news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[FameFatale]

The way he's going to be 45th and 47th president is going to fuel his narcissism even more.  Like will they have to hang 2 pictures up alongside Biden at the DMV

[choerry]

2 minutes ago, Azulito said:

Biden needs to pack the Supreme Court in the next two months tbh. Time for the Democrats to fight back

 

Trump would undo it the second he gets back in office.

[ImpressMeMuch]

4 minutes ago, khalyan said:

The US always swings from one way to another, and it's very common to do this in an election without an incumbent. And historically, the US responds by swinging to the other side next election. EVERY single president since Bill Clinton has had a trifecta, and then soon after they get trifecta, the US votes for the other side. If history continues, the Democrats will earn power back in 2026 somewhere. And I think the time of having consecutive two term presidents is over in the highly polarized environment, Americans will just switch back and forth at a more rapid pace. 

and this pattern means both parties spend their time undoing the others decisions while getting blamed for the (lagging) impact of them, smh

Edited November 6 by ImpressMeMuch

[Bamboo]

This is basically my thoughts. Trump won in spite of an extremely horrible campaign. Kamala's campaign….i have many mixed thoughts on but I'm not 100% what I would change in hindsight. 

[on the line]

8 minutes ago, Harrier said:

Don't tell me what my politics are. I argued the country was shifting to the right, that she was likely going to lose, and that trying to continue democratic gains with white suburbanites was her only realistic path forward. Especially with the 100 days or so she had, given poorer voters are harder to reach. The strategy did not work. I never really argued that it would definitely work, only that she had to try. Your strategy of running left would also have failed. This is a red wave election - they were down 5-6 points in June. She could not expect repeat the turnout of an election in the middle of a once in a 100 year pandemic. Right to to the end I was expecting her to lose, though more narrowly than she did.

 

Yall are insufferable. I knew you would turn it in to an I told you so mess and give people no opportunity to grieve this awful loss without gloating about how right you all are. The complete failure of Jill Stein and the irrelevance of everything yall were takling about I that area proves that there was no appetite for your brand of politics either. The entire left was repudiated

I co-sign this.

 

Jill was a colossal failure, as well as the fear mongering from lefties on Palestine. Neither of those meaningfully affected the results. AT ALL so why are we still fighting about it? We all lost.

 

Edited November 6 by on the line
not sure why i wrote gaza instead of palestine. i'm tired.

[Azulito]

2 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Exactly.

 

It's sad, but that is what people wanted.  Look at who won, by a huge margin, who won the popular vote, and who will win every single swing state. 

 

I absolutely 100% do not agree with any of his weird **** he proposed, I am not for deportation, abortion bans, tariffs, or really anything he suggests, but apparently a lot of people are.  Kamala obviously recognized that herself, as she tried to run a more centrist campaign. 

 

 

So what's the point of the Democratic Party existing if they are just going to be low budget Republicans?

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

Some liberals yearning for Bernie Sanders-lite politics instead of berating him, his idea, and also his supporters after Democrats lost? Truly the reverse-2016

 

I just know he is tired as f*ck

 

[FrederickGa]

this is a case for the FBI

 

[JoeAg]

5 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

I really blame parents for not instilling any real morals or values in their sons. They just think the internet can raise them. I don't think all Gen Z men are a lost cause though. Plenty of them are on the right track. 

this is so depressing but so true. I'm 27 and I was born way at the beginning of the year so god only knows if i'm a millennial, a gen z-er, or a zillennial. hell, it's obviously a point of contention (lol) but I digress! I've known so many f*cking boys my age who just… do not know how to function. they base their entire lives off of what they see, what they hear, what they glean from the internet, from influencers. I used to be friends with this guy who gradually revealed himself to be conservative af, and it was so fascinating to me how even though he was markedly reverent of his parents and older brother, he was also SO chronically online and so afraid of becoming an incel. he was afraid to m*sturbate because he thought it was a "sad" thing to do and a waste of c*m. he also was super obsessed with jewelry and guns, and wanted to impress everyone at all times (to put things into perspective, I was like 20-23 when we were friends, he was 19-22). what initially drew us together as friends was that we were both angsty af and in choir together. he was super chill with my queerness, I was super chill with his straightness. still, he felt so disconnected from reality and whenever I would try to sway his views he wouldn't put up a fight but instead would be like " hmm you really think that, Joe?" and he seemed interested but he never really processed or thought too much about my opinions. it was fake kindness and fake respect. he was so good at faking it! if he really cared about me or any of the other queer people in his life, he would've internalized and actually reconsidered his beliefs. he openly told me toward the end of our friendship that he was a double issue voter: guns and protecting farmers. he revered certain conservative youtubers. he should've listened to me more and I hate how close he'd get to actually hearing me out and then just going back to his ways. it was depressing. all the girls he went out with during our friendship preferred talking to me whenever we all hung out. it was crazy. none of them agreed with him politically but they weren't interested in talking politics with him anyway. he was cute, he honestly looked a little bit like me? I so desperately wanted to change him but I don't know why I bothered. he was drinking the koolaid and I couldn't have gotten him to try to walk a day in my shoes 

[Sergi91]

7 minutes ago, Ghiles said:

You're gross.

These lashings are bringing out some people's true colors and show that the Gaza genocide was a mere inconvenience for the Democrat cheerleaders, not something they actually cared about.

 

Oh please. I'm allowed to be upset as much as she is so don't try it with me. 

[Communion]

7 minutes ago, Komet said:

So you think her adopting a hard left stance on issues such as open borders and slashing the military would've given her the win or better numbers yesterday?

