ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, on the line said: One big takeaway for me is just how insignificant 3rd party voters ended up being in this election. Like truly not even a dent in the final numbers or results. Β A lot of the fear mongering from the far left just didn't materialize in reality. Really funny how your take is that the left is what cost her the election while simultaneously being too weak and insignificant to have an impact. Β Cute! And predictable! Β 3 5
anti-bitch Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: After reading up a little, it really seems as simple as people not showing up. Turnout for Democrats was so bad that the margin in New York isn't even +11. You can't rely on Gen Z for sh**Β
brutal Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Redstreak said: Like **** if Dems are gonna be labeled as too progressive while giving prime time to Liz Cheney then maybe actually run like a progressive and get your own base out That base you speak of will find 1 thing that progressive does wrong and stay home again while saying "there's nothing to vote for".Β 3 3
Sheep Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I'm not playing the neolib election rigging game ever again. Now that there's no fascist plot to thwart being dangled over our heads reality is setting in that 20,000 children have been murdered by my tax dollars. Β @CommunionΒ was right. I regret everything. No more ******* compromising and no more voting for bad candidates. It doesn't work.Β 13
Harrier Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Chemist said: Not Ann Selzer being 17 points wrong.Β Another career down the drain Β Β Imagine if the IA poll would have been Trump+15 Β The meltdowns on Saturday would have been HUGE but at least the shock would have been less Β I saw some Trumpies on reddit saying the poll was flawed because she oversampled never Trump Republicans and didn't correct for it and well.... they were right! Ann's reputation is completely gone now
Lose My Breath Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, brutal said: That base you speak of will find 1 thing that progressive does wrong and stay home again while saying "there's nothing to vote for".Β You're 100% correct.Β The most fickle group ever. Β No joke, I may flip Republican just so I can try and find the candidates that best fit my needs since they'll be in office anyway 2
RoseBud Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Β The world needs to cut the rope and let the US drift off on its own.Β Β 3
Princess Aurora Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Why do I feel like this is the beginning of a horror movie?Β 4 1
45seconds Posted November 6 Posted November 6 How is the house looking? God if it's Trifecta it's actually over.Β
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Jay07 said: The thing is, Joe Rogan and everyone else in that ecosystem discuss politics but only peripherally, mostly it's sexism, conspiracy theories, whining about wokeism and bullshit about masculinity and going to the gymΒ Β I don't think a purely liberal/progressive media ecosystem with frank discussions about policy without those hooks of hatred would get the same traction. People don't have the attention span.Β Thatβs why it works.Β Β Teenage boys are overall not interested in politics. They listen to these right wing influencers because they think itβs cool and want to hear about what they can do at the gym, what they can do to βbe coolβ. And then, they get hit with the politics of it ingrained into those sources.Β 8
Navyofbadgals Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Blaming the left, blaming pro-Palestinian voters hell even this time the 3rd party voters isn't going to get people any closer together, nor is it the (main) reason why dems lost so hard. Genuine hard think on how you're going to counter that cult and not just saying we're not them or we want a republican at our table isn't going to cut it anymoreΒ Β 11
Mirtilo Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I hate that this election's result already has an impact in my country's economy.
Relampago. Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Princess Aurora said: Why do I feel like this is the beginning of a horror movie?Β If it makes you feel better, the beginning was 2016 and we're actually nearing the end. Β Whatever that means for us, idk. Β 3 1
Vermouth Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Relampago. said: Tea, it feels like the 1980s again Β Afraid it's way worse. Β At least in the 80's China wasn't a big deal, and at least everyone knew where the line was between East and West and there was an (uneasy) stability between them.Β Β We now have a revengeful Russia led by someone who sees the fall of the Soviet Union as a personal slur, and its recreation as his life's work, and a powerful and not benign ( I'm being generous), expansive China. Β Oh and a USA that's disappeared up its own rear end. Β It's way more 1935/8 than 1985/88. Edited November 6 by Vermouth 4
heckinglovato Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Β 1 minute ago, Sheep said: @CommunionΒ was right. I regret everything. No more ******* compromising and no more voting for bad candidates. It doesn't work.Β Β now we sit and wait for the others here to make this realizationΒ 3
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 Hasan and Ziwe are the best we got, and Hasan is problematic and Ziwe is MIA.Β
aquababy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Chemist said: Not Ann Selzer being 17 points wrong.Β Another career down the drain Β Β Imagine if the IA poll would have been Trump+15 Β The meltdowns on Saturday would have been HUGE but at least the shock would have been less Β I enjoyed the false hope at least Β Β when those VA numbers started coming in I knew she was dead wrong though and it was an early night for me Β
GraceRandolph Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: You're 100% correct.Β The most fickle group ever. Β No joke, I may flip Republican just so I can try and find the candidates that best fit my needs since they'll be in office anyway Apparently every Dem is fickle, and we should all be Republicans according to you
Adrian14 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 They even had the opportunity to kill him and even in that they failed hahaha, they deserved the defeat 1 5
Johnny Cash Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Redstreak said: Like **** if Dems are gonna be labeled as too progressive while giving prime time to Liz Cheney then maybe actually run like a progressive and get your own base out But that's too radical and doesn't work!! (even though they never tried it.) Instead they should repeat the same losing strategy of focusing on identity politics while pandering to the right, it will surely work the third time 2
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, brutal said: That base you speak of will find 1 thing that progressive does wrong and stay home again while saying "there's nothing to vote for".Β Well let's try it first, because the last time a candidate promised hope and change they won by a landslide. Hillary ran on nothing, Biden lucked out with Covid, and Kamala ran on nothing
Princess Aurora Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Relampago. said: If it makes you feel better, the beginning was 2016 and we're actually nearing the end. Β Whatever that means for us, idk. Β I mean this is probably the sequelΒ
Navyofbadgals Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Can the DNC at least not try their hardest to kill a new voice in the next dem primaries for the sake of the same person in a different font again Β 1 1
45seconds Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Navyofbadgals said: Blaming the left, blaming pro-Palestinian voters hell even this time the 3rd party voters isn't going to get people any closer together, nor is it the (main) reason why dems lost so hard. Genuine hard think on how you're going to counter that cult and not just saying we're not them or we want a republican at our table isn't going to cut it anymoreΒ Β Well the far left certainly didn't help but she would have still lost anyways.Β Β 1
Adrian14 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Joe Biden will regret how little he has left of life if he did not run in 2016 Β 1
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