Cruel Summer Posted November 6 Posted November 6 The "too liberal" thing is a facade. In the minds of the people saying it, it means "too focused on liberal social issues" and it's likely coming from the same demographics (largely young men) that drove Trump's victory. It should not be misinterpreted as the American electorate being against leftist fiscal, economic, foreign, and healthcare policy. 1 1 1
Chemist Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Vermillion said: I lean more leftist than liberal, but some leftists honestly do their own ideology a disservice with these takes. I can guarantee that 0%—absolutely zero percent—had fracking in mind when they went to the polls. 1
Touchdown Posted November 6 Posted November 6 fffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK 1 2
Phaunzie Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 2 minutes ago, FameFatale said: Well, I'm awake after 3 hours of some sleep. I'm upset and a little confused and I have been through every emotion. Girl, me too. Moo Deng saw the signs and we should have listened to her teachings. The way white & Latino women gassed Kamala up, only to do a sudden switch to Trump. Nasty work. Edited November 6 by Phaunzie
anti-bitch Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Epica said: Ivanka Trump is coming Maybe she could tell her dad to leave women and the gays alone?
Cheers Posted November 6 Posted November 6 56 minutes ago, khalyan said: Someone last night in the chat made a really good point. Young voters have Joe Rogan and so many other influencers that are very active in politics. They are discussing politics on every possible platform in a way that is accessible to them. There is not this same system set up for Democrats. Part of this has to do with how Republicans have turned their political party into an aesthetic and a personality trait. Democrats don't really do that. Look at how Trump supporters are proud to be Republicans and have their signs all over their house and cars. Democrats need a rebrand 2
on the line Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Pepo said: I would call them hypocrites, not "fellow leftists". That's quite kind of you. I'd be banned if I really said how I feel 1
Popular Post Anthinos Posted November 6 Popular Post Posted November 6 This right-wing slide is happening worldwide and I think social media is playing a big part in it. We're all talking about Joe Rogan here, but it's not just Rogan. Adin Ross, Andrew Tate, etc. Right-wing influencers are also very popular on a local level, in individual countries. Social media is controlled by the right. What are we supposed to do about it? I have the feeling that we are currently fighting against the wind. Personally, I'm going to withdraw for the next few years and stop consuming political media and news. I know we progressives need to unite and fight globally but I don't have the strength anymore. 9 6
Devin Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Relampago. said: Dems need to stop being polite btw. I think we should just go all in on dragging billionaires/celebrities/corporations, and don't be nice and tidy about it. Call them fat pigs and horse faced losers. Like, take the gloves fully off and drag these people hard. Call them the scum of the earth. Start tapping into people's brains and make them realize these rich people are not benefitting you. dems are held to different standard than reps. reps can go spew hate and no one bats an eye (or find it entertaining). if dems do the slightest controversial thing society holds them accountable and weaponize it to lose the election. 1
Adrian14 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Nothing will happen with equal marriage because even Republicans voted for the law to respect marriage. Maybe abortion will not be prohibited nationally.
DevilsRollTheDice Posted November 6 Posted November 6 It is crazy that leftist discourse literally didn't matter at all. Both liberals and leftists thought Palestine/in-fighting was far more important than it ended up being. Liberals thought it would cost us close contests and certain leftists thought their protest votes would push Dems left. Instead we learned that the country is much further right than we thought, Kamala wouldn't have won without the entire third party support (including the conservative ones), and that the reliable Dem voters that defected didn't do so over Dems not being progressive enough. They WANTED conservative policy. A true lashing for all of us! 6 1
ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Relampago. said: Dems need to stop being polite btw. I think we should just go all in on dragging billionaires/celebrities/corporations, and don't be nice and tidy about it. Call them fat pigs and horse faced losers. Like, take the gloves fully off and drag these people hard. Call them the scum of the earth. Start tapping into people's brains and make them realize these rich people are not benefitting you. Billionaires, celebs and corporations are literally their base right now. Harris had hundreds of MILLIONS more from large dollar donors in donations. Now that they have to go back to kissing Trump's ass again, that might change. But the Democrats have hemorrhaged any hope of having an organic grassroots base. 1
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted November 6 ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 14 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Sadly they'll double and triple down. "Too liberal" is what the exit polls are saying so… there's only one possible reaction to that. I'd love to know what was seen as too liberal because Kamala largely avoided all social issues (minus abortion, which mostly won last night). It's been said in here countless times, but Democrats really do need to start running people that are able to defend their policies instead of people that try to run away from them. 1 3
Vrx. Posted November 6 Posted November 6 30 minutes ago, Jay07 said: Is it religion? Were they voting for abortion? Is it machismo? They didn't want a female president? What? 30 points swing in 4 years is shocking. Sadly, lots of Latinos and other minorities swung because they don't believe a woman should be president. 2 2
superglowy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Adrian14 said: Nothing will happen with equal marriage because even Republicans voted for the law to respect marriage. Maybe abortion will not be prohibited nationally. And Kavanaugh and Barrett said Abortion Rights was "settled law". How are some of you still so ******* DUMB?!?
