ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 7 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 7 5 minutes ago, Sergi91 said: He's a man… a white man. There are other white men.
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 7 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 7 5 minutes ago, Wicked said: Like... No, I kinda agree with them. Having one Hasan doesn't compare to the far right having dozens of them. 6
BOOMBAYAH Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Wicked said: Like... If we are being honest with ourselves, the Democrats are very clearly saying that they want young and handsome men to be propaganda machines, much like how right-wing influencers serve as propaganda machines for the GOP. Hasan fits every criterion the Democratic party is looking for to appeal to men, except for the fact that he openly criticizes both America and the Democrats. Hasan's right wing counterparts possess everything he does—charisma, beauty, physique, intelligence (or perceived intelligence)—but they are also loyalists to religion, the GOP, and Trump, which is what makes them such an incredible asset to America's Republican Party. If we are being honest, Democrats and American leftists who vote Democrat will, in the coming years, have to decide whether they will adopt this propaganda model or remain honest and call out the Democratic Party when necessary. Edited November 7 by BOOMBAYAH 4
Relampago. Posted November 7 Posted November 7 2 minutes ago, i spit on haters said: Exploring some options. I would suggest others do the same if you have the resources or can manipulate someone into a permanent visa. The way there's basically no point in fleeing because the entire world is shifting right and if we're going to war with Russia or China, I'd rather have The World's Most Lethal Military in my country 3 3
Wicked Posted November 7 Posted November 7 2 minutes ago, khalyan said: No, I kinda agree with them. Having one Hasan doesn't compare to the far right having dozens of them. If the Hasan model worked they way they claim it does, there'd be more of them, it doesn't. (it also doesn't help that tweeter is a woman, how we gonna know what straight white men want to hear? lmfao) He keeps being brought up... That man is viewed as a "cuck". Everybody is wrong and just trying to speculate instead of meaningful outreach to understand what they want and how they want to be targeted. I mean y'all even in here assuming things, the "problem" has been identified but everyone is talking in circles. People even blaming "wokeness" is kind of ridiculous. 1
VOSS Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Hasan is quite clearly not the type of streamer the Dems need lol 4
Navyofbadgals Posted November 7 Posted November 7 On another note, lots of swing state areas reaching peak turnout, moreso than 2020, whilst overall turnout is down a TON compared to 2020 is quite something. I get that 2020 was different due to the situation at the time but if both parties scream that the other party is the end of democracy and turnout is still lower by many millions.. that's a pretty clear sign how disconnected people are from overall politics. More than ever before this cycle truly felt like the swing state show, and i get it Kamala wasting her time on Utah or something would certainly not have worked for her but both parties, certainly dems are going to need to work on non-swing states. Esp with the electoral college shifting more in favor towards republicans in upcoming cycles 3
teresaguidice Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) 35 minutes ago, TedLasso said: Honestly Pete would be such a great option for 2028 if he wasn't gay. Dems need to find an Obama 2.0 if they want to gain more of the straight male vote. if your lesson from this election is that empty suit talking point delivery robot pete buttigieg would be a great candidate to regain public trust and rehabilitate the democratic party as one with vision and economic solutions for working class people, you are truly insane i'm sorry Edited November 7 by teresaguidice 4 4
Tovitov Posted November 7 Posted November 7 The election was probably unwinnable with Biden in the White House. A 41% approval rating in the swing states!? No democrat was winning with those numbers Poor Kamala was the sacrificial lamb and I hope she has a bright future with whatever direction she chooses to go. You can disagree with her strategy(courting republicans, Israel, moderating on multiple issues) but she put in all she had and gave democrats a fighting chance down ballot. She will always be an icon to me and I hope history is kind to her. 7 6
i spit on haters Posted November 7 Posted November 7 5 minutes ago, Relampago. said: The way there's basically no point in fleeing because the entire world is shifting right and if we're going to war with Russia or China, I'd rather have The World's Most Lethal Military in my country About to go to bed and I've been feeling down, really needed this laugh. Thank you.
