Harrier Posted November 6 Posted November 6 13 minutes ago, Thickorita said: MSNBC scapegoating pronouns and trans people in sports I HATE libs Trump spent millions on that trans aliens ad and it may have proven to be effective, probably helped swing black and Latino men. The sooner everyone tunes the **** in to the fact that certain brand of woke politics is extremely toxic and a major problem for the broader left, the better. Its not a progressive vs liberals thing, because liberals do annoying idpol just as much if not more. It's why we are losing young men and a big reason being progressive or liberal has become so uncool and unmasculine. I love all our LGBTQ brothers and sisters and it doesn't mean abandoning them, but it does mean it's time to rethink the way we fight for their rights. Language policing needs to go out the door in favour of a simple message focusing on our humanity I'll add also that this a global problem we all need to face head on. Support for LGBT is dropping everywhere including in the most liberal parts of Europe. We need to reckon with this and sort our message the **** out 6 3
Badgalbriel Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Why are all the Ariana stans like this? Damn, girl. Give people a break, gee. 1
Prodigal Self Posted November 6 Posted November 6 18 minutes ago, Redstreak said: Like this is not an election where the country shifted right, this an election where Dems stayed home because what the **** was there to vote for Women in red states slowly dying while waiting for their baby to die inside of them Horrifying stuff if you ask me 1
Badgalbriel Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Harrier said: Trump spent millions on that trans aliens ad and it may have proven to be effective, probably helped swing black and Latino men. The sooner everyone tunes the **** in to the fact that certain brand of woke politics is extremely toxic and a major problem for the broader left, the better. Its not a progressive vs liberals thing, because liberals do annoying idpol just as much if not more. It's why we are losing young men and a big reason being progressive or liberal has become so uncool and unmasculine. I love all our LGBTQ brothers and sisters and it doesn't mean abandoning them, but it does mean it's time to rethink the way we fight for their rights. Language policing needs to go out the door in favour of a simple message focusing on our humanity THIS! 2
Vespertine Posted November 6 Posted November 6 8 minutes ago, makeme said: I'm not gonna spend my time complaining about black and Latino men when white men are showing up in mass for Trump. They are the root of the evil not the minority men. Okay, yes, but everyone already knew Trump was going to win white men. People have been sounding alarm bells about black and Latino men drifting towards Trump, but I saw a million identity-politics obsessed libs online screaming about how this wasn't true!!1!!1! (when it has been very obvious to many of us even just from anecdotal experience) Libs are going to keep losing if they don't put in the effort to understand why they're losing support from these men. 1
Red Velvet Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Losing the popular vote is still crazy to me. When was the last time that happened to democrats? Being down 20 million from Biden omg
HausOfPunk Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Jay07 said: To think that 24 hours ago I thought Ann was right, we would get our first female president, it would be the end of MAGA and Trump would be taken away in handcuffs and instead it was the end of democracy It still feels like a bad dream, I haven't slept at all. My posts here guessing who would sing the national anthem at Kamala's inauguration...I f*cking jinxed it guys. 1
Navyofbadgals Posted November 6 Posted November 6 The results are so scary like damn y'all need this country in shambles for like 5% to wake up and shift to dems cant save nearly half of the idiot folk, Florida becoming full on hitler HQ.. I feel sorry for some of you guys I really do. I'm going to need y'all to let others rot. See how they like realizing that they're not billionaires so trump won't care
GraceRandolph Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Red Velvet said: Losing the popular vote is still crazy to me. When was the last time that happened to democrats? Being down 20 million from Biden omg 2004
Bamboo Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I'm also wondering if incumbency is going to be a disadvantage for the foreseeable future. Both Trump and Biden2 Biden Reloaded the Re Up saw massive shifts away from them in the election following their first term. I wonder if the pattern will continue. 1
Jay07 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Achilles. said: I actually think this time around it's more about women and LGBT people rather than racial minorities. So much of the right wing's grievances these days are pride parades and Me Too and trans athletes and banning gay content from schools and minorities existing in movies and video games. Like, this all started with GamerGate. You have no idea how many straight dudes see one gay couple in a video game and flip the **** out. Like, they just don't want to see women or minorities in media at all. I have no idea how we begin to reverse this. 2
Psycho Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2028 gonna be Pete Buttigieg vs JD Vance and Pete will lose bigly 1
superglowy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) When Katy says '**** it' after all the flopping and sings at Trumps. Edited November 6 by superglowy 7
XDNA Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Achilles. said: I actually think this time around it's more about women and LGBT people rather than racial minorities. So much of the right wing's grievances these days are pride parades and Me Too and trans athletes and banning gay content from schools and minorities existing in movies and video games. Like, this all started with GamerGate. Agree, I can't tell ya'll how many times I've heard MAGA people through my work complain about trans and drag queens. The economy is a factor but so are other issues. I don't know how we'll move on from this.
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Prodigal Self said: Women in red states slowly dying while waiting for their baby to die inside of them Horrifying stuff if you ask me Most people just don't believe it, that's an edge case that's "not going to happen to me" how many times do we have to learn that "things will get worse" doesn't bring out votes
Parachutes Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Yeah if this was people's takeaway from her campaign despite her intentionally pandering to centrists and moderate republicans then idk…. 2 1
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted November 6 Author ATRL Moderator Posted November 6 Just now, Parachutes said: Yeah if this was people's takeaway from her campaign despite her intentionally pandering to centrists and moderate republicans then idk…. Pete made a point last cycle when he said that the right was going to say any Democrat is too liberal/too communist regardless of what they do. 9
K.O Posted November 6 Posted November 6 How long do we think trumps new coalition will last? Surely white men will turn on Latino and black men as soon as they start viewing them as competition? And if more Latinos and black individuals assimilate to the Republican Party won't this in theory cause white voters to leave the Republican Party isn't this what happened to the Democratic Party in the 70s? white flight theory?
Armani? Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Vespertine said: Okay, yes, but everyone already knew Trump was going to win white men. People have been sounding alarm bells about black and Latino men drifting towards Trump, but I saw a million identity-politics obsessed libs online screaming about how this wasn't true!!1!!1! (when it has been very obvious to many of us even just from anecdotal experience) Libs are going to keep losing if they don't put in the effort to understand why they're losing support from these men. Black men are 1pt different from 2020 in the national media exit poll 3
i spit on haters Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I'm stunned, gutted, angry and just trying to gather myself. We'll never recover from this and the damage that will be done. 7
Red Velvet Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Parachutes said: Yeah if this was people's takeaway from her campaign despite her intentionally pandering to centrists and moderate republicans then idk…. I doubt being "too liberal" has anything to do with her policies. She was probably too liberal by default by just being a woman and POC 2
GraceRandolph Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, HausOfPunk said: Moo Deng when I catch you!!! At least he warned us unlike Miss Seltzer 1 2
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