news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[on the line]

2 minutes ago, Bloo said:

Y'all are the only ones mentioning Jill Stein.

That deflection train is cho-choo'ing ahead, sis!

[Ghiles]

Don't throw tomatoes at me

 

But I think this reelection might have made Donald Trump the greatest president in US history

 

Edited November 6 by Ghiles

[Mike91]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Blue_Shirt said:

Some liberals yearning for Bernie Sanders-lite politics instead of berating him, his idea, and also his supporters after Democrats lost? Truly the reverse-2016

 

I just know he is tired as f*ck

 

The Bernie Bros went over to Trump. They gotta get them back.

 

[Jack!]

Extending the interest of your campaign to independent voters and on-the-fence voters who are registered to the opposing campaign isn't a fool-proof strategy, but it isn't redundant to try and I'm not sure I believe that's why she lost the campaign. Biden did the same thing in 2020, but the crux of the method is that it is only so effective depending on the satisfaction of the current administration.

 

They built a campaign out of a gen z pamphlet, and then completely disregarded the red lines that were being set mainly by her gen z voters. And sadly, people seem to be caring a lot less about socialism, Democratic leaning people included. It's not that they don't care about social issues at all, but they care more about the risk of not being able to put food on the table, and unfortunately I'm not sure her campaign focused on these sort of issues enough.

[Badgalbriel]

4 minutes ago, Richie.Valdez said:

Does anyone feel like the way the "woke movement" (in terms of the LGBTQ+ community at least) was handled by the democrat party played a big role in the turnout of certain demographics? 

 

I kinda feel like it did but idk how it could've been instead.. the country is just so divided and becoming less open-minded in general. 

The woke movement is very off-putting to certain groups of the population, especially for poorer people. They're struggling to pay rent and get by and at any moment they'll get a finger pointed at them because they might have used the wrong pronoun. It's been a very big discussion topic here in Brazil after Bolsonaro won. 

 

Woke culture is just too focused on stuff that most people don't care about, and the way it's pushed, is very off-putting for most people. 

Edited November 6 by Badgalbriel

[Azulito]

4 minutes ago, choerry said:

Trump would undo it the second he gets back in office.

That wouldn't be possible since they're lifetime appointments. At most he'd just put more judges on the court, but would that really matter at this point?

 

Americans want true change in this country. Trying to play by the same old rules is clearly not working for the Democrats.

[Pikachoo]

Just now, Mike91 said:

The Bernie Bros went over to Trump. They gotta get them back.

 

which makes no sense since they couldn't be any farther on every single issue

[gagacasanova]

It honestly baffles me how they were quick to judge an 80 year old man being in the White House, but sure let's elect a 78 year old who thought election day was in January.

 

All of this is to say... If there's an age restriction on when you can start running, then we need an age restriction on when you can stop running.

[Communion]

1 minute ago, Pepo said:

There has been a tremendous right-wing shift and yet people here want to have us believe that a Sanders-like political scheme would have get more Democratic votes to vote. Please.

Democrats - *offer voters a choice between liberal populism that caters to subsets of affluent voters vs reactionary populism that caters to the opposite subset of affluent voters*

 

Y'all - And yall think progressives would win??

 

This election proves that the far right is going to win when the options are between the far right and the center right. 

[Mother Earth]

3 minutes ago, khalyan said:

The US always swings from one way to another, and it's very common to do this in an election without an incumbent. And historically, the US responds by swinging to the other side next election. EVERY single president since Bill Clinton has had a trifecta, and then soon after they get trifecta, the US votes for the other side. If history continues, the Democrats will earn power back in 2026 somewhere. And I think the time of having consecutive two term presidents is over in the highly polarized environment, Americans will just switch back and forth at a more rapid pace. 

Definitely agreed and was thinking this last night. I also think that in our age of media, there's just a lot of negativity in general. Everyone from networks to newspapers to influencers are trying to get rich by looking for clicks and research shows that negativity is what gets more clicks. I don't see this election as a red wave but a blue backlash. The 2016 vote was an anti-Democrat establishment vote, 2020 was an anti-Trump vote, and 2024 is looking like an anti-Biden vote. People will find ways to be miserable in this polarized landscape.

[Devin]

17 minutes ago, TaggedGalaxy said:

I'm in my anarchist era I hope Trump burns everything to the ground I want to see egg on the face of the people who voted for him when they lose health insurance and social security.

 

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The rational side of me doesn't want to see that happen since I have family and friends who will be negatively affected by that

 

hate to say it but i agree fr. maybe its the libra us wanting balance & justice. 

 

any community thats so pro-trump (that he secretly against) should be effected first. play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[Mother Earth]

Duplicate post 

 

Edited November 6 by Mother Earth

[Komet]

5 minutes ago, Bloo said:

Where did I say that? Try to avoid strawman arguments. 

