Thuggin Posted Saturday at 07:16 PM Posted Saturday at 07:16 PM 19 minutes ago, Vermillion said: ย Yeah this is why I said a couple weeks ago that "you don't have to tell your husband" and assuming shy Harris voting wives were being undercounted in the polls was all liberal cope ย More women than not simply agree with their husbands or if they don't agree with their husbands they often will just want to stay out of the drama and keep the peace, whether that means voting Trump or just not voting at all. My brother is MAGA and his girlfriend would've voted Kamala if she had to choose, but she didn't want to be put in the position where she had to choose. Women don't want to have to lie to their husbands, and the ads made it seem like Democrats were either infantilizing women or wanting to come between them and their marriages. 1 3
Armani? Posted Saturday at 07:18 PM Posted Saturday at 07:18 PM 2 minutes ago, Ghiles said: ย Yeah, he would have won a death blow to the entire country with Republican supermajorities
ClashAndBurn Posted Saturday at 07:20 PM Posted Saturday at 07:20 PM 8 minutes ago, RihRihGirrrl said: I have a theory that Ann blew their coverย ย I have a theory that Ann is just washed up and needs to retire. Every other pollster that was accused of herding was correct. Every poll that showed Trump ahead nationally was disregarded as fake by everyone here except for me. ย 1
Lightbringer007 Posted Saturday at 07:21 PM Posted Saturday at 07:21 PM Just now, ClashAndBurn said: I have a theory that Ann is just washed up and needs to retire. Every other pollster that was accused of herding was correct. Every poll that showed Trump ahead nationally was disregarded as fake by everyone here except for me. ย I doubt thats gonna happen ... 2
Vermillion Posted Saturday at 07:26 PM Posted Saturday at 07:26 PM ย Quote That list includes avowed Christian nationalists, a notorious racist, a PragerU employee, a homocon reportedly fired by the GOP for filming himself having sex at their office and posting it on Craigslist, a bewigged nutbag who says God punished NYC with an earthquake, and a podcaster literally paid by the Kremlin. How can Scott lose? ย ย X ย
Armani? Posted Saturday at 07:26 PM Posted Saturday at 07:26 PM 6 minutes ago, Lightbringer007 said: I doubt thats gonna happen ... Yeah, we underestimated how dumb the median voter is + overestimated fundamentals ย I could see Trump winning the popular vote against Biden just because it was that bad, and similar to how he beat Kamala. But in reality it was at least a +5 lead nationwide 1
Thuggin Posted Saturday at 07:32 PM Posted Saturday at 07:32 PM It would be somewhat easier to swallow if he at least doesn't break 50% ย 2
MAKSIM Posted Saturday at 07:32 PM Posted Saturday at 07:32 PM (edited) https://puck.news/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SUNDAY_Post-Debate_Landscape_2024_06_30__1_-1.pdf ย ย Interesting data from late June, early July that reaffirms even a rushed open primary would have been better than running either Biden or Harris. Whitmer/Buttigieg both overperformed Biden and Harris in polling, especially in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.ย ย Biden was clearly the worst candidate that could've run in 2024, but Harris was clearly the second worst. Any other Dem would at least have been unleashed to say how they would be different from Biden, but Harris had too much deference to Biden as a thank you for anointing her and bypassing the open primary.ย Edited Saturday at 07:33 PM by MAKSIM 1
Vroom Vroom Posted Saturday at 07:38 PM Posted Saturday at 07:38 PM 1 hour ago, Tovitov said: Again, really looking forward to the 2028 primaries. ย We're all gonna hate each otherย ย ย Reveal hidden contents If the servers survive till thenย ย It is going to be a mess. Pritzker, Newsom, and Shapiro are nightmare fuel.ย I'm rooting for Whitmer for now, but I'm not sure she is ready. She has time to work on her public speaking skills.ย ย I wonder if AOC will have her moment. She has became the face of the progressive wing of the party. It was interesting that Kamala chose AOC to campaign with her in the final weeks of the election instead of Bernie. It might be better for her to run for Schumer's senate seat in 2028, since he'll probably retire ย 3 1
anastaciabby Posted Saturday at 07:38 PM Posted Saturday at 07:38 PM 4 minutes ago, MAKSIM said: https://puck.news/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SUNDAY_Post-Debate_Landscape_2024_06_30__1_-1.pdf ย ย Interesting data from late June, early July that reaffirms even a rushed open primary would have been better than running either Biden or Harris. Whitmer/Buttigieg both overperformed Biden and Harris in polling, especially in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.ย ย Biden was clearly the worst candidate that could've run in 2024, but Harris was clearly the second worst. Any other Dem would at least have been unleashed to say how they would be different from Biden, but Harris had too much deference to Biden as a thank you for anointing her and bypassing the open primary.ย You really think anyone with 2 months time would've won? especially with how hated the party was from years of stupidity?