Genuinely annoying that Europeans whom championed center-right neoliberalism still have the gall to act like this  even as Trump preps for his inauguration in January.

 

It can't be dismissed 

how the emphasis on foreign wars drove home the idea that Dems were bad with the budget and were spending money on things elsewhere while Americans can't afford to buy groceries or gas. 

 

Yall wanted a neolib neocon alliance and you're not ready for the kind of isolationism that is about to hit. 

 

Even progressives should understand at this point any belief in making the US the world police with things like massive military aid to Europe is a cultural loser. 

 

One of Biden's last speeches listed this presidential achievements aa expanding NATO and putting military in the sea near China. Voters instead wanted cheap bread and gas. 

 

Americans now have to suffer cause Biden thought "Finland joining NATO" or whatever was meaningful to literally any American. 

[Bloo]

1 minute ago, on the line said:

I co-sign this.

 

Jill was a colossal failure, as well as the fear mongering from lefties on Gaza. Neither of those meaningfully affected the results. AT ALL so why are we still fighting about it? We all lost.

 

Y'all are the only ones mentioning Jill Stein.

[VOSS]

 

[Pikachoo]

my friend this morning (we're canadian):

"trump onee. im so happy"

 

me: "why happy?"

 

"trump is gonna win ? isn't that good?"

 

me: "no i wanted kamala to win lol"

 

"oh really why?"

 

"cause trump is against gay and trans people"

 

"oh wow i don't like that"

 

[Mike91]

4 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

Her going more left would not have helped anything. These results show the people want these right wing policies when it comes to immigration and the economy. 🤷

 

we are living in a right wing country. It's time to accept that reality. 

On immigration, yes. The economy is more complicated. Voters wants more progressive economic policy but at the same time they reject candidates that support it because they've been taught for so long that republicans are better for the economy, even though we've seen time and time again that they're not. 

 

It's a failure in messaging. We really need a candidate that articulates these points in a dumbed down manner that most Americans will understand. No more overeducated elites running the party for a while.

 

[Richie.Valdez]

Does anyone feel like the way the "woke movement" (in terms of the LGBTQ+ community at least) was handled by the democrat party played a big role in the turnout of certain demographics? 

 

I kinda feel like it did but idk how it could've been instead.. the country is just so divided and becoming less open-minded in general. 

[Chiidish]

1 minute ago, Pepo said:

So many people are about to have a sour reality check.

 

The good sis DEVOURED the shithead on national television so much that a second debate wasn't even warranted. Be serious 

Just because Dementia Don got Molly whopped does not mean she has Charisma to the point of overshadowing Donald's status as the white savior chosen by Jesus according to Evangelicals. 
 

Side note: it also didn't help that the media made it so he was always untouchable. Once we get through arguing amongst ourselves we need to have a real conversation about the general media as well as democratic messaging campaigns. HOW THE **** DID HE GET AWAY WITH HIS MENTAL DECLINE SO PUBLICLY AVAILABLE? WHY DIDNT WE DOUBLE DOWN ON AGE? WHAT THE ****

[Hex]

2 minutes ago, Bloo said:

Kamala: **runs a campaign to the right of Biden in 2020**

Liberals: "She lost because she was too left."

 

I swear, are we actually this incapable to identify the problem? Kamala literally bragged about wanting to build more of the Trump border wall than Trump. She ran a right-wing campaign and she decisively lost. Anyone thinking that isn't an issue should be ignored.

words have truly lost all meaning oh my god

[on the line]

3 minutes ago, Bamboo said:

This is basically my thoughts. Trump won in spite of an extremely horrible campaign. Kamala's campaign….i have many mixed thoughts on but I'm not 100% what I would change in hindsight. 

I think this is becoming increasingly clear. America has hard shifted right since Obama.

[Pikachoo]

this thread is the reason why democrats will have a hard time going forward. too much infighting. we just can't agree on anything.

[ClashAndBurn]

9 minutes ago, Orsay said:

I'm gonna kill myself. The vibes were off in this thread since for WEEKS you couldn't say Trump might win without getting downvoted to hell. But damn to lose the popular vote like this? What a ****** country Jesus

I said months ago that Biden would lose the popular vote when he bombed the debate. Got ridiculed and downvoted for even suggesting it was a possibility back then.

 

To see this now, with Kamala…. Knowing Biden would have been steamrolled even worse… it's kind of vindicating, but not even remotely in a good way.

 

I wanted so badly to have been wrong.

[WokeEqualist]

Palestine stans using this as a gotcha moment is so now not only is Palestine getting obliterated at a worse rate, but you and millions of people's rights will be nonexistent as well

[Pepo]

6 minutes ago, FrederickGa said:

this is a case for the FBI

 

There has been a tremendous right-wing shift and yet people here want to have us believe that a Sanders-like political scheme would have got more Dems to vote. Please.

Edited November 6 by Pepo

[Lil Mistee]

21 minutes ago, Communion said:

It should be concerning for Dems that the people who they gave massive fiscal support to from 2020 to 2022 largely stayed home because Dems then pulled back all of those policies from 2023 to 2024. 

 

It all seems so obvious in hindsight. 

 

Like of course Dems were gonna lose after Biden signed into law a bill that gave states permission to kick 15m people off Medicaid! Like what!

Kinda tea… oh communion let's become super progressives together. Maybe we can get into politics and legalize all drugs yasss

[FrederickGa]

Maybe it's LEFT going too far left putting the centrist to the right wing effectively?

 

That's my interpretation here.. the extreme right are lost cause but the centrists need catching up with left's progressiveness to gain votes