AmericanIdol Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I see the moral superiority police is here. This is why yall got what you deserved Congrats on a HUGE win to President Trump 1
Musicmajor Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Mother Earth said: AP/NYT haven't called it yet. I think it looks cautiously good for her though because a lot of the vote left is from Kalamazoo I NEED Elissa to pull it out. I am freaking out how close it is for her. And Ruben in AZ (although I am less worried for his chances).
Communion Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Harrier said: ...And the same California that voted for Bernie Sanders by an overwhelming margin in the 2020 democratic primary. You mean the same Bernie Sanders-voting demographics who exit polls are saying stayed home in 2024. Edited November 6 by Communion 1 2
Armani? Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: I think the 2026 midterms will be determinative before then. If Republicans are able to hold on to a trifecta, I think it can safely be assumed that the Democratic Party is dead and not recoverable, and 2028 is pretty much set in stone from there. It depends on if people just switch & are reactionary to whatever policies he passes, otherwise lower youth turnout is usually default + we have to deal with Hispanic Men swinging 17 pts to the right which is a serious blow to margins. It doesn't look optimistic tbh 1
Mother Earth Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Virgos Groove said: This is really not the biggest issue rn, but I'm not ready for a 2nd Trump term will do to popular culture and the media landscape. Colbert and Oliver's Resist-Lib-ism turned up to 11, cringy songs like Commander in Chief, constant hot takes by celebs, a return of "progressive pop"... I shudder just thinking about it. Philly heard the will.i.am song and voted red the next day 5
Cruel Summer Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: I think the 2026 midterms will be determinative before then. If Republicans are able to hold on to a trifecta, I think it can safely be assumed that the Democratic Party is dead and not recoverable, and 2028 is pretty much set in stone from there. That's a good point and I fully agree.
ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, nadiamendell said: This absolutely NEEDS to happen. Sotomayor isn't going anywhere. And frankly, she probably doesn't die from her diabetes in four years, but it seems likely to me that the Democrats will not be able to clinch the Senate for a long, long time. So even if Shapiro wins in 2028, he wouldn't be able to put a justice on the bench.
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Harrier said: ...And the same California that voted for Bernie Sanders by an overwhelming margin in the 2020 democratic primary. Red wave election. Not that hard to understand yall. Everybody lost Wow it's almost like inspiring figureheads at the top bring out votes and wishy washy centrists don't 9 2
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 6 ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 Just now, Redstreak said: Wow it's almost like inspiring figureheads at the top bring out votes and wishy washy centrists don't 1
Devin Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, AmericanIdol said: I see the moral superiority police is here. This is why yall got what you deserved Congrats on a HUGE win to President Trump
Ego. Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Bloo said: Trump promising unrealistic things (regardless of the quality of those ideas) is more appealing than the other party promising nothing. Totally. It's one thing in 2016 where Trump and his strategy was new, but 8 years later? It just came across as if they were overconfident and that definitely didn't look good
Harrier Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Bloo said: ... because the Biden administration is deeply unpopular and the Democrats didn't pivot away from it. Not hard to understand, babe. I agree with that, I just don't agree that running on a broad leftist platform including Medicare for all and Green New Deal is what the 2024 electorate wanted. She needed to make clearer distinctions with Biden, preferably on inflation. Have one clear economic policy. Even then it would have been hard. Realistically neither of us can really prove our argument here so it is moot 1
mercurialworld Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, mercurialworld said: selzer being wrong by 13 points sorry, i meant 17 (SEVENTEEN) points. unbelievable 1
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 7 minutes ago, aquababy said: I know we make fun of the leopards eating faces blah blah but point #2948294 of evidence that people don't think bad policies will effect them which is why running on "he's bad" isn't inspiring. Fear mongering doesn't work if you don't think (rightly or wrongly) you're the won that has to fear 2
ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 In Wisconsin, GenZ broke big for Trump, while Boomers and Silents went for Harris Harris's own age group (50-64) actually voted against her. Gen X is extremely Trumpy. 1
Communion Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Bloo said: You can't be serious. She couldn't even let a pro-Harris Palestinian delegate give a speech at the DNC. She made a very intentional choice to give up the Arab American vote thinking the Liz Cheney voters (both of them) made for a better strategy and she lost. The Leftists were the ones saying that Gaza was a giant issue, especially in states like Michigan. People talking about pronouns when Harris basically hid trans people from view and refused to even voice support for trans people during her entire campaign. I'm going to refuse to be gaslighted. Harris ran the dream centrist campaign. She rejected progressives and progressive policy. She deplatformed activists and filled her campaign with billionaire surrogates. She avoided all identity issues and downplayed them, agreeing with Republican narratives. Her policy was crafted either by copying Trump's or picking the hot topic policy from online centrists like YIMBY twitter (her campaign now appearing to be the too online one). She lurched to the right on nearly every policy issue, in the direction of whatever view Republicans held. She actively courted Republicans, campaigned with Republicans, and planned to fill her admin with Republicans. ....and she lost worse than any Democrat this century. Edited November 6 by Communion 8 2
Walk_Away21 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 8 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said: This is really not the biggest issue rn, but I'm not ready for what a 2nd Trump term will do to popular culture and the media landscape. Colbert and Oliver's Resist-Lib-ism turned up to 11, cringy songs like Commander in Chief, constant hot takes by celebs, a return of "progressive pop"... I shudder just thinking about it. Screaming this video is already worse than the Imagine video. It's already started. 1
Vespertine Posted November 6 Posted November 6 8 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said: This is really not the biggest issue rn, but I'm not ready for what a 2nd Trump term will do to popular culture and the media landscape. Colbert and Oliver's Resist-Lib-ism turned up to 11, cringy songs like Commander in Chief, constant hot takes by celebs, a return of "progressive pop"... I shudder just thinking about it. You mean you aren't ready to be chained to the rhythm?
Armani? Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I mean, I didn't expect this but they set themselves up. They kind of ignored the Muslim vote in Michigan and let Republicans control the narrative saying she was pro Israel & against Palestine in ads 1
Cruel Summer Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Mind-boggling that there's now a bigger Democratic loss than Hillary Clinton's. God it's bad for us. 2
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I do feel bad for the trans people though. Those are likely to be the first and most affect by the administration
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Communion said: -> *adopted Trump's economic policies* -> *adopted Trump's immigration policies* -> *adopted Trump's foreign policy* -> *adopted Trump's environmental policies* *Stole his tax on tips *touted the Republican immigration bill as the standard, build more wall *no arms embargo, showing off Liz cheney *fracking is great all of a sudden and that was supposed to win over republicans and keep the base? And I've partly got myself to blame, I didn't think some of these things individually would be that big of a deal but when you put it all together… Edited November 6 by Redstreak 1 2
Cheers Posted November 6 Posted November 6 12 minutes ago, aquababy said: I'm sorry but this is just pure idiocy lmao. Imagine thinking he'd deport everyone but you.
Corso Posted November 6 Posted November 6 The only hope for the supreme court is that when Thomas and Alito retire that Trump does what he wants and chooses moderates instead of listening to conservatives and the christian right. That's probably unlikely, but that's the only hope there is. Sotomayor has to hold out until after 2028.
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