Thuggin Posted Saturday at 07:39 PM Posted Saturday at 07:39 PM Time to bring back a snarky liberal new new anti-theist Internet movement that just constantly batters the religious right. No moralizing, no raising voices, no finger wagging, no tears, just clowning the right and highlighting their hypocrisy, whether they be Christian, Muslim, white, Latino, black, whatever. ย 6 2
Cruel Summer Posted Saturday at 07:43 PM Posted Saturday at 07:43 PM 6 minutes ago, MAKSIM said: https://puck.news/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SUNDAY_Post-Debate_Landscape_2024_06_30__1_-1.pdf ย ย Interesting data from late June, early July that reaffirms even a rushed open primary would have been better than running either Biden or Harris. Whitmer/Buttigieg both overperformed Biden and Harris in polling, especially in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.ย ย Biden was clearly the worst candidate that could've run in 2024, but Harris was clearly the second worst. Any other Dem would at least have been unleashed to say how they would be different from Biden, but Harris had too much deference to Biden as a thank you for anointing her and bypassing the open primary.ย I agree with the premise that an open primary would have been better even on a tight timeline, but: ย 1) I'm concerned that on such a tight timeline there would be no real apparatus for primary elections and it would really just be a contested convention, so no voters would actually contribute to the nomination, and ย 2) I must reject any document that implies anything positive about Pete's polling ย ย 1
Relampago. Posted Saturday at 07:46 PM Posted Saturday at 07:46 PM 3 minutes ago, Thuggin said: Time to bring back a snarky liberal new new anti-theist Internet movement that just constantly batters the religious right. No moralizing, no raising voices, no finger wagging, no tears, just clowning the right and highlighting their hypocrisy, whether they be Christian, Muslim, white, Latino, black, whatever. ย I've been saying, and people are gonna hate this, we really need to bring "funny" racist/misogynistic/homophobic etc." jokes.ย ย We gotta make these people feel dumb in a lighthearted way so they stop. They need to be made fun of in the same way "attack helicopter!" jokes started to take over.ย ย I don't really care if it makes people feel bad, then we can tell them to shut the **** up and take a joke like we were told for years now. 3
MAKSIM Posted Saturday at 07:47 PM Posted Saturday at 07:47 PM 6 minutes ago, anastaciabby said: You really think anyone with 2 months time would've won? especially with how hated the party was from years of stupidity? yes, Kamala could never escape that she was Biden's second in command and his active VP. It put her in terrible spots where she couldn't contradict anything the Biden administration was doing. Any other democrat would have been able to say "I will do things differently than Biden".ย ย You see it in the split ticket voting that was done. The dem party won basically every statewide race in North Carolina, the Senate seat in Wisconsin the Senate seat in Michigan, etc. These voters were willing to vote Dem and it would have been a better gamble to try with less national name recognition than with someone that is tied so closely to Biden. 1
Mariah4life Posted Saturday at 07:49 PM Posted Saturday at 07:49 PM 156.5 million votes. that's impressive! it almost matches the 2020 election and this is not even covid time. I'm so annoyed with people saying we lost 20 million votes when we barely finished counting the votes The issue is not democrats now showing up, it's the fact that many people flipped to donald. 1+ 1 = 2 ย 1
Lightbringer007 Posted Saturday at 07:51 PM Posted Saturday at 07:51 PM so weird that at one point pelosi was an avid bernie fan ... what the hell happened ย ย ย 1
Virgos Groove Posted Saturday at 07:51 PM Posted Saturday at 07:51 PM 33 minutes ago, Ghiles said: ย If they weren't geopolitical enemies, Bidenistas and Chavistas would be best friends. In this essay, I will... ย
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