heckinglovato Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, on the line said: Your reply confirms we won't be seeing those same posts raging on Trump. Thanks for confirming your true interests. My people are getting shredded to pieces (funded by the US) and you think I'll stop the criticism once Trump takes office because....? ย The way you people view Arabs/Palestinians as nothing but some sort of heckling inconvenience in the way of your blue victories is SHOWING 6
Relampago. Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Chemist said: Another 4 years of Europe whacking the US. Deservedly so ย ย ย There's not going to be a Europe once Trump sells them to Putin ย
Breathe On Moi Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Navyofbadgals said: He really said mass deportation even for legal migrants and half of the Latino demographic thought it wasn't about them and cared more about the price of their eggs which trump will fail to lower. how do you fix stupidity that goes so far that people trust a felon over any well respected economist out there ย I'm reaching my level of anger where I say **** it, let it all happen, let them see for themselves even if I suffer along with them. they did this.ย 3
Komet Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Navyofbadgals said: He really said mass deportation even for legal migrants and half of the Latino demographic thought it wasn't about them and cared more about the price of their eggs which trump will fail to lower. how do you fix stupidity that goes so far that people trust a felon over any well respected economist out there ย Like, how do reason with people like this? ย I guess one option is you don't and you nominate some populist that will spew yet unseen levels of unrealistic unattainable bullshit?ย 1
Cruel Summer Posted November 6 Posted November 6 After reading up a little, it really seems as simple as people not showing up. Turnout for Democrats was so bad that the margin in New York isn't even +11.
Clorรถx Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Katy is now having 100% bad record endorsing a losing candidate, take notes Democrat send her to Republican as trojan horseย 4
aquababy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I just can't get over how Selzer was right on point the last two cycles in favor of Trump despite going against the polling consensus, but now she did the same thing in favor of dems but completely flopped ย
Erreur2 La Nature Posted November 6 Posted November 6 This is crazy. I was convinced Americans learnt from their mistakes and could not re-elect Trump. I would have never imagined that y'all would still support this monster. America is the biggest joke in this worldย 2 1
ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 11 minutes ago, Chemist said: ย THEY ARE BLAMING WALZ ย They are NEVER going to learn. This party truly deserves to rot ย ย This is why I feel like Shapiro 2028 is inevitable. Even though I believe she would have lost even more with him. The oppo research (especially the murder coverup) would have been an enormous drag on the ticket. 1
ATRL Moderator feelslikeadream Posted November 6 ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 Honestly, this is the logical outcome of a political system in which members of Congress are allowed to trade stocks, super PACs funnel special interest money to politicians, businesses are recognized as "people" under the law, etc. ย The electorate is just as greedy and self-interested as the politicians they're voting for. It's clear that the American ethos of individualism has warped into a profound selfishness among its citizens and I honestly don't see how it will change. That's capitalism for youย 14
superglowy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Shinning said: SAY ITย LOUDER! White people make it clear time and time again. They do NOT want minorities as equals. It's still a ******* kick in the teeth to have the minorities co-sign it though? Fighting and championing for their voices and their rights only for them to piss it away or worse, decide they will vote to take away other minorities and groups voices and rights.ย Edited November 6 by superglowy 3 1
Lose My Breath Posted November 6 Posted November 6 18 minutes ago, Parachutes said: ย Yeah if this was people's takeaway from her campaign despite her intentionally pandering to centrists and moderate republicans then idkโฆ. ย You can't do accurate exit polls on people who don't even vote. ย She was down 15 million votes from Biden.ย The democrats suck, and didn't show up 5
ttsmu Posted November 6 Posted November 6 12 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said: Claudia Sheinbaum, I hope you're ready for this annoying manchild in the White House for 4 years (or forever, depending on how the cult acts as soon as he takes power) I'm really sad. I really was hoping Kamala to win this elections. Imagine having two women as president of Mexico and USA working together. ย Trump is a big BIG problem for Mexico and the world. 1 1
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 9 minutes ago, Redstreak said: This is also the problem when you run with nothing concrete, people can paint you as anything. Like I'm still trying to figure out what an "opportunity economy" even is Like **** if Dems are gonna be labeled as too progressive while giving prime time to Liz Cheney then maybe actually run like a progressive and get your own base out 3
