news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[Redstreak]

1 hour ago, Harrier said:

If Trump permanently wins over Muslim voters after securing a ceasefire he deserves it I'm doubtful that he will, but given Bibi does like him more and the Iranians are definitely more scared of him, it is not outside the realm of possibility. And even if it's overly favourable to Israel, I'll still be the first to give credit where credit is due 

 

If the anti war **** ends up being real and he moves both that and Ukraine with deals that overly favour Russia and Israel... is that a net good? I know I'm a pansy pacifist that hates violence so maybe I'm off base there. As long as that doesn't give China queue to attack Taiwan ig.

I mean anything can happen but unfortunately Trump usually listens to his highest bidder

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/miriam-adelson-gives-100-million-to-trump-campaign-making-good-on-reported-pledge/amp/

[Communion]

1 hour ago, Vermillion said:

 

....this is the priority right now?

[Redstreak]

39 minutes ago, Thuggin said:

My family is convinced Trump already made the economy better because stocks surged after Trump won

 

Ask if they were better four years ago, and then show them the stock market then vs now

[Wicked]

 

[Vermillion]

 

[HausOfPunk]

54 minutes ago, shimind said:

After Hillary and Kamala, I hope Democrats realise that women simply can't win elections on a democratic ticket. They better not nominate a female president candidate for atleast another 1000 years. only a woman on a republican ticket can even think of becoming a pres 

I genuinely believe that the vast majority of voters did not have any issues with Kamala being a woman. Being the VP for a deeply unpopular administration was her biggest disadvantage. If she wasn't tied to Biden, I think she could have won easily.

[Communion]

1 hour ago, MAKSIM said:

This is the wrong thinking. In 2004, the electorate wasn't thinking "we need an Obama." In 2012, the electorate wasn't thinking "we need a Trump." In 2016, the electorate wasn't thinking "we need Biden." So forth and so on. 
 

Obama and Trump are people that on their face would be seen as unelectable in the previous election cycles that they win. The lesson out of this election should not be we need to run someone like Obama or like Trump.

Not me oddly agreeing but in the sense that you can't pick and prime the next best candidate just a week later. 

 

The party itself can't pick and prep their next candidate cause the party doesn't know how to win elections. 

 

2016 saw the party get in line for Hillary - it was her time. Both electeds and many partisan Dem voters agreed. It wasn't until 2015 when a largely unknown independent from Vermont registered to be a Democrat and started screaming about how the beloved incumbent was actually ignoring mass suffering and it became widely popular amongst a growing set of voters that it looked like Clinton was a poor choice. 

[MAKSIM]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

Not me oddly agreeing but in the sense that you can't pick and prime the next best candidate just a week later. 

 

The party itself can't pick and prep their next candidate cause the party doesn't know how to win elections. 

 

2016 saw the party get in line for Hillary - it was her time. Both electeds and many partisan Dem voters agreed. It wasn't until 2015 when a largely unknown independent from Vermont registered to be a Democrat and started screaming about how the beloved incumbent was actually ignoring mass suffering and it became widely popular amongst a growing set of voters that it looked like Clinton was a poor choice. 

Exactly, the best thing that could happen to the party is a competitive primary process in 2028 that goes through swing states (NOT South Carolina, first three primaries should be something like New Hampshire, Wisconsin/Michigan, Arizona) and without 80 year old party figures putting the thumb on the scale. 

 

[Armani?]

32 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

yeah. When your youth outreach is being helmed by a loser like Harry Sisson, you should honestly know you're cooked already

[dancingqueen]

5 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

Exactly, the best thing that could happen to the party is a competitive primary process in 2028 that goes through swing states (NOT South Carolina, first three primaries should be something like New Hampshire, Wisconsin/Michigan, Arizona) and without 80 year old party figures putting the thumb on the scale. 

 

Replace South Carolina with Georgia. One of the few blue increases in a red wave election. 

 

[Ms. Togekiss]

Gavin's team is clearly behind the entire discourse about him on Twitter. It's not a coincidence that suddenly all these positive tweets are going viral wanting him to launch his presidential campaign. I believe the next star in the Democratic Party has yet to rise to fame, and Gavin would easily lose to even JD ******* Vance

[Redstreak]

 

[Vermillion]

 

[Vroom Vroom]

1 hour ago, Cruel Summer said:

Yeah, I think you may need to take a break if your immediate reaction to that post was to accuse me of having "low digital literacy" and "troll behavior." Prominent Democrats don't need to be the ones talking about it for me to mention it as being one of many examples of the clownshit nonsense currently pervading social media and media commentary that is emblematic of the neoliberal mindset that desperately seeks any explanation for this kind of loss EXCEPT the actual explanation. You also appear to have read into it an additional "democrats and republicans are the same!" that, well, I didn't say at any point, so none of that is my problem. 