Jay07 Posted November 7 Posted November 7 On the subject of young men... it used to be that college was the place that opened your mind, where you got out of your bubble, met other people, saw that gay folks aren't the devil and realized that the whole is more important than the individual. But I guess many people don't even go to college anymore, either because they can't afford it or because it's not a guaranteed path to success anymore so they keep getting stuck in their online bubble. I think Communion said Dems need to make college free and accessible. 1 1
Calvin Posted November 7 Posted November 7 43 minutes ago, TedLasso said: Unlike in 2016, Trump basically has a Trump Jr running mate who can carry his legacy if he's willing to Vance has no personality or charisma. Trump has both of these in abundance.
BOOMBAYAH Posted November 7 Posted November 7 The thing with left vs. right is that when leftists fight back, play political games, and try to be Machiavellian, they are automatically viewed as absolutely evil. But when the right does it, it's just the status quo. Just look at how Kamala dodging questions was perceived vs how Trump dodging questions was perceived. Spoiler I guess it is a compliment deep down, though, since it seems like people expect Democrats and leftist governments to be the party of the decency, morality and honesty. 3
Tovitov Posted November 7 Posted November 7 3 minutes ago, Jotham said: Turnout is down like, 500k in my home state of NJ right now. It's bad
Navyofbadgals Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Just now, Jay07 said: I think Communion said Dems need to make college free and accessible. also one of dems biggest weaknesses that they haven't done more to invest in this, if not their biggest because it's so connected to so many other factors. 5 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 7 ATRL Moderator Posted November 7 7 minutes ago, Wicked said: If the Hasan model worked they way they claim it does, there'd be more of them, it doesn't. (it also doesn't help that tweeter is a woman, how we gonna know what straight white men want to hear? lmfao) He keeps being brought up... That man is viewed as a "cuck". Everybody is wrong and just trying to speculate instead of meaningful outreach to understand what they want and how they want to be targeted. I mean y'all even in here assuming things, the "problem" has been identified but everyone is talking in circles. People even blaming "wokeness" is kind of ridiculous. If the Hasan model were reliably profitable, there would be more of them. There are plenty of leftist voices online but the Democrats never engage with them. The Squad refuses to engage with TYT even though Cenk Uygur (TYT founder was the one that founded the Justice Democrats). The Democrats do a terrible job engaging with voices that will challenge them even if they’re wanting the party to grow. That’s a flaws with the party, not the Hasan model. 3
Communion Posted November 7 Posted November 7 55 minutes ago, Bamboo said: So....what populist dem options do we have? I.... am afraid to look at what Blunt-Rochester and Alsobrooks records are. I can't have the idea of the only black women being conserva-Dems.
anti-bitch Posted November 7 Posted November 7 9 minutes ago, Navyofbadgals said: On another note, lots of swing state areas reaching peak turnout, moreso than 2020, whilst overall turnout is down a TON compared to 2020 is quite something. I get that 2020 was different due to the situation at the time but if both parties scream that the other party is the end of democracy and turnout is still lower by many millions.. that's a pretty clear sign how disconnected people are from overall politics. More than ever before this cycle truly felt like the swing state show, and i get it Kamala wasting her time on Utah or something would certainly not have worked for her but both parties, certainly dems are going to need to work on non-swing states. Esp with the electoral college shifting more in favor towards republicans in upcoming cycles Especially Kamala's vote total is down a lot from 2020 Biden's. Maybe people in the Blue states felt like their vote doesn't matter.
Achilles. Posted November 7 Posted November 7 1 minute ago, Communion said: I.... am afraid to look at what Blunt-Rochester and Alsobrooks records are. I can't have the idea of the only black women being conserva-Dems. Well Blunt Rochester was Biden's pick and Harris mentored Alsobrooks so you can probably draw an opinion from that.
LadyDiana Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Not the first casualty of Trump siege beeing collapse of German goverment Americans, I won't forgive u this Jk, they were in sambles anyway
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