BOOMBAYAH Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Obama's speech (rant) to Black men was actually an early hint that none of us recognised about how Democrats have no idea how to encourage and win over voters who are on the edge/need encouragement/want real life solutions (from either party).ย ย ย ย 3
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 8 ATRL Moderator Posted November 8 Just now, Communion said: He's always been this like.. insane weird right-wing liberal. He was saying Biden winning in 2020 was "more important" than police brutality and so that he hoped enough protestors would get shot by conservatives that the protestors should go home??ย ย Maybe it's cause he has "Liberal" in his user (OmniLiberal) but he's always been a right-winger. He just went from video game streamer to trying to seem 'progressive' by going out and debating (a throwback) people like.. Lauren Southern.ย ย He's just a reactionary neoliberal who will take any view that frames American neoliberal as inherently good. ย Him telling Vietnamese youtuber Luna Oi that America did nothing wrong during the Vietnam War is like.. the same to me as Vaush saying America nalpalming North Korea was amazing.ย Wild, thanks for the TLDR overview of this man. I will continue to ignore his existence.ย 1
ClashAndBurn Posted November 8 Posted November 8 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Communion said: Me as someone who became blackpilled about progressive content creation after 2020 and basically checked out being confused about why the guy who said he wanted to go out and shoot Black Lives Matter protestors is someone liberal twitter users keep referencing as a liberal content creator??? fgjknbkjnfgย Well, I genuinely mean Destiny clones as in people who got their start copying his rhetorical style and debate formats, like Vaush, who is probably the least bad out of all of them, even though I've had my issues with him in the past... I can appreciate the tack he's taken recently. from what little I've seen, he's actually acknowledged Kamala's campaigning was **** and was heading for disaster, and he actually has been preparing his audience for that eventuality rather than serving them delusion and denial like every other liberal and progressive left creator has. Even so, there are obvious red flags with him (both fair and unfair) that would make the DNC never want to touch him. I believe he got banned from Twitch once for saying Israel deserved to get nuked or something? (Which, heheh. ) Soooo yeah. He's made too many mistakes like that (as well as the "Tactical N word clip"), I'm afraid. Even if he's mellowed out from that kind of edginess, that's not the sort of thing you can come back from and build anything more than a niche audience. ย (Edit: let me clarify that I'm not endorsing Vaush or his past statements about napalm ย but as far as Destiny clones go, he's probably the most well-known and has the best production value. he just comes with A LOT of baggage) ย Destiny himself is beyond redeemable trash and has never said anything of value. I feel like he even tried to advocate for a candidate in like Nebraska or something and his support for Kyle Rittenhouse basically got the candidate to say no and disavow him. I could be misremembering, butย ย ย I wish I could endorse Hasan as a content creator for shepherding the left forward, but... there's a ceiling for the guy who literally said America deserved 9/11, I'm sorry to say. Not from me obviously, but... there's a reason Ritchie Torres is citing that specifically to get him banned from Twitch and brought before Congress as a terrorist sympathizer who should be sent to Gitmoย ย Edited November 8 by ClashAndBurn
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 8 ATRL Moderator Posted November 8 7 minutes ago, BOOMBAYAH said: Obama's speech (rant) to Black men was actually an early hint that none of us recognised about how Democrats have no idea how to encourage and win over voters who are on the edge/need encouragement/want real life solutions (from either party).ย ย ย ย Obama speaking to Black men like that was so frustrating. It was especially infantilizing and was only going to rub people the wrong way. ย To Kamala's credit, I agree with the man in this video that Kamala didn't really speak to people like this. Aside from the very obvious "I'm speaking" flub, she never really spoke down to the American people in the way of calling them uneducated, uninformed, stupid, bigoted, etc. I think that was one of her more notable strengths as a candidate. 4
ClashAndBurn Posted November 8 Posted November 8 28 minutes ago, Bloo said: Ummm??? I keep hearing about Destiny but I am blessed to say I've never watched his content, never encountered his content, never witnessed it. I'm suddenly feeling very blessed and privileged for somehow missing that mess.ย โ Speaking of online commentators, is anyone following some of the (very light) drama around Olayemi Olurin? Ah, the "abolitionist lawyer melting down over the cop losing" drama? I've seen a little bit of it. It's a little disappointing but seeing as she's a Bahamian immigrant whose green card could get canceled overnight, I can see where she's coming from.
