superglowy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said: Gurl, he barely defeated Trump when there was a literal global pandemic that Trump mishandled that was killing thousands of Americans. And Republican voters DIDNT CARE that Trump killed their loved ones by mishandling said Global pandemic. 1 1
Wicked Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Conservative is cool now among the youth. That needs to be fixed but nobody seems to know how to approach that 1
artc0cx Posted November 6 Posted November 6 The root cause from his victory is religion and misogyny of course, theres still many latinos and so who use religion to support their ideologies, when is America going to start progressing I wonder 3
GraceRandolph Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Relampago. said: ddd it really is a mess I know the rational explanation is that neoliberal policies didn't go far enough and pushed people to run to the right, but I fear that doesn't explain why like…. the ENTIRE western world is flying to the right, especially the youth. Like, what happened? Are people truly just that inherently racist and hateful that they'll throw everything and everyone under the bus for a quick buck? What triggered this rightward swing to THIS extent The only thing US culture really believes in is wealth. It's not surprising a lot of people resonate with conservatism. 2
superglowy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, anti-***** said: But I have some hope that this could spark a new Progressive movement, or at least the next primary could be trying to run from the left of Trump like in 2020. I see so many (young) people on Twitter being angry right now. This could grow into a movement. Oh yes, the Gen Z that was gonna come out in force this election. Yippee. 5
Achilles. Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said: will go down in history as a complete failure whose "achievements" will be erased by what comes next. After 40 years of MAGA SCOTUS, the achievements of evert Democrat and liberal court in the past century will be erased, so I guess they're all just complete failures. Spoiler Nobody will ever go there, but everything that's happened since Obama's presidency ended reflects poorly upon legacy. And yet he will unjustly remain incredibly personally popular for all time.
ShouldersSideways Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Harrier said: I'm not saying they should shift right for future elections, I've been saying that it was necessary for this election due to the massive hostility of the electorate. The fact that Harris held on to what she did given Bidens numbers in June, and the diabolical levels of dissatisfaction shown in the exit polling shows that she has done decently enough given the circumstances. This was a red wave year. I am hopeful that Trump doing a **** job will open up space for movement left, just like it did in the 2019/20 cycle. We will see how things look when we get there If 20 million people stayed home in part because of dissatisfaction with Biden and he wasn't even the nominee, I do think this would've been an even bigger blowout had he stayed in. In hindsight, we never stood a chance. 2
Bamboo Posted November 6 Posted November 6 13 minutes ago, Antisocialites said: why are dems trying to convince themselves that "everything's going to be alright" and coming up with unrealistic excuses and reasons instead of asking themselves the question of *why* and *how* Kamala has lost so many millions of votes? It is a stage of grief. People are scared of what a second Trump term looks like. Most of the people in this thread have had no effect on this campaign nor will they on future campaigns. I think everyone just needs a second to re-center and tell themselves it's going to be okay Then the post-mortem and re-strategizing can start. As for me, I have little faith in the Dem leadership to actually learn any of the right lessons from this. After 2016, they opted to put a weak candidate with Biden in 2020 who won in spite of already being relatively unpopular with the base. And then obviously 2024 had its own slew of unprecedented issues with selecting a candidate. I think most people are just trying to cope with the doom we've been fed about a second Trump term for their own sanity. I guess we see where we go now.
GraceRandolph Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Obama's legacy is looking worse and worse with each passing year.
heckinglovato Posted November 6 Posted November 6 7 minutes ago, on the line said: I've yet to see this energy for Trump from you. You're so one-sided and not even pretending to hide it sis. Quick: who's the current president and VP? I spent years dragging Trump here when he was president, but right now, the Democrats ****** around and found out (with genocide, amongst other things) 2 2
RoughOperator Posted November 6 Posted November 6 17 minutes ago, Antisocialites said: why are dems trying to convince themselves that "everything's going to be alright" and coming up with unrealistic excuses and reasons instead of asking themselves the question of *why* and *how* Kamala has lost aso many millions of votes? I think there's very little logic in why she herself lost, despite every reasoning we may try to adduce. It's much more visceral and thoughtless than we think, just like whenever there's so much disparity in elections. Misoginy, machism and tribalism also play a very big part this time around. .
