news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[Virgos Groove]

5 minutes ago, Tovitov said:

Vance's argument on Joe Rogan was something like:

 

"Biden has knee capped the Israelis by forcing them to consider the humanitarian impact(Rafah), there by extending the war and causing more casualties in the process"

 

It's a Galaxy Brain take. Trump isn't going to strong arm Netanyahu into ending the war, he's going to let Bibi off the leash. It might resolve the war quicker, but this will not be a good thing. Biden's failure was his inability to contain Bibi, Trump won't even try. 

Sis, I know damn well Trump is as pro-Israel as it comes, just let me be high off hopium and delusion for a bit. 

 

And Biden didn't do jack **** to stop Bibi. He went against US law and lied to Congress just to give Israel more money.

[dman4life]

Democrats will need another Obama, or Trump like candidate in order to have any chance at the presidency. I say this because while we've spent so much time talking about the millions who stayed home there are also millions who've voted in the last 3 cycles and are at this point VERY disillusioned with the country and will very much be isolationists by the time the next election (if we have one) comes around. People really just don't care anymore and it's gonna take a true inspiring once in a lifetime candidate (nobody on the current bench) to make likely Democratic voters care again to vote 

Edited Saturday at 02:56 PM by dman4life

[MAKSIM]

5 minutes ago, dman4life said:

Democrats will need another Obama, or Trump like candidate in order to have any chance at the presidency. I say this because while we've spent so much time talking about the millions who stayed home there are also millions who've voted in the last 3 cycles and are at this point VERY disillusioned with the country and will very much be isolationists by the time the next election (if we have one) comes around. People really just don't care anymore and it's gonna take a true inspiring once in a lifetime candidate (nobody on the current bench) to make likely Democratic voters care again 

This is the wrong thinking. In 2004, the electorate wasn't thinking "we need an Obama." In 2012, the electorate wasn't thinking "we need a Trump." In 2016, the electorate wasn't thinking "we need Biden." So forth and so on. 
 

Obama and Trump are people that on their face would be seen as unelectable in the previous election cycles that they win. The lesson out of this election should not be we need to run someone like Obama or like Trump.

Edited Saturday at 02:59 PM by MAKSIM

[Cruel Summer]

Just saw some TikTok reposted on Reddit with thousands of upvotes going on about how "we should be asking ourselves if Trump cheated." I guess I'm not surprised that the cheating narrative has already started. Oh liberals - always anyone else's fault but YOURS 

[dman4life]

Just now, MAKSIM said:

This is the wrong thinking. In 2004, the electorate wasn't thinking "we need an Obama." In 2012, the electorate wasn't thinking "we need a Trump." In 2016, the electorate wasn't thinking "we need Biden." So forth and so on. 
 

Obama and Trump are people that on their face would be seen as unelectable in the previous election cycles that they win. 

My overall point is the average Democratic voter doesn't really care anymore. 

[rivers]

5 hours ago, Relampago. said:

Went to my boyfriend's friend's party tonight and everyone was talking about how much they think Gavin Newsom should run. 

 

They're all college educated, $100k + salary makers. 
 

I hope you put them in their place. California is so demonized across social media platforms, we would be fools to run another Cali politician.

 

[Armani?]

7 minutes ago, dman4life said:

Democrats will need another Obama, or Trump like candidate in order to have any chance at the presidency. I say this because while we've spent so much time talking about the millions who stayed home there are also millions who've voted in the last 3 cycles and are at this point VERY disillusioned with the country and will very much be isolationists by the time the next election (if we have one) comes around. People really just don't care anymore and it's gonna take a true inspiring once in a lifetime candidate (nobody on the current bench) to make likely Democratic voters care again to vote 

Whoever it is, the current brand of Neoliberalism is dead. We can't go the status quo route.

[dman4life]

2 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

Just saw some TikTok reposted on Reddit with thousands of upvotes going on about how "we should be asking ourselves if Trump cheated." I guess I'm not surprised that the cheating narrative has already started. Oh liberals - always anyone else's fault but YOURS 

Yeah even my friends will send me articles and tweets about so called fraud or whatever and I'm like just give it up, we lost, the Dems screwed us again. 

