news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[Marianah Adkins]

Also Hinchcliff must be relieved that Trump won. Everyone thought that Puerto Ricans will swing the election to Kamala, only for them to swing harder to Trump even more 

[K.O]

I'm surprised that Jacky Rosen will hold on to her senate seat and by a larger margin than CCM especially in a worse environment.

is she really popular in Nevada or something? 

[Lover]

50 minutes ago, waylon4ever said:

Susan Sumerall Wiles makes history and shatters the glass ceiling by being named the first-ever Chief of Staff of the White House! 

[Arrows]

2 hours ago, Jay07 said:

Okay fair. Then why didn't these poor, downtrodden working class guys take 5 seconds to google that all of Trump's policies, from tax cuts for the billionaire class to the tariffs will impact them negatively? And for that matter, why didn't all of those white, working class guys in Trump shirts at his rallies ever say that they support him because they're having financial issues and are instead obviously supporting him because they can finally be free to give the finger to liberals and their pronouns and turning their kids trans at the school nurse's office? I'm sorry, but I'm tired of constantly giving these people the benefit of the doubt when they keep electing a fascist that will make life worse for everyone other than Elon Musk and Peter Thiel. It's time to admit Make America Great Again is not about economics. It's about going back to a version of America where the straight, christian, white man ruled over everyone and that's why they vote for Trump. Stop making excuses, stop coddling them and trying to pander to them. They're lost. Hillary was right.

You're right, but not wise

[Chiidish]

2 hours ago, Wicked said:

 

Bro why do y'all always do this at the slightest dem criticism. It's getting tired. 

 

I'm in this thread, I'm literally talking to all these posters who have never interacted with the groups of people they're trying to demonize. I'm sorry you don't like to hear the truth unless I add "and Trump" at the end of my posts.

This is THEEE problem with Dems and Liberal messaging. They refuse to build a coalition WITH their base, they always chose to think FOR their base by parroting managerial/consultant class talking points rooted in classism and academia. And then when that LOSES they get hostile and confused why the groups they didn't truly engage with aren't voting for them more and more. 
 

Take some damn responsibility. I can't believe (I can) that dem leaders haven't resigned yet. Get them OUT

Edited November 8 by Chiidish

[Raspberries]

I think more than anything, I feel an overwhelming and profound sadness. It's knowing that a majority of voters voted for him this time and embraced his rhetoric and ideologies. The way we think and value people is now a minority thought in this country and it is soul crushing

[Wicked]

7 hours ago, Bloo said:

Speaking of online commentators, is anyone following some of the (very light) drama around Olayemi Olurin?

 

[Virgos Groove]

I just pray this is the last time we have to hear about these alleged millions of Never Trumpers that Dems must betray their base for.

 

@NancyPelosi Get a ******* restraining order from Liz Cheney and get it through your thick, insider trading skull that Dubya is NOT popular. And Dick Cheney sure as hell isn't either.

 

[nadiamendell]

 

[Princess Aurora]

3 hours ago, Relampago. said:

Oouu clock it.

 

Democrats laughing at Trump going to McDonalds and riding a garbage truck like that was a loser thing to do, meanwhile the GeePee was eating it up. 

 

Yikes! It's no wonder people HATE them. Very out of touch.

 

Actually, it was cringe and people pretended they didn't see that. The only reasons why people voted for him is because of the attempted assassination (If they still remember) tax cuts for rich and upper middle class people and inflation. Now I wanna see how he'll fix it 

Edited November 8 by Princess Aurora

[DAP]

If Dems reorient then please let this be the end of their pure abstraction of "saving democracy". Won't ever forget Biden running on the claim of "saving the soul of America" as if he were a black pastor doing a call-and-response choir routine to his congregation. Have they defined what this "soul" in question is yet?

