ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said: Being POTUS for 20 days is just sad ย William Harrison was president for only one month, so there is room for Kamala
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 6 ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, anastaciabby said: Why do you ignore the people in front of your eyes saying Kamala was too progressive, too emotional, too liberal? Because some of us engage in politics nonstop and know this doesn't mean anything. How is she too liberal when voters are directly voting on direct ballot measures that are more progressive than Kamala? Make it make sense. ย "Liberal" does not mean anything. It can mean conservative to people like me and communist to others. Her being "too liberal" can best be understood as her being "too close to Biden" where Biden is understood as being a liberal. This has nothing to do with policy because Kamala ran on Trump's border wall and Trump's economic plan from 2020. 1 7
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Superbitch said: No. If anything this shows you Latinos are Latinos biggest enemies. They don't care about seein themselves winning. They gravitate towards white acceptance and approval. It'll have to be white menโฆ Latinos are machistas and can't Stand to see women in power.ย Well yes, this is why Rafael Cruz goes by Ted.ย 1
anti-bitch Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Temporal said: It is just unbelievable that the polls underestimated Trump by a significant margin for the third cycle in a row. Or rather, they overestimated how many Dems would show up to vote. It's hard to believe the narrative of shy Trump voters in 2024.
Hex Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Is there ANYTHING the current administration can do to try and limit the destruction about to take place over the next four years? I'm genuinely terrified. 1
Elusive Chanteuse Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Cruel Summer said: We haven't even discussed how this is the literal death knell for the Department of Education, either. Setting us back to the ******* Ford era, Jesus ย Will this effect Fafsa and student loans? ย ย
Communion Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, anastaciabby said: Why do you ignore the people in front of your eyes saying Kamala was too progressive, too emotional, too liberal? The average voter thinks Biden and Harris' liberalism is defined by kicking poor people off Medicaid and letting veterans sleep out on the street so that Ukraine and Israel have bombs.ย ย Neoliberalism has died. No angry shouting you do can resuscitate her.ย 2 1
Devin Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Hex said: This, it's more about the overall culture than anything. users saying "trump won in 2016 and it was alrite" mentality scares me. ย its openly admitting if it didnt effect me or my household then idc. 1
byzantium Posted November 6 Posted November 6 So we are all noticing that the demographics Harris flopped with were generally the demographics Bernie was doing really well with? ย ย It's almost like liberals always had a response to the current political moment and they have themselves to blame here.ย 3 1
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Pepo said: When/if Trump removes birthright citizenship and implements mass deportation, then what? Then you'll have a lot of Trump supporting Latinos saying "I never thought he would take away MY rights" but nothing else will change fundamentally.ย 1 1
americanlife Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Elusive Chanteuse said: Will this effect Fafsa and student loans? ย ย Probably ย
Hex Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Superbitch said: No. If anything this shows you Latinos are Latinos biggest enemies. They don't care about seein themselves winning. They gravitate towards white acceptance and approval. It'll have to be white menโฆ Latinos are machistas and can't Stand to see women in power.ย I can only speak for Cubans but there is general resentment for other Latinos and an insane desire among the demographic to idolize white men. A desire to play the "i won't be a tool for minorities" card.ย 1
Hex Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, byzantium said: So we are all noticing that the demographics Harris flopped with were generally the demographics Bernie was doing really well with? ย ย It's almost like liberals always had a response to the current political moment and they have themselves to blame here.ย of you genuinely think/thought Bernie Sanders was ever gonna come close to winning an election, you are living in a fantasy world... love the guy but let's be real
FrederickGa Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Is it bad to pray for a heartattack for TRUMP or somethngย ย JD Vance will be President? But at least, it will dampen the Conservative's Energy atm
Devin Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Elusive Chanteuse said: Will this effect Fafsa and student loans? ย ย trump/project 2025 wants to effect all this. which is why latinos & gen z look so f*ckin dumb.ย
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 If there is no department of education, then there is nobody in charge of the outstanding student loans so they will all go away! 1
ImpressMeMuch Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Devin said: users saying "trump won in 2016 and it was alrite" mentality scares me. ย its openly admitting if it didnt effect me or my household then idc. and fundamentally misunderstanding the difference between then and now ย but yes - like ffs study up peopleย ย https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... 1
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Hex said: of you genuinely think/thought Bernie Sanders was ever gonna come close to winning an election, you are living in a fantasy world... love the guy but let's be real What are your reasons that he wouldn't win?
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 7 minutes ago, Pepo said: When/if Trump removes birthright citizenship and implements mass deportation, then what? Apparently his team has already restated this morning that they want to start on that day 1 1
ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, khalyan said: I would have to look back at the very initial responses to Republican election losses in the 00s. While a lot of DNC members will be quick to wrongly blame trans people or black people as the reason for the loss, I'm hoping a far left movement can come up the same way the far-right movement was born in the late 00s.ย As I remember, the initial reaction to Romney's loss in particular was that the party would need to moderate and try to perform outreach to Latino voters through compassion with candidates like Marco Rubio leading the charge. Their voters rejected that and did the complete opposite by embracing Trump, and managed to successfully court Latinos through the most disgusting nativism anyway 16 years later. 1 1
YellowRibbon Posted November 6 Posted November 6 This situation is such a mess... I know Zelensky and millions of Ukrainians are also contemplating certain options right now.
Cheers Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Superbitch said: No. If anything this shows you Latinos are Latinos biggest enemies. They don't care about seein themselves winning. They gravitate towards white acceptance and approval. It'll have to be white menโฆ Latinos are machistas and can't Stand to see women in power.ย ย 4 minutes ago, anastaciabby said: if you didn't expect it, you just weren't looking. Latinos have been growing into this mentality for a very long time and it's true what someone here said: they rather backstab their people to get rid of other minorities and because they think Trump will lower their egg prices This is the sad reality. ย But we also have to wonder why it was just assumed that Latino voters would vote left in the first place? Most Latin American countries aren't progressive. I agree that we need to stop lumping everyone together as just "POC." Every ethnicity and race has their own issues they want addressed.ย 1
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