[Rep2000]

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/5GJoMEWt46

Elon Musk is officially a stateman now 

 

[Harrier]

If Trump permanently wins over Muslim voters after securing a ceasefire he deserves it I'm doubtful that he will, but given Bibi does like him more and the Iranians are definitely more scared of him, it is not outside the realm of possibility. And even if it's overly favourable to Israel, I'll still be the first to give credit where credit is due 

 

If the anti war **** ends up being real and he moves both that and Ukraine with deals that overly favour Russia and Israel... is that a net good? I know I'm a pansy pacifist that hates violence so maybe I'm off base there. As long as that doesn't give China queue to attack Taiwan ig.

[Mike91]

Based on the people I've talked to since Tuesday (as well as who some of my friends have spoken) it seems like people made up their minds about this election a long time ago. People genuinely believe Trump is going to make things better for them.

 

I don't think Kamala ever had a chance tbh. 

 

[Bears01]

7 minutes ago, Mike91 said:

Based on the people I've talked to since Tuesday (as well as who some of my friends have spoken) it seems like people made up their minds about this election a long time ago. People genuinely believe Trump is going to make things better for them.

 

I don't think Kamala ever had a chance tbh. 

 

Neither do I. I felt trumps support was more LOUD in 2020 (literally my entire town was decorated with support for him in 2020) but even with casual non political people this year, it felt like almost everyone wanted him back. It definitely peaked though right when the first assassination attempt happened 

[MAKSIM]

The North Carolina statewide results offer a glimpse of what could have happened without running a Biden-tied candidate. The North Carolina dem party is also chaired by a 26 year old. 

 

 

 

[Rep2000]

9 minutes ago, Harrier said:

If Trump permanently wins over Muslim voters after securing a ceasefire he deserves it I'm doubtful that he will, but given Bibi does like him more and the Iranians are definitely more scared of him, it is not outside the realm of possibility. And even if it's overly favourable to Israel, I'll still be the first to give credit where credit is due 

 

If the anti war **** ends up being real and he moves both that and Ukraine with deals that overly favour Russia and Israel... is that a net good? I know I'm a pansy pacifist that hates violence so maybe I'm off base there. As long as that doesn't give China queue to attack Taiwan ig.

Is it not a net good, since what would stop Russia from repeating their invasion to another former Soviet nation in the future? Hopes and prayers? We saw what happened after Russia annexing Crimea.

And Ukraine is a dam that is about to break.

 

Also, the idea that Bibi loves Trump so much that he would stop his evil warrings after everyone has pressured him to stop is ... a bit ... cartoonishly delulu. But you know, if it stops their genocide, then let us be delulu with you.

[shimind]

After Hillary and Kamala, I hope Democrats realise that women simply can't win elections on a democratic ticket. They better not nominate a female president candidate for atleast another 1000 years. only a woman on a republican ticket can even think of becoming a pres 

[Vroom Vroom]

29 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

Just saw some TikTok reposted on Reddit with thousands of upvotes going on about how "we should be asking ourselves if Trump cheated." I guess I'm not surprised that the cheating narrative has already started. Oh liberals - always anyone else's fault but YOURS 

Are any prominent democrats endorsing these thoughts? Or just random nobodies from the internet? 
 

I know a lot of you get off with the idea that democrats and republicans are the same, but random conspiracies from reddit and x mean nothing. If Kamala or other democrats were endorsing these theories and refusing to accept the results that would be a different story. But Kamala conceded. 
 

Compared to 51% of Republican nominees for House, Senate and key statewide offices in nearly every state that denied or questioned the 2020 presidential election outcome. 
The two parties are not the same 

 

Also, I'm kind of getting tired of people having low digital literacy. Likes on Reddit are irrelevant. Literally anyone in the world can make a Reddit account. Acting like up votes on a Reddit post allows you the ability to make assumptions about a group of people is troll behavior 

[Cruel Summer]

3 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said:

Are any prominent democrats endorsing these thoughts? Or just random nobodies from the internet? 
 

I know a lot of you get off with the idea that democrats and republicans are the same, but random conspiracies from reddit and x mean nothing. If Kamala or other democrats were endorsing these theories and refusing to accept the results that would be a different story. But Kamala conceded. 
 