Thesedays Posted November 6 Posted November 6 7 minutes ago, Khal said: If the exit polls are true and Harris was viewed as being too "liberal" (lol, whatever that means) and we already know for sure that being a black woman was already working against her, why are we mentioning Michelle, Oprah, Marianne? Literally any Dem will be seen as too "liberal". Obama was seen as way too "liberal" and he won.
Navyofbadgals Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Chemist said: I lean more leftist than liberal, but some leftists honestly do their own ideology a disservice with these takes. I can guarantee that 0%—absolutely zero percent—had fracking in mind when they went to the polls. I mean Adam McKay is as superficial as it comes when it comes to political analyses.. just look at Don't Look Up I certainly think that further demonization of the left flank of the party isn't helping them, but if half your country is obsessed with a fascist bigoted felon.. you have a much bigger problem on your hands than fracking that isn't solved by "we are the other option!"
anti-bitch Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Adrian14 said: Nothing will happen with equal marriage because even Republicans voted for the law to respect marriage. Maybe abortion will not be prohibited nationally. Funny how "nothing will happen" is probably the best case scenario we could hope for the next 4 years. Maybe Trump could just chill out and not do much anything. 1
FameFatale Posted November 6 Posted November 6 9 minutes ago, khalyan said: We should have known at this point. I know everyone is laughing at this because it seems crazy, but in reality this is truly showing America's shift. We went from NPR, true crime shows, and pop culture podcasts/media to this in a span of a few years. I listen to right-wing media to get a full circle view of everything and I can see how people get pulled in. I really worry about the next 4 years and the streams of misinformation that will come out. 7 1
Bamboo Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) Credit where credit is due - underperforming Clinton with a nearly net neutral approval rating is impressive. Edited November 6 by Bamboo 1
Cloröx Posted November 6 Posted November 6 6 minutes ago, superglowy said: Trump won! Palestine is saved! You should be thrilled. Did I miss the news that Biden-Harris stop the genocide?
FrederickGa Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2020 Elections did 150M+, is 2024 going to end with same number? I thought there was a record breaking turnout.. maybe for first time voters but not for long time Dems? It could explain the BOMBage
Witch Posted November 6 Posted November 6 This is a literal nightmare. At this point I don't even care about what the Dems did or didn't do wrong or what Kamala should or shouldn't have done or who did or didn't vote. It literally doesn't matter because if these people get their way (and there's really nothing stopping them at this point) then it's very likely there aren't going to be any more fair elections in the future. Just thinking of the geopolitical implications is terrifying and it just makes me wonder what the end game is. I just don't see a way out of this for America that isn't catastrophic and just imagining the possible scenarios is horrifying. 2
Ms. Togekiss Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Maybe this has been discussed already but I cannot go through this thread without the site crashing. The country clearly moved to the right HARD. Whether it was the economy, immigration, transphobia, etc it doesn't matter, Americans are clearly becoming more conservative. What does that mean for democrats moving forward? I think everyone can foresee them moving to the right as well but clearly that won't matter, so if they won't win anything in the foreseeable future, should they try to run more left leaning candidates to try to move the electorate back to the left if ever so slightly?
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