 

[FameFatale]

My tiktok feed being nothing but the math ain't mathing and BlueAnon stop the steal

 

[FameFatale]

1 hour ago, Marianah Adkins said:

Its her interview in The View when she said she will not change a thing from Biden. That gave a lifeline to Trump who was tanking after the debate. Her momentum stopped and she started doing all of the bullshit errors like parading the Cheneys in an attempt to regain momentum, only for her numbers to tank completely.

 

That View Interview imo is the real October Surprise of the election 

 

Right wing media picked that up the second she said it too and ran with the "She isn't changing anything. She is Biden" narrative and so many Americans who aren't chronically online associate this economy and the inflation with their administration. Also the dumb talking points about her being VP why isn't she doing it now really stuck to a lot of people too, unfortunately. 

[If U Seek Amy]

51 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

I think more than anything, I feel an overwhelming and profound sadness. It's knowing that a majority of voters voted for him this time and embraced his rhetoric and ideologies. The way we think and value people is now a minority thought in this country and it is soul crushing

My exact sentiment. Now that I am settling down and emotions are calming I cannot find myself not disgusted with a large portion of the population. It has left me with a lot of sadness. Even when I look past our differences and try to be optimistic and all that all I can think is "a majority of the US is okay with electing a convicted sexual abuser that will once again foster a chaotic and hateful environment and put their own selfish short term concerns over the well being of all."
 

I can live through 4 years of Trump. But the rest of my life feels like now I hold disdain for a majority of humans and I hate feeling that way. I was really hoping 2016 was a one off mistake. Of course there was always gonna be Trump supporters, but hopefully a minority. But no. So I've come to the conclusion while I will keep an eye on things out of curiosity it is time to fully prioritize me and my life. Clearly the majority are doing the same. Why should I have concern for a population of people who couldn't care less about me? I will help and care for people who deserve it absolutely. But for the average person I don't know I have just lost the will to care. They need to learn a painful lesson. I hope as time goes on the world proves me wrong and I can return to a more peaceful and optimistic mindset. But for now there is no convincing me otherwise sadly. I've seen enough over the years 

[Vermillion]

Mark Cuban will depress base turn-out with wanting to get rid of Lina Kahn and will LOSE a general election. EDIT: Celeb benefits only applying to Trump, not transferring to Dem primary. Zero personality. EDIT #2: Same goes for JB Pritzker

 

Josh Shapiro's PA popularity is non-transferable from independents and moderates and the oppo against him (murder, harassment, IDF cheerleader) will bury him with the base and he will LOSE a general election.

 

Pete has an abysmal track record with blacks and Latinos in South Bend, carpet bagged to Michigan, and will limp through the final stages of a primary with older black voters and a gay man will NOT win a general election in my lifetime.

 

Mark Kelly only signed onto the PRO Act when forced to and has zero personality to turn out the base or young people of color.

 

Andy Beshear faltered in the pseudo VP audition and the MSM freakout over not standing his branding or accent will color coverage against him unfairly, thus impacting base turnout.

 

Gavin Newsom, the French Laundry elitist, will be destroyed in a general election and his throwing trans kids under the bus to placate Fox News because some PR Hollywood consultants told him that's his only chance for national power has already wrecked him with the base nationally.

 

Jon Ossoff will lose his upcoming Senate race thanks to changes in GA voting laws and culture war appeals to Latino and Black Men from the right and he originally won that race entirely on Warnock's coattails anyways. Thanks to that upcoming loss a prez race is DOA (Biden's previous three tries are not comparable). He's pretty and speaks well but will be seen as too fey and cosmopolitan for white working class union halls, and if his ego gets in the way he'll wreck his campaign just like Beto did.

 

Latino men that have turned to Trump aren't voting for Klobuchar, Warren, or Booker, all of whom wrecked their chances as #SnowGlobe, #Pocahantas, and #Spartacus.

 

Ritchie Torres' Zionism flip as the #1 AIPAC target will wreck needed Blue Wall margins with Arab-Americans and reads as such parody he'll be slaughtered in a primary or if not with the base not turning out for him.