Posting 'we lefties told you so, we lefties told you so!' re: her trying to court moderates implies you think her abandoning center and running left would've netted her a better result, otherwise why post it?

 

I'm all ears on what specific policies she could've proposed for which the yesterday's electorate would've awarded her the win, just posting 'try not being Repube next time;)' reads as gloating rather than seriously discussing the loss.

[Redstreak]

8 minutes ago, FrederickGa said:

this is a case for the FBI

 

Look at New York alone.

 

trump 2020: 3.2 million

trump 2024: 3.3 million

same numbers

 

biden 2020: 5.2 million

kamala 2024: 4.1 million

A *million* votes decided not to show back up

 

I guess Liz Cheney and lethal militaries don't enthuse Dems. And that's why it's infuriating. Repubs didn't win by bringing in new people, Kamala lost by running to the right and deflating her own support and some of you are already finding excuses for it

Edited November 6 by Redstreak

[Vespertine]

17 minutes ago, khalyan said:

Well, yes and no. 

 

There is a HUGE amount of programming to suit conservatives and Republicans. There is not the same for progressives. I can think of 10-20 popular Republican podcasts, but like 2 popular Democrat podcasts. 

Oh yeah that's definitely true in terms of political podcasts. I just mean in media in general/as a whole. The MAGA movement has done an amazing job of painting pop culture as a whole as the ~liberal MSM~ so the rise of all these conservative podcasts makes sense in opposition to everything FameFatale mentioned. 

[Bloo]

4 minutes ago, Hex said:

words have truly lost all meaning oh my god

She literally bragged about building more of the Trump wall than Trump; Liz Cheney (a Neocon with 90% agreement with Trump on policy) was a central figure of her campaign; and she failed to outline any policy agenda. She certainly didn't run a left-wing campaign. She had a very obvious pivot to the right to win over both undecided voters that like Liz Cheney.

[FameFatale]

I know this is the US politics but is anyone in Argentina? I'm getting vibes from when Javier Milei was elected and now they're having all these economic issues. He was praised as Trump 2.0.

[wesleywalrus]

People really would rather vote for a chance at $2 gas than care about the community as a whole 

 

[rivers]

I'm still shocked. Based on the data we're getting back though, I think the leftists are right to gloat a little. We should all be angry about the failures of Democratic Party. That includes looking in the mirror and questioning why we surrounded ourselves in a bubble.  In the end, we all need to come together and build a coalition that doesn't include Liz Cheney. 

 

[Harrier]

11 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

How is a centrist losing to a Republican an indictment of the left? If anything it shows running to the center kills you, why would Dems enthusiastically vote for someone who made putting republicans in her cabinet a talking point. Seems to me it's a repudiation not having your own clear and contrasting plan and taking your base for granted that they'll show up

She is a centrist that was perceived by large portion of the electorate as a radical liberal. That's why. I posted the numbers a while back. Exponentially more voters viewed her as too liberal than not liberal enough. 5 to 1. The committed left constituency that stayed home en mass yall refer to doesn't exist.

 

Could she have focused more on the economy and less on things like fascism? Definitely. Could there have been a clearer economic policy people could latch on to? Definitely. Everyone agrees voters move on material conditions. But adopting Medicare for all and free college would in no way shape or form have helped Kamala Harris win this election, period.

[on the line]

4 minutes ago, VOSS said:

 

I saw even Oregon rejected statewide/federal ranked choice voting AND annual $1600 checks... leftist policies are truly failing this cycle.

[brazil]

6 minutes ago, Bamboo said:

This is basically my thoughts. Trump won in spite of an extremely horrible campaign. Kamala's campaign….i have many mixed thoughts on but I'm not 100% what I would change in hindsight. 

Kamala failed to energize the electorate. People were initially excited by not having Biden who can barely hold a conversation and she did well in the debate, but most people were complaining a lot about Kamala, she didn't take necessary stands, her speech pattern is confusing at times, she falls too much into the establishment, and have close to no charisma. Just take her performance in the primaries when she was running for President. 

 

True is that Michelle Obama could likely win, people actually like her and wouldn't just vote for her because she's not Trump.

[Komet]

 

1 minute ago, FameFatale said:

I know this is the US politics but is anyone in Argentina? I'm getting vibes from when Javier Milei was elected and now they're having all these economic issues. He was praised as Trump 2.0.

And how did that go?

 

[FameFatale]

1 minute ago, wesleywalrus said:

People really would rather vote for a chance at $2 gas than care about the community as a whole 

 

What's funny is gas is the lowest it's been in like 2 years at the moment... like ....... 

[Thuggin]

The fact Biden would've definitely lost New Jersey. All those polls back then being correct.