Compared to 51% of Republican nominees for House, Senate and key statewide offices in nearly every state that denied or questioned the 2020 presidential election outcome. 
The two parties are not the same 

 

Also, I'm kind of getting tired of people having low digital literacy. Likes on Reddit are irrelevant. Literally anyone in the world can make a Reddit account. Acting like up votes on a Reddit post allows you the ability to make assumptions about a group of people is troll behavior 

Yeah, I think you may need to take a break if your immediate reaction to that post was to accuse me of having "low digital literacy" and "troll behavior." Prominent Democrats don't need to be the ones talking about it for me to mention it as being one of many examples of the clownshit nonsense currently pervading social media and media commentary that is emblematic of the neoliberal mindset that desperately seeks any explanation for this kind of loss EXCEPT the actual explanation. You also appear to have read into it an additional "democrats and republicans are the same!" that, well, I didn't say at any point, so none of that is my problem. 

[Thuggin]

My family is convinced Trump already made the economy better because stocks surged after Trump won

 

[Communion]

4 hours ago, Lose My Breath said:

The centrist dems voted

This is the problem. You cannot discern between criticisms of Dem electeds and voters. Electeds and voters are not one. Dems have admitted primaries are for show.

 

Even when criticizing something obviously only electeds can do - fundraise - you prohect your identity onto Dems.

 

Hakeem Jeffries does not care if you live or die. 

[ClashAndBurn]

1 hour ago, Tovitov said:

Vance's argument on Joe Rogan was something like:

 

"Biden has knee capped the Israelis by forcing them to consider the humanitarian impact(Rafah), there by extending the war and causing more casualties in the process"

 

It's a Galaxy Brain take. Trump isn't going to strong arm Netanyahu into ending the war, he's going to let Bibi off the leash. It might resolve the war quicker, but this will not be a good thing. Biden's failure was his inability to contain Bibi, Trump won't even try. 

Biden didnt even try either. He wanted to LOOK like it so he wouldn't lose votes, but in the end he supports unfettered death and destruction of Palestinians and doesn't actually care about the two state solution, which hasn't been an actual policy belief of any president since Obama.

 

I don't think you liberals realize how much of a Zionist bigot Joe Biden really is. You're all blinded by partisanship.

[Armani?]

24 minutes ago, shimind said:

After Hillary and Kamala, I hope Democrats realise that women simply can't win elections on a democratic ticket. They better not nominate a female president candidate for atleast another 1000 years. only a woman on a republican ticket can even think of becoming a pres 

I think we're being dramatic but I wouldn't go with a woman on the ticket just in 2028.

 

After that is whatever

[ClashAndBurn]

4 hours ago, Lose My Breath said:

The centrist dems voted, and voted for Kamala.  Who didn't vote was the far left, they stayed home.

No. Suburban women just fled the Democratic Party because COVID wasn't a concern anymore.

 

Virginia was the indicator of how this was going to go all along. It was before Dobbs, and the shock of losing abortion rights have worn off.

 

Now abortion will be banned nationally, and the only ones who will rise up in reaction to that are blue state women whose votes don't realistically matter.

[Communion]

5 hours ago, Leppie said:

My Twitter feed is full of people wanting Gavin to run while calling him a sociopath at the same time  

To be clear this is a bot operation paid for and it's embarrassing that this is the Democrat media ecosystem. 

 

Any Biden tiktok twink or ugly Never Trump Republican must be ejected from the party. 

 

Send Victor Shi and Rachel Bitcoinfucker to a gulag!!!

Edited Saturday at 04:10 PM by Communion

[ClashAndBurn]

7 minutes ago, Communion said:

To be clear this is a bot operation paid for and it's embarrassing that this is the Democrat media ecosystem. 

 

Any Biden tiktok twink or ugly Never Trump Republican must be ejected from the party. 

 

Send Victor Shi and Rachel Bitcoinfucker to a gulag!!!

yeah. When your youth outreach is being helmed by a loser like Harry Sisson, you should honestly know you're cooked already

[Wicked]

21 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Biden didnt even try either. He wanted to LOOK like it so he wouldn't lose votes, but in the end he supports unfettered death and destruction of Palestinians and doesn't actually care about the two state solution, which hasn't been an actual policy belief of any president since Obama.

 

I don't think you liberals realize how much of a Zionist bigot Joe Biden really is. You're all blinded by partisanship.

They realize it, they don't care lol.