Yes, using in your words, "some TikTok reposted on Reddit with thousands of upvotes" as a source to make a point is either an example of low digital literacy or troll behavior. 
 

I agree with you that some people on social media and out of touch talking heads on MSNBC are questioning the results because they can't come to terms with Trump winning. But your source is poopoo and that's the main reason for my response 

[CandyCoatedClouds]

2 hours ago, MAKSIM said:

The North Carolina statewide results offer a glimpse of what could have happened without running a Biden-tied candidate. The North Carolina dem party is also chaired by a 26 year old. 

 

 

 

So proud of my state for this part at least. I'm alao happy to live in a blue county (surrounded by red though) also I'm pretty sure that when Roy Cooper runs for senate in '26, he'll win. He's pretty well liked by both Democrats and Republicans alike.

[Wicked]

 

Roland been getting cooked for days now. We not falling for DNC shilling anymore.

 

 

[dman4life]

Where do you all get your political news from? I'm not touching any mainstream media outlet again but I wanna stay somewhat informed and I know this thread is kinda dead in-between election cycles.

[Relampago.]

2 hours ago, rivers said:

I hope you put them in their place. California is so demonized across social media platforms, we would be fools to run another Cali politician.

 

I did and made it a point that his name alone is synonymous with everything the coalitions we lost hate but they said he was hot so it would cancel out with white women

 

If I hear about how white women are gonna save us one more time, I'm going to become the villain Newsom sounds like. 

 

[wastedpotential]

I think a Newsom candidacy would radicalize me to the point of acquiring a chunk of land somewhere in the rockies of Montana to begin training with a maoist revolutionary brotherhood 

 

 

Spoiler

to any potentialfuture governmental employers of mine, or a domestically empowered NSA under the incoming Trump administration, this is a joke

 

 

Spoiler

I am not a maoist, nor do I intend to become one

 

 

Spoiler

yet

 

 

 

 

[madonnas]

2 hours ago, shimind said:

After Hillary and Kamala, I hope Democrats realise that women simply can't win elections on a democratic ticket. They better not nominate a female president candidate for atleast another 1000 years. only a woman on a republican ticket can even think of becoming a pres 

I don’t get this.  Tons of (socially conservative even!) countries have elected women presidents.  Why can’t America?

 

it’s certainly a bigger uphill battle but it’s doable

[HausOfPunk]

12 minutes ago, dman4life said:

Where do you all get your political news from? I'm not touching any mainstream media outlet again but I wanna stay somewhat informed and I know this thread is kinda dead in-between election cycles.

This thread.

 

[Relampago.]

27 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

 

I keep seeing this being mentioned but.. two things, isn't this the education and information we've been asking for? This is a good thing that they're educating themselves now, it's unfortunate it's post election is all.

 

That being said, I myself also looked this up just to get more information on the precise details of Trump's plans and how they'd differ from the tariffs Biden/Harris kept from the original Trump era. I wouldn't be shocked if most of this includes people who didn't vote for Trump, but want to see just how bad the plan actually is.

 

It is kind of a disaster of a plan, and Trump is going to press the gas on an unwinnable trade war with… pretty much the entire world, especially China, but we can't expect people to understand the details of global economics. It all leads us back to the same issue— saying Trump's plan was going to cost a family $4,000 a year when it came from the mouth of people who seemed to increase prices that much as well at face value to the average American, was clearly not enough and honestly wasn't even made important enough.

 

I wish Harris would have tackled the economy head on with direct answers. It's clear she was scared to fully go in on that topic and I think people sensed the nervousness which they interpreted as guilt and thus saw it as her taking responsibility for the economy. 

[Virgos Groove]

At this point, Nancy Corleone could hit him with a bat and I'd cheer for it. Throwing an entire country into fascism because your ego got hurt is treasonous. 

[Virgos Groove]

8 minutes ago, madonnas said:

I don't get this.  Tons of (socially conservative even!) countries have elected women presidents.  Why can't America?

 

it's certainly a bigger uphill battle but it's doable

"Latinos are simply too machista to elect a woman!!!"

 

Meanwhile Claudia Sheinbaum won in a landslide.

 

[Vroom Vroom]

9 minutes ago, HausOfPunk said:

This thread.

 

Thank god for @Vermillion for going through the trenches of the internet to filter the trash and bring us trustworthy news and information