Cruel Summer Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, UnusualBoy said: This is so sad, I can't. ย I usually don't but she called me singing "we won, we won" and I was girl... Oh I'd reach through the phone and punch someone for that - I'm already tired of people in my workplace just saying "good morning" because it is not, in fact, a good morning!
nadiamendell Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: But sis, the voters that turned out said she was STILL too liberal, despite that Most Americans don't know wtf the word "liberal" means. They think it means that she caused inflation and nothing more, be real.ย 2
Devin Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Chiidish said: Kamala is NOT charismatic. A random mid level toastmasters member has more charisma than her. Walz easilyyyyy had more charisma than her as a midwesternerย ย l ย the fact u think walz is more charismatic or even better speaker than kamala is diabolical. ย this why our country is so f*cked up.ย 6 1
Malkuth Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Some of these results are INSANE. ย LATINO men going for Trump. 18-24 white men going for Trump. If you're a white teenage boy, it's normal to be right-wing now. The RICH going for Kamala? ย I just am so shocked. The rules for my whole life were the rich voted Republican. That teenage boys were left-wing. Maybe Republicans won't be so anti-immigration if they start doing better with Latinos. ย I honestly thought the demographic changes would mean Democrats would win every election forever eventually. But maybe not. ย I think Democrats have to get rid of all the "gender is a social construct" stuff. Most straight men don't like being told they're the same as a girl. 1 1
FrederickGa Posted November 6 Posted November 6 This is probably it? ~10M probably sit this one out? ย I thought the early reports were saying record breaking turnout 1
Sergi91 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 This lady got her wish. Now she doesn't get to complain later about how awful Trump is with Palestinians.ย ย ย 2 1 1
Lose My Breath Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, nadiamendell said: Most Americans don't know wtf the word "liberal" means. They think it means that she caused inflation and nothing more, be real.ย I know that, you know that, but THEY don't know that, and those who said that are the ones that matter tbh 1
Komet Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Bloo said: The fruits of Kamala's stupid decision to focus on Liz Cheney and having Republicans in her cabinet. ย If you told the Leftists in this thread to stfu when we said that the moderate Republican voters didn't exist and Kamala should shift course, please internalize this and have the decency to be open to listening to us next time. ย ย So you think her adopting a hard leftย stance on issues such as open borders and slashing the military would've given her the win or better numbers yesterday? 1
Vermillion Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Pikachoo said: democrats need their own version of a trump populist. Sanders could have been it but he's 'too socialist'. someone like Fetterman. ย but at the end of the day, it's the economy stupid. The problem is the distance from the primary to the general and the stake-out positions that need to be made damaging them upon making the general. If they try to pander to the middle it'll depress base turn-out subsequently.
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted November 6 ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Chemist said: ย Shifts like these are just an outright rejection of the Democratic Party. The entire DNC needs to be fired. 4
Orsay Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I'm gonna kill myself. The vibes were off in this thread since for WEEKS you couldn't say Trump might win without getting downvoted to hell. But damn to lose the popular vote like this? What a ****** country Jesus 5
Pikachoo Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Sander's message of drug costs being too high actually resonated with people. ย go back to that message. how the rich own all the wealth. anyone can get behind that. 4
TaggedGalaxy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I'm in my anarchist era I hope Trump burns everything to the ground I want to see egg on the face of the people who voted for him when they lose health insurance and social security. ย Spoiler The rational side of me doesn't want to see that happen since I have family and friends who will be negatively affected by that ย 1
KingWitch Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Chiidish said: Kamala is NOT charismatic. A random mid level toastmasters member has more charisma than her. Walz easilyyyyy had more charisma than her as a midwesternerย ย l Yeap i saw this at their first rally in PA, Waltz has more charisma than her. She's too rehearsed.ย 1
Chiidish Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Also it's not specifically the economy as the sole downfall. It's the messaging on the policies and the choices of who they chose to court this election. Proudly pivoting to Republican-light only made people completely shift right ward and not celebrating any of the objective Biden wins (he literally salvaged this **** economy and they didn't talk about it) ย we went right on immigration right on war (Mind you Dems are supposed to be the anti-war party) ย The messaging about unity and both sides when this country is so polarized and then further polarizing your own base by widening the divide between leftists and liberals as the entire rest of the country embraces right wing christonatonalism. Stupidity.ย 2
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 Just now, Lose My Breath said: I know that, you know that, but THEY don't know that, and those who said that are the ones that matter tbh I think that's the point everyone is trying to explain. Liberalism is such an empty political alignment now.ย 4 1
Raspberries Posted November 6 Posted November 6 25 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said: 8. Mass Deportation (New) +2,700,000. I don't know if this will actually happen due to budget + logistics. He's promising it, but he has no logistical plan to do it as of yet. The rest is already in motionย
FameFatale Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, FrederickGa said: This is probably it? ~10M probably sit this one out? ย I thought the early reports were saying record breaking turnout That's what I was saying earlier. The numbers make zero sense. All the enthusiasm and lines and groundwork. You're telling me she got that much less? ย ELECTION INTERFERENCE. STOP THE COUNT!
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 Just now, Azulito said: Shifts like these are just an outright rejection of the Democratic Party. The entire DNC needs to be fired. I had made a prediction a few months ago that Trump was going to win Texas by a larger margin than 2020 and it's because we saw the writing on the wall with the Latino community in RGV in 2020.ย 2 1
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Hillary 2016: I love neocons Biden 2020: I will listen to sanders on some policy concessions because I saw what he does for the base kamala 2024: I love neocons ย chat guess which of these won 4
TrymeB Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) Last thoughts on Trumps victory ย "When a clown moves into a palace,ย he doesn't become a king.ย The palace becomes a circus"ย ย Welcome to the MAGA Circus 2.0. Like all sequels, it will be a bigger flop than the original.ย Edited November 6 by TrymeB 3
Lose My Breath Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Raspberries said: I don't know if this will actually happen due to budget + logistics. He's promising it, but he has no logistical plan to do it as of yet. The rest is already in motionย It probably wont, but that is what he ran on
stars Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Kamala's concession speech is going to make me so emotional, I hate this so much. 1
Vermillion Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Komet said: So you think her adopting a hard leftย stance on issues such as open borders and slashing the military would've given her the win or better numbers yesterday? Again this framing is gaslighting and not helpful.ย ย The Dems need to increase base turnout while not turning off enough of the middle. Neither happened. 1
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