Bamboo Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, ShouldersSideways said: If 20 million people stayed home in part because of dissatisfaction with Biden and he wasn't even the nominee, I do think this would've been an even bigger blowout had he stayed in. In hindsight, we never stood a chance. Yeah it's looking like this has less to do with Kamala and more to do with the Biden administration as a whole being deeply unpopular. Maybe a candidate with no ties to the admin could've won, maybe not. I agree looking at the results this was likely a lost cause.
anti-bitch Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Cheers said: Just saw a porn star I know irl celebrate Trump's win on their personal IG story. Why is everyone conservative now like wtf I feel like a lot of dudes don't take what Trump says seriously. They just think he's cool/funny and talking sh*t. That's what straight men do in their groups.
gagacasanova Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I've decided that I'm staying in bed today and possibly wreck the **** out of my liver. 4
Armani? Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Uncatena said: ? Gen Z Men still voted for Kamala despite Latino men shifting 17 points to the right 1
ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Harrier said: I'm not saying they should shift right for future elections, I've been saying that it was necessary for this election due to the massive hostility of the electorate. The fact that Harris held on to what she did given Bidens numbers in June, and the diabolical levels of dissatisfaction shown in the exit polling shows that she has done decently enough given the circumstances. This was a red wave year. I am hopeful that Trump doing a **** job will open up space for movement left, just like it did in the 2019/20 cycle. We will see how things look when we get there Trump winning the popular vote makes me less optimistic of this. I think people actually WANT Project 2025. Like… Morning Joe is fully blaming trans people right now. 1 1
Relampago. Posted November 6 Posted November 6 It's kinda weird to think that this is the end for the US lowkey. Full on embracing authoritarian tendencies. It's like, you gotta wonder how we'll progress ever because people just really seem opposed to it. But the old stuff just isn't working anymore, idk what to tell these people 1
Thickorita Posted November 6 Posted November 6 MSNBC scapegoating pronouns and trans people in sports I HATE libs 1 1
Cloröx Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Cheers said: And in staying home they're allowing the country to shift further right. congrats, Dems! Blaming those people doesn't solve the problem, put the blame on Biden-Harris admin just so Democrats won't repeat the same mistakes in the next election. 1 1 1
katykater Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Now I understand why my older than retirement age boss at work said: "Men are terrified by women outdoing them in school, at work,... like the men/boys almost lose relevancy." Trump wins because he targets the men/boys feeling weak by taking away women's rights, the incels by making sure that women have to take a man from streets on time before fertility goes down and start making babies for the Fatherland, less competition at work when the worth/value of a woman is based on how many kids she has made (the kids consuming her time to prevent her chasing a career like how the men could devote all their time),... 5 1
Breathe On Moi Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I literally just woke up and I have no idea what's going to happen to us. This is unbelievable. I feel like ppl really aren't grasping what he's going to do immigration wise and basic rights that we take for granted, literally how much is about to happen for the next 4 (?) years, I'm going to be so affected personally. There is no positive out of this, there's none, it's not even "over" In a joking ******* way, it's really ******* over. I'm spinning. 2
superglowy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 4 minutes ago, heckinglovato said: Quick: who's the current president and VP? I spent years dragging Trump here when he was president, but right now, the Democrats ****** around and found out (with genocide, amongst other things) Quick, a Trump Presidency plus House and Senate stops or slows down the Genocide how? Dont deflect with 'But Democrats!!!' You got the pound of flesh you wanted and said it was due to Gaza, so tell me now how that gets better. Edited November 6 by superglowy 2 1
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