GraceRandolph Posted November 8 Posted November 8 30 minutes ago, Bloo said: Ummm??? I keep hearing about Destiny but I am blessed to say I've never watched his content, never encountered his content, never witnessed it. I'm suddenly feeling very blessed and privileged for somehow missing that mess.ย โ Speaking of online commentators, is anyone following some of the (very light) drama around Olayemi Olurin? What's going on with Olay?
Cruel Summer Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Before I go to bed, I have to mention the one and only positive outcome of this horrifying election for me: ย Because of the loss of the current Democratic administration, somewhere, probably in Michigan, someday soon, Pete Buttigieg will run for public office to continue his career. He will announce his candidacy for the United States Senate, or for Governor of Michigan, or some such office that doesn't feel like a demotion from his Secretary position. There will be enthusiasm, speculation about his chances, thinkpieces about his identity playing a role - he may even take early frontrunner status. ย And no matter where it is, no matter what office he seeks, I will have the supreme joy, pleasure, and delight of being able to work tirelessly, day in and day out, night after night, to help his strongest viable progressive opponent, whoever that may be, end his whole ******* political career. ย Goodnight!ย 9
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 8 ATRL Moderator Posted November 8 4 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: What's going on with Olay? She had a video with The Vanguard, Emma Vigeland, the Humanist Report, and Lance from the Serfs to discuss the election ahead of election night. Her and Emma were praising the Kamala campaign and basically defending Kamala's shift to the right as strategically smart. Then the result came in. She then made a videoย basically ranting trying to explain the result as just being a result of racism and sexism and refused to acknowledge any faults with the campaign. She's since deleted her Twitter profile and she's now becoming more antagonistic towards the Left. She's not as prominent, I think, so it's not gaining as much traction. But it's just something I noticed and thought came out of the blue. So I was wondering if anyone else had noticed and if I missed something. 1
GraceRandolph Posted November 8 Posted November 8 2 minutes ago, Bloo said: She had a video with The Vanguard, Emma Vigeland, the Humanist Report, and Lance from the Serfs to discuss the election ahead of election night. Her and Emma were praising the Kamala campaign and basically defending Kamala's shift to the right as strategically smart. Then the result came in. She then made a videoย basically ranting trying to explain the result as just being a result of racism and sexism and refused to acknowledge any faults with the campaign. She's since deleted her Twitter profile and she's now becoming more antagonistic towards the Left. She's not as prominent, I think, so it's not gaining as much traction. But it's just something I noticed and thought came out of the blue. So I was wondering if anyone else had noticed and if I missed something. Her analysis is kind of a mess on the election imo. Like, I'm sorry, but clearly her campaign wasn't flawless if turned New Jersey into a swing state. 2
Communion Posted November 8 Posted November 8 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Bloo said: She had a video with The Vanguard, Emma Vigeland, the Humanist Report, and Lance from the Serfs to discuss the election ahead of election night. Her and Emma were praising the Kamala campaign and basically defending Kamala's shift to the right as strategically smart. Then the result came in. She then made a videoย basically ranting trying to explain the result as just being a result of racism and sexism and refused to acknowledge any faults with the campaign. She's since deleted her Twitter profile and she's now becoming more antagonistic towards the Left. She's not as prominent, I think, so it's not gaining as much traction. But it's just something I noticed and thought came out of the blue. So I was wondering if anyone else had noticed and if I missed something. She was taking more liberal turns over the last few months as Kamala became the candidate, and I respected her general anxieties she had as an immigrant in the US. ย Though her phrasing on twitter was always very.. I don't want to say hostile, but she'd tweet so much about how she doesn't give a **** how people vote cause she herself can't vote and so it's not up to her and she just lives here, but was also really hounding the topic and issue of third party voters over and over again.ย ย I know she also wanted to move away from doing 'leftist' content to content more focused on black perspectives, but I did kinda scream when I saw she had Reecie Colbert - yes, BlackWomenViews' Reecie from the KHive 2019 twitter wars - on one of her panels. It was like.. oh?? That's a shocking pairing! ย I think a lot of what people like about Olay was her commitment to prison abolition in spite of the critiques from Dems that it is electoral poison and so to see her go all in on defending Harris, especially in this hard-on-crime form, was odd to people.ย ย Edited November 8 by Communion 2
