whether it's Pete, Gretchen, Shapiro, does better than Kamala in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania and it's why every generic D senator did better than Kamala in every swing state. 

 

 

People were willing to vote for Democrats, even centrist ones like Slotkin, but Harris was too tied to Biden as his sitting VP. 

Edited Saturday at 07:57 PM by MAKSIM

[Lightbringer007]

oh they gagged him badly

 

 

 

[Relampago.]

2 minutes ago, Lightbringer007 said:

so weird that at one point pelosi was an avid bernie fan ... what the hell happened

 

 

 

Bernie wasn't fully kissing the ring and these politicians put egos above all else  

[Vermillion]

 

[Cruel Summer]

1 minute ago, Lightbringer007 said:

so weird that at one point pelosi was an avid bernie fan ... what the hell happened

 

 

 

I think the issue with Pelosi right now is that the comments she made are still coming from an emotional place, and I think she reacted emotionally to Bernie's recent statement because she's struggling to come to terms with the fact that her perception of her party is now essentially an out of touch one. She's not a stupid person - she's still laser sharp - so she definitely understands what Bernie's appeal is, whatever other feelings she may have about him.

[Redstreak]

 

[Cruel Summer]

2 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

The point is less about the selection process, but more that if you were going to boot Biden from the ticket due to his unfavorables, then running Harris is the next worst option. I believe a generic D, whether it's Pete, Gretchen, Shapiro, does better than Kamala in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania and it's why every generic D senator did better than Kamala in every swing state. 

 

I mean… you may in fact have a point with that part 

 

[family.guy123]

10 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

I've been saying, and people are gonna hate this, we really need to bring "funny" racist/misogynistic/homophobic etc." jokes. 
 

We gotta make these people feel dumb in a lighthearted way so they stop. They need to be made fun of in the same way "attack helicopter!" jokes started to take over. 

 

I don't really care if it makes people feel bad, then we can tell them to shut the **** up and take a joke like we were told for years now.

+1. The best thing to do when you hear a bad joke is to not laugh

[Lightbringer007]

 

 

[Armani?]

[Lightbringer007]

3 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

I think the issue with Pelosi right now is that the comments she made are still coming from an emotional place, and I think she reacted emotionally to Bernie's recent statement because she's struggling to come to terms with the fact that her perception of her party is now essentially an out of touch one. She's not a stupid person - she's still laser sharp - so she definitely understands what Bernie's appeal is, whatever other feelings she may have about him.

they need to make it up on the remix

[Vermillion]

1 minute ago, Redstreak said:

 

I disagree with some of Fukuyama's takes from the past but he's a brilliant writer. This is a solid piece.

[Lightbringer007]

this is so-

 

 

 

[Vermillion]

ON-topic for various reasons

 

[VOSS]

15 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

I think the issue with Pelosi right now is that the comments she made are still coming from an emotional place, and I think she reacted emotionally to Bernie's recent statement because she's struggling to come to terms with the fact that her perception of her party is now essentially an out of touch one. She's not a stupid person - she's still laser sharp - so she definitely understands what Bernie's appeal is, whatever other feelings she may have about him.

I think we should be looking to candidates who outperformed Kamala in this election for the path forward, not those who underperformed like Bernie.

[Thuggin]

12 minutes ago, Armani? said:

Texas has flirted with the idea of flipping but it will probably only continue to reverse course, especially with the Republican trifecta there doing everything in their power to drive liberals out and people fleeing blue states in. And Latinos moving to the Republican Party

 

[Kylizzle]

Not a single soul outside of liberals care that Trump is a convicted felon. When will we learn.

 

[Cruel Summer]

2 minutes ago, VOSS said:

I think we should be looking to candidates who outperformed Kamala in this election for the path forward, not those who underperformed like Bernie.

Do you have a detailed understanding of Vermont politics? Do you understand the concerns, wants, and needs of the everyday working class Vermont voter? Can you please explain to me, in depth and drawing on the "yes" answers you presumably gave above, why seizing on a 1.1% difference when both are above 60% is helpful? Are you concerned with a winning message and platform and ensuring we don't lose the working class to Trump and the Republicans for a generation, or is this just a way to try to dunk on a guy who is, unless you can really explain otherwise, exactly right in his assessment of what happened?

[ClashAndBurn]

21 minutes ago, Armani? said:

Not only that, but New York is closer to becoming a red state thanks to the epic failures of Andrew Cuomo, Joe Biden, Kathy Hochul, and Eric Adams.

 

 

But the girlies here can't accept that, and are pushing fantasies about AOC running for president when she has no path to even winning a statewide race in NEW YORK, and wouldn't even win a mayoral race in NYC

 

Edited Saturday at 08:20 PM by ClashAndBurn

[Virgos Groove]

 

So, when does the Democratic Great Purge begin and when are these capital-L losers exiled into Belgium or whatever?

 

[Thuggin]

1 minute ago, Cruel Summer said:

Do you have a detailed understanding of Vermont politics? Do you understand the concerns, wants, and needs of the everyday working class Vermont voter? Can you please explain to me, in depth and drawing on the "yes" answers you presumably gave above, why seizing on a 1.1% difference when both are above 60% is helpful? Are you concerned with a winning message and platform and ensuring we don't lose the working class to Trump and the Republicans for a generation, or is this just a way to try to dunk on a guy who is, unless you can really explain otherwise, exactly right in his assessment of what happened?

Also the Independent in the race got 2.2 percent there. And Vermonters are much more willing to vote Republican on the rest of the ballot than top of the ticket, like hello their Republican governor swept the state, like tell me you know nothing about Vermont politics

[Breathe On Moi]

idk if it's just me or my paranoia, but it's so easy to spot trumpies now, going out to the grocery store today (in FL) and you can just tell by their American flags on their cars, and the crap they wear, all happy. I hate them.

[Armani?]

Tim Waltz would be a great choice tbh, he's just associated with Kamala/Biden now

 

[MusicLoverDude]

31 minutes ago, Lightbringer007 said:

oh they gagged him badly

 

 

 

The irony in him saying that is that I'm pretty sure if a gay man grabbed him by the dick or ass (since his commentary was similar to "grab him by the *****"), he'd claim sexual assault or harassment. 

[Thuggin]

Y'all better be nice to Bernie. Vermont might be our only blue state come Vance's Reagan landslide in 2028