 

Fetterman needs to go to a wellness retreat in Jerusalem or a fracking farm in PA and leave us all the **** alone.

 

Forgot about Julian Castro: Wrecked his chances with white wine moms with the Biden dig, can't decide if he's progressive or centrist, flip-flops constantly.

 

Oprah and the Rock can go back to her billion dollar island surrounded by the Maui ash of those that lost everything, sell her holiday catalogs while he sells his latest BS and leave us all the **** alone.

 

Good luck finding someone because I'm at a loss. And yes, it has to be a straight white man. And no, Obama 2008 is not replicable anymore. And yes, you need to look up machismo culture for Latino men that associate it with assimilating to be white, their worship of white men, and how they'll never vote for a woman.

 

Talk of Dems not speaking on economic needs correctly is a ruse to cover the motivations of many of them wanting a dictator (though not all), especially as the literal Wharton experts Trump graduated from are saying he'll wreck the economy, thus wrecking any gains they perceive Trump will provide them.

 

People want easy answers to complex problems. Bernie's blind spot regarding Latino men continues to be that many of them know Trump isn't interested truly in helping them economically but in the cultural implications that come along with his showmanship of pretending he cares.

 

It's why, when Elon's tariffs begin as well as mass internment Trump's numbers with them will barely budge.

 

Trump isn't touching grocers or oil companies for price gouging and deep down Latino working class men know that. BERNIE would try but would be struck down by the courts. This is more of a cultural buy-in to Trump's machismo due to a perceived elitist vision of Dems not caring that in many ways is accurate. 

 

It's better to them to have Trump's lies with the cultural superiority buy-in than settle once again for the Dems lies with no cultural superiority buy-in.

[Redstreak]

6 hours ago, XDNA said:

People made fun of me when I said the far right and the far left are closer together and theres common elements there like anti-vax views that converge. I've seen it in so many coworkers and friends in recent years.

The problem is you're ascribing those people with those labels as if they're labels inherent to their being as a person. Those people would never describe themselves as far right or left, they're people who know the current economic system isn't working and Bernie and Trump were the only two people loudly saying it. Most people genuinely do not care about any other topic besides "can I provide for my family"

 

I live in Alabama, probably almost all of my coworkers are republicans and don't really follow politics. They don't talk about immigrants, they don't talk about abortion, but what I have heard even from myself nearly every week for the past year was "can you believe what I spent on groceries yesterday?"

Edited November 8 by Redstreak

[shelven]

3 minutes ago, Vermillion said:

Mark Cuban will depress base turn-out with wanting to get rid of Lina Kahn and will LOSE a general election

I'm not arguing they should run Mark Cuban in 2028, but I'd be willing to bet like $1000 that 95% of Dem voters have never even heard the name "Lina Khan" before  You'd be lucky if even 20% know what the FTC was/what it does. There's no universe where the FTC and who runs it ever becomes a deciding election issue in the current version of US poilitics that we can now comfortably say is defined by anti-intellectualism. 

[Communion]

I dont want to inspire doomerism but I was catching up with my mom since we had went to vote together (she thought Kamala was so cool and normal and wanted her to be president so bad ), but while we were talking, the subject of school shootings somehow got brought up and...

 

....I realized the generation that has to learn to hide under desks due to school shooters swung to Trump. 

 

I really don't know how people defend "pragmatism" and only ever doing "incremental progress" again after this.

 

The generation that has only ever known Trump and school shootings and other horrible things voted for him - at least its men - because these things become normalized to them. School shootings are just a thing that happens and there's no longer a clear idea in young voters' heads that Trump's gun policies cause them. That the economic reality they don't like is a product mainly of Republicans isn't obvious to them cause Dems hesitated on fighting Republicans to defend their own economic stimulus policies. 

 

America needs radical change and Dems are going to keep losing unless they get radical. 

Edited November 8 by Communion

[Vermillion]

Bernie's now deliberate blind spot continues to be many working class men of color knowing that Trump truly isn't interested in helping them but their buy-in regardless because of the perceived cultural superiority appeal that comes along with it.