ClashAndBurn Posted November 8 Posted November 8 The least idiotic thing I've seen tweeted by Elon Musk in years ย 1 1
Relampago. Posted November 8 Posted November 8 3 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: The least idiotic thing I've seen tweeted by Elon Musk in years ย I HATEEEEE when people like Musk are right ย It is wild to watch these Democrats NEVER LEARN 3
dman4life Posted November 8 Posted November 8 If there's any silver lining to this I truly hope msm networks like CNN collapse in ratings. We all know Fox will be fine for obvious reasons but CNN has been getting alot more heat than ever since election night and it's so satisfying to see.ย
XDNA Posted November 8 Posted November 8 1 hour ago, anastaciabby said: anyone under Biden would've been treated the same Maybe but she was a bad candidate in the 2020 primaries too. Plus being a POC woman comes with unfair disadvantages.ย ย ย ย ย
Armani? Posted November 8 Posted November 8 39 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: The least idiotic thing I've seen tweeted by Elon Musk in years ย The fact Fetterman actually posted that ย 1 hour ago, BOOMBAYAH said: Obama's speech (rant) to Black men was actually an early hint that none of us recognised about how Democrats have no idea how to encourage and win over voters who are on the edge/need encouragement/want real life solutions (from either party).ย ย ย ย It will probably get worse now tbh since it's now they're only real male voter base with everyone else shifting harder, they're going to treat it like Gollum from Lord of The Rings ย
Elusive Chanteuse Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Do you guys think all Republicans actually agree with his plans for tariffs and ACA repeal? ACA is broadly popular at this point. ย Perhaps some of his own party will rebel.ย ย
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 8 ATRL Moderator Posted November 8 28 minutes ago, Communion said: She was taking more liberal turns over the last few months as Kamala became the candidate, and I respected her general anxieties she had as an immigrant in the US. ย Though her phrasing on twitter was always very.. I don't want to say hostile, but she'd tweet so much about how she doesn't give a **** how people vote cause she herself can't vote and so it's not up to her and she just lives here, but was also really hounding the topic and issue of third party voters over and over again.ย ย I know she also wanted to move away from doing 'leftist' content to content more focused on black perspectives, but I did kinda scream when I saw she had Reecie Colbert - yes, BlackWomenViews' Reecie from the KHive 2019 twitter wars - on one of her panels. It was like.. oh?? That's a shocking pairing! ย I think a lot of what people like about Olay was her commitment to prison abolition in spite of the critiques from Dems that it is electoral poison and so to see her go all in on defending Harris, especially in this hard-on-crime form, was odd to people.ย ย I agree with all your points. I think itโs especially strange to me how she shifted to defending more generic pro-Democrat talking points while at the same time criticizing Ana Kasparian for her โright-wing trajectoryโ. Now, I have issues with a lot of what Ana has said in the past few years and thereโs a lot to unpack there. But, it doesnโt make sense to adopt conservative, capitalist framing of this race and then make a whole thing out of Anaโs perspective shift. Idk how consistent that is, but itโs just something that came to mind while writing this. 1
Elusive Chanteuse Posted November 8 Posted November 8 12 minutes ago, BOOMBAYAH said: I really don't think the conflict swayed latinos and 15 million ppl to sit out the election. I hate videos like this just gloating. lol ย 2
dman4life Posted November 8 Posted November 8 3 minutes ago, Elusive Chanteuse said: Do you guys think all Republicans actually agree with his plans for tariffs and ACA repeal? ACA is broadly popular at this point. ย Perhaps some of his own party will rebel.ย ย I don't think any of the Republicans with some type of common sense agree with most of his garbage. It's all about power and control for them, that's it!ย
Relampago. Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Honestly everything about this election and campaign is such a kii in hindsight. ย Her two main slogans being:ย ย When we fight, we WIN! (15 million people stay home) ย We're NOT going back! (everyone wants to go back to pre-COVID) ย Poor Kamala. So hopelessly out of touch. I mean, I guess me too but I wasn't running for POTUS 9 2
Cain Posted November 8 Posted November 8 7 hours ago, rzal said: Well it's hard to unite here in Europe when Germany wants cheap Russian gas and nothing else. Then you have countries like Hungary vetoing everything and Le Pen possibly winning soon in France.ย + most people despise the EU ย
Istan4R Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Whatever. She would have been blamed for any minor thing anyway. The only positive is getting to say "I told you so" to all the stupid independents.ย ย Alexaโฆplay Screwed by Janelle Monae ย
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