truthteller Posted November 6 Posted November 6 the way he will just wait for the Feds to cut 50bps for the stocks to skyrocket and claim all improvements under his term 3
XDNA Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Bamboo said: WHO do Dems even nominate going forward? They need a charismatic populist. No one sticks out in Dem leadership as filling that role. Especially because they will likely want to nominate a white man. Scary times ahead. They better start grooming Beshear.ย 1
Lose My Breath Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Breathe On Moi said: I'm reaching my level of anger where I say **** it, let it all happen, let them see for themselves even if I suffer along with them. they did this.ย I feel awful saying it, but I agree..ย I mean they voted for the policy, let them reap the benefits of what they voted for.... ย ย 2
on the line Posted November 6 Posted November 6 One big takeaway for me is just how insignificant 3rd party voters ended up being in this election. Like truly not even a dent in the final numbers or results. ย A lot of the fear mongering from the far left just didn't materialize in reality. 3
Navyofbadgals Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Breathe On Moi said: I'm reaching my level of anger where I say **** it, let it all happen, let them see for themselves even if I suffer along with them. they did this.ย I will be enjoying the stories of maga fools getting it thrown back in their face. You get what you asked for ย I feel sorry for the people with functioning brains affected though ย ย 1
Chemist Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Not Ann Selzer being 17 points wrong.ย Another career down the drain ย ย Imagine if the IA poll would have been Trump+15 ย The meltdowns on Saturday would have been HUGE but at least the shock would have been less ย 4
Jay07 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 11 minutes ago, khalyan said: Someone last night in the chat made a really good point. Young voters have Joe Rogan and so many other influencers that are very active in politics. They are discussing politics on every possible platform in a way that is accessible to them.ย ย There is not this same system set up for Democrats.ย The thing is, Joe Rogan and everyone else in that ecosystem discuss politics but only peripherally, mostly it's sexism, conspiracy theories, whining about wokeism and bullshit about masculinity and going to the gymย ย I don't think a purely liberal/progressive media ecosystem with frank discussions about policy without those hooks of hatred would get the same traction. People don't have the attention span.ย 2 3
Illuminati Posted November 6 Posted November 6 If Harris and Stein votes combined don't even come close to what Trump got, is it safe to assume that dems will shift even more to the right the next election cycle? (assuming there is one) ย Like who is there to cater for anymore among the left if the entire country shifted closer to hitler 2
Khal Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Cyanide said: ย Reposting my post in the other thread: ย it's just like 2016: the DNC provides no economic incentive, to improve people's lives in the swing states, and all Trump has to do is lie and blame immigrants for the woes that were caused by DNC economic failure. Dems are so out of touch, they think they can win by shaming people with their elitist civilty and identity politics. We live in an oligarchy in the US, not a legitimate political systemโฆ Our politicians are ruled by large corporations and their AIPAC handlers, unfortunately the choice was never our own. You all can blame this on Arab Americans who don't want to vote for the party that is CURRENTLY killing their loved ones back home, and you can blame it on the negligible amount of independent voters who don't just sit back and be complicit in this evil because of ~identity politics~ but it will continue to change NOTHING and we'll continue to end up exactly where we are now. At this point, our elite overlords have managed to completely alienate the working class from one another and we've completely lost the plot. Anyone could've seen this coming, but yasss brat! Coconut! BIPOC! ย ย โโ ย We will keep re-living this until we actually have strong democrat leaders with REAL policies, that serve the PEOPLE, not just mega corporations and AIPAC. I can't believe so many people are so blind to this ย So, I'm going to whataboutism here a bit, but everything you just stated from being out of touch, to using "identity politics" to AIPAC, to corporations- the republicans (the party who just handily beat the Dems) are guilty of this and more. So, why did it work out for them and not the Dems?
Navyofbadgals Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Clorรถx said: Katy is now having 100% bad record endorsing a losing candidate, take notes Democrat send her to Republican as trojan horseย Also endorsed a semi republican in LA and he lost.. she might as well go for it and put her curse to good use ย
TrymeB Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Why is this hitting me in waves? Ugh. Such a nightmare. Wonder how long it will take to process and accept.ย 3 1
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