Cheers Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said: Maybe this has been discussed already but I cannot go through this thread without the site crashing. The country clearly moved to the right HARD. Whether it was the economy, immigration, transphobia, etc it doesn't matter, Americans are clearly becoming more conservative. What does that mean for democrats moving forward? I think everyone can foresee them moving to the right as well but clearly that won't matter, so if they won't win anything in the foreseeable future, should they try to run more left leaning candidates to try to move the electorate back to the left if ever so slightly? I feel like Dems are more fickle than Republicans are. I can see them jumping ship after these results. Republicans are more loyal. Again, desperate rebrand is needed. White charming guy with a country twang will need to be the face of the Democratic Party. Hopefully he can make people laugh too. 1
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 Just now, Cloröx said: Gaza already in shamble under Biden admin not Trump you can't change that fact, the inability for you guys to acknowledge this issue is one of the main reasons people abandoning Democrats and it will continue to cost Democrats in 2028, 2032, 2036, 2040........ The instability in Gaza was enhanced by Trump’s friendship with Netanyahu and his poor governing policies there. But where the Democrats failed is by not highlighting this. 5 1
Ghiles Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 hours ago, WildAmerican said: we're never gonna have a woman president Why do you all want a woman to be the next war criminal in charge so badly The position of US president will always be tainted with the blood of millions of innocent people around the world Let's leave it for old white men so we can continue to blame everything on them At least until the US is no longer so hegemonic and evil
Fleahive Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Is there any chance that Biden would pack the Supreme Court or would that be considered immoral? Would you be for it or against it?
Vrx. Posted November 6 Posted November 6 This seems to follow the overwhelming trend globally for leaning conservative. Europe is also on the chopping block. I think until the global economy is fixed everyone will continue to lean conservative and vote for their own pockets and whoever seems to be promising them cash.
MAKSIM Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Relampago. said: The way the genocide did not matter in this election at all and y'all are still arguing about it Right. This elections was won and lost on the economy. Palestine was not why Latino voters shifted 30 points. 2
Cloröx Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, superglowy said: Well as you said, your rallying against Biden/Kamala was your unfortunate burden you had to carry to oppose the genocide. Now Trump is in, I'm sure you won't mention the genocide again unless it's in a 'Biden/Harris' context. Excited for you to prove me wrong. I always dragging Trump for years, the only difference is I was rooting for Biden to make changes before but he ended up being just another trash. Now do you hear my frustration and why are you trying to discredit it?
Adrian14 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Democrats have to go back to being conservative as they were until 2008, it is the only way they win. 1 1
FrederickGa Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Cloröx said: Gaza already in shamble under Biden admin not Trump you can't change that fact, the inability for you guys to acknowledge this issue is one of the main reasons people abandoning Democrats and it will continue to cost Democrats in 2028, 2032, 2036, 2040........ And TRUMP will probably erase it on the map.. the cause you're fighting will be moot when there's nothing left to fight The 3rd Party voting didnt do anything hun but convincing themselves that they matter Edited November 6 by FrederickGa
Hex Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Biggest takeaway for me here is at the end of the day, right, left, middle... most people ONLY care about themselves. And not care how it will impact people they don't share any identity with. That and most Americans are incredibly stupid. 2
Chiidish Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rep2000 said: This is truly serving "after Hitler, our turn" omg Y'all are truly delusional since the only reset right now is the deconstruction of the whole American government BY TRUMP. Not necessarily. They have 2 years to get this irreversible damage done before Midterms provide another opportunity to by us insurance. The only bad thing is that he will surround himself with yes men this time (yes I'm aware of project 2025 and the quite literal reset to the early 1900s). We are at the mercy of how incompetent and/or lazy and/or divided his administration is also the implication that I'm asking for some sort of version of leftist fascism rather than just more decisive organization and seizing of power from the death woes of the liberal leaning Democratic Party is silly. At the least it's telling people to build little communities starting local to protect themselves, and the best it's a much more progressive version of the Democratic Party that could maybe rebuild ground with MANY of the demographics they've systematically disparaged and discouraged. Not sure what is wrong with that. im willfully just deciding to not give in to the idea that this country is totally lost even though they've given me every reason to believe that it is. Edited November 6 by Chiidish 1
Capris Groove Posted November 6 Posted November 6 28 minutes ago, Azulito said: This isn't really true. Cubans are not a big voting bloc outside of Florida and Venezuelans aren't a big voting bloc anywhere. That means Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are voting for Trump. He got nearly 30% of the vote in the Bronx… this has nothing to do with people fleeing dictatorships. Of course. I feel like the internet since 2014 has convinced people that all POC are left-leaning and will vote accordingly. Newsflash: they're not! I've lived in Mexico, it's a highly conservative country and its men are as sexist, homophobic, and (believe this) racist as any deep south state, if not more.
superglowy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Cloröx said: I always dragging Trump for years, the only difference is I was rooting for Biden to make changes before but he ended up being just another trash. Now do you hear my frustration and why are you trying to discredit it? I guess after 8 years of the same damn grating song you just learn to tune it out.
Yog Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Truly an abomination time for the US and I'm frankly TERRIFIED of what's to come, god help is all 😔 But I'm not gonna fall apart just yet, because the next two years and gonna prove once again how non qualified the GOP AGAIN then we'll make a comeback in 2026.
Adrian14 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Ruth Bader es la culpable de que los republicanos tengan mayoria en la corte Obama la quizo reemplazar y no quiso 2
gimmelaugh Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I kind of blame Joe Biden above anything else. He should've never run for reelection. All it did was waste time and paint the Democratic party in the negative light because of his incoherent speeches and general unpopularity. Democrats deserved to have an actual primary which would give them the chance to create actual hype behind their candidate and their campaign. 2 3
Ghiles Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Relampago. said: The way the genocide did not matter in this election at all and y'all are still arguing about it In some places it did
DevilsRollTheDice Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, MonsterJohn said: but white people are indeed evil because they are overwhelmingly voting for trump and are majority ??? POCs being scape goat as usual when it's white people who inflicts the worst things onto the world Two things can be true. White voters (women AND men) were the only demographics Harris improved upon. She even improved in non educated white voters which genuinely shocked me. Not trying to downplay the fact that Trump wins a majority of the white vote but his performance improved in every single minority group. He won a majority of Latino men. Like with white poeple, we need to be realistic about what's happening and how it affects our ability to win elections. Pretending that it isn't a major issue just means more losing.
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 8 minutes ago, 45seconds said: To lose? The situation we're facing here is that men of this Gen Z are conservative. The exit poll says that 40% of the entire electorate thought Kamala was too liberal. Could you imagine Bernie? It would be a massacre. Yall have to stop conflating hating condescending elitists with conservatism
Triton Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just wipe the slate clean, get a younger white man like Jon Ossof prepared for the next election. Stop with the formalities and bite back with some personality. It's clear people don't care about how horrible someone is. Focus on being stern, no BS attitude, lie if needed (given how easily manipulated people are) to get more of the family focused groups. 1
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