 

Tons of articles have been written about this from Tejanos and Cubanos in the past five years.

[Vermillion]

2 minutes ago, shelven said:

I'm not arguing they should run Mark Cuban in 2028, but I'd be willing to bet like $1000 that 95% of Dem voters have never even heard the name "Lina Khan" before  You'd be lucky if even 20% know what the FTC was/what it does. There's no universe where the FTC and who runs it ever becomes a deciding election issue in the current version of US poilitics that we can now comfortably say is defined by anti-intellectualism. 

Fine, then the personality appeal argument still holds in that he has none.

 

We're talking about appeal to a Dem primary. Mark will be held to a different standard as a billionaire than Donald and won't be given the same celebrity lift in primary polling.

[on the line]

30 minutes ago, Princess Aurora said:

Actually, it was cringe and people pretended they didn't see that. The only reasons why people voted for him is because of the attempted assassination (If they still remember) tax cuts for rich and upper middle class people and inflation. Now I wanna see how he'll fix it 

Not at all.... Even the far left in this thread were laughing and ki'ing over those photos for days. It went "Kamala sooooooo bad1111!!!!!!@!@#!@!!!" and "Trump did this again. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!" And that is from liberals/far left(rigthers)/etc.

 

America LOVES to talk about Trump whether you hate him or love him. Hindsight is 20/20, and this was always going to be Trump's win.

[ClashAndBurn]

1 hour ago, jakeisphat said:

Well, yes. And I hope one of the progressive candidates comes swinging out the gate with haymakers toward Shapiro for covering up a murder - and Pete for being unqualified and the biggest Wall Street industry plant we've ever seen. Send those mfs packing early during the first few debates. 

The Democratic Party primary electorate is allergic to negative campaigning against each other. See the reaction they had to the following:

 

1. "That little girl was me."

 

2. Julian Castro belittling Joe Biden's memory

 

3 Cory Booker implying Joe Biden's memory was going

 

All of the attacks on Joe Biden's age and cognitive ability and his racist record made him stronger, while everyone who attacked him got punished for trying to weaken the frontrunner in the general election.

[Redstreak]

6 hours ago, Jay07 said:

When she said "we won't go back" but people said "we WILL go back to the hatred, chaos and division" and posters in here are trying to convince me they're actually nice, decent people that actually want MORE leftist policies except when they say things like "comrade Kamala" and "your body, my choice".

 

Like, I don't understand. I know the lefties in here found an opportunity to wild out and sadly reminisce about Bernie again but Kamala had the common sense economic policies like raising the minimum wage and offering incentives to buy a house and have children and people still call her too extreme and voted the person supported by Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. Why?

Biden said his big focus was raising the minimum wage and then it was the *first* thing he let get removed from his big infrastructure bill, you don't get to do that and then expect people to believe you the next time you run on it

Edited November 8 by Redstreak

[Princess Aurora]

1 hour ago, on the line said:

Not at all.... Even the far left in this thread were laughing and ki'ing over those photos for days. It went "Kamala sooooooo bad1111!!!!!!@!@#!@!!!" and "Trump did this again. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!" And that is from liberals/far left(rigthers)/etc.

 

America LOVES to talk about Trump whether you hate him or love him. Hindsight is 20/20, and this was always going to be Trump's win.

I found it cringe honestly. I still don't understand what Americans see in an 80-year-old obese cVnt but I guess many didn't vote him for the character but because he's good at selling a product with the help of Musty of course. Good things come in threes, Bad things come in threes.

Edited November 8 by Princess Aurora

[Communion]

3 hours ago, Onyxmage said:

because you pretend that you cant afford eggs

You got an entire historic election that proved your idea that negative economic sentiment wasn't real as false. You and whatever pundits you picked up this idea from like David Shor need to be ejected from the party immediately. You were wrong. We must now clean up your mess.