Harrier Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Jay07 said: Yeah, I think you're right. America is fundamentally very conservative, especially when things go bad (economy or immigration crisis) and especially when there is a gigantic apparatus feeding misinformation to low propensity voters. I kept hearing young guys saying they were going to get drafted to go to war if Harris got electedย I just don't know what the way forward is, this was a complete repudiation of Harris and her campaign which was completely centered around courting right leaning independents which it turns out, were never going to vote for her anyway. What the hell are we gonna do now? There's no doubt that the 'court right leaning independents' strategy failed spectacularly. The problem is... what else could she have done? There are not enough Stein votes out there to make a difference if she'd moved on Gaza. The polls say she was viewed as too liberal anyway. Trump ran a bumbling, wacky campaign and had an awful last week. She won the debate and made few mistakes overall. This was just too insurmountable this year, unless there had been a primary that nominated a different person, that's the truth of it. So - again - it's Biden's fault for not allowing that 4
WildAmerican Posted November 6 Posted November 6 i hate that i have to say this but at least there won't be any widescale violence nowย 1
Mordecai Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Does Kamala still have a career in politics after this? ย She's still quite young by US political standards, what usually happens to presidential nominees that lose?
GraceRandolph Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Mordecai said: Does Kamala still have a career in politics after this? ย She's still quite young by US political standards, what usually happens to presidential nominees that lose? She's 100% done
americanlife Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Mordecai said: Does Kamala still have a career in politics after this? ย She's still quite young by US political standards, what usually happens to presidential nominees that lose? Nope. She'll probably do a book and get some cute sales from that. 1
Graves Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Mariano said: Idk why y'all are so hopeful about "no trump" oponent..ย yes it won't be Trump himself, but he had to be defeated now in order for Republicans to finally ditch MAGA. Now they will embrace it even more with their next candidate probably being someone who will continue the same legacy and hateful rhetoric.ย Trump is the single most charismatic republican in decades, since Reagan. A good portion of his success comes down to his charm and likability to people, many of whom otherwise might not be so engaged.ย ย that doesn't mean that 2028 is a shoe in, just that Trump not being there IS a net positive for us. 1
Irco Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Album Leak said: I am really curious how the Dems are going to build their appeal in the young male demographic going forward. Seems like a worldwide phenomenon where leftist parties are struggling with this same issue.ย Pete should've been the candidate in 2020ย 1 1
GraceRandolph Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, americanlife said: Nope. She'll probably do a book and get some cute sales from that. Honestly probably not even that. She's not as famous as Hillary. She'll probably just go hide
Vermouth Posted November 6 Posted November 6 17 minutes ago, Malkuth said: Hopefully. If the West can get on friendlier terms with Russia, North Korea, etc, it could be a little silver lining. I really, really don't want anymore wars. Hopefully an agreement can be made between Russia and Ukraine now. Maybe the parts of Ukraine which are mostly Russian can become part of Russia, and the parts of Ukraine which are mostly Ukrainian stay in Ukraine. Dear God how naive are you. Really? Really? You hope? ย Russia, North Korea, and China are ย regimes that brook no dissent. Have you noted how often Putin's opponents mysteriously fall out of windows regularly or the fact that N Korea is a state wide prison camp? ย ย Do you think Putin is going to stop getting all of the Ukraine if he can get away with it? ย ย 2
GraceRandolph Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Irco said: Pete should've been the candidate in 2020ย He would've lost
Blankspace2010 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: Well for instance, gays wouldn't lose their rights to marriage, they would be able to keep their insurance, they wouldn't completely lose their rights of their bodies, and they wouldn't have their citizenship denounced and shipped off to other countries where they've never set foot...ย ย You do realize that part of Trump's agenda is to repeal obamacare, which will leave tens of millions of people without healthcare?ย And he wants a national abortion ban?ย And his team ABSOLUTELY wants to treat gay marriage just as they did abortion, and that they want to strip the citizenship away from millions of Americans, some of who UNDOUBTEDLY voted for him?ย ย Sometimes you don't get to pick out all of the cool new toys, you just get to keep the old ones.ย But y'all can't see that, apparently.ย If you can't have it all, you want nothing.ย So the answer is yes - the dems offered "we don't anything more for you but we will wave a pride flag from the White House every June".ย ย PEOPLE ARE DYING KIM.ย 1
Jay07 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Mordecai said: Does Kamala still have a career in politics after this? ย She's still quite young by US political standards, what usually happens to presidential nominees that lose? If Hillary bombed out of politics after 2016, I don't see how Kamala carries on. Maybe as just a Senator? But this loss was humiliating, she literally almost lost New Jersey. It will always follow her around, even if it wasn't fully her fault.
XDNA Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Album Leak said: I am really curious how the Dems are going to build their appeal in the young male demographic going forward. Seems like a worldwide phenomenon where leftist parties are struggling with this same issue.ย I think it will be up to artists, musicians and filmmakers to pass on progressive ideals. We don't have much of that anymore like we used to.ย ย 1
Wicked Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Gonna be interesting to read more from sociologists on the cultural aspects of this. ย The previous cultural posts are right but they are still missing something but idk what it is. I don't get how they fumbling young people so bad. ย Folks giving hella bail to white women for some reason, they will do as their men do because that's their safety net. That's literally always to be expected. ย There don't seem to be many successful attempts of even ~liberals to penetrate the major areas of current US culture. American women are getting more conservative too because that's safe to be falling in line behind a man. Trad wife content is mesmerizing on tiktok. Soft life ****. Most of the popular women in that podcast/stream **** cater to that too like Pearl ย idk how it got this bad. The whole left wing soy boy **** is actually a reality. It's painted as unserious crying and sensitivity ย There's a good amount of bare minimum liberals in all those pockets but it's like... idk.ย 2 1
WildAmerican Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Mordecai said: Does Kamala still have a career in politics after this? ย She's still quite young by US political standards, what usually happens to presidential nominees that lose? nah she's over. in retirement now.
Achilles. Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Polls showed the electorate didn't care about Trump's age in the same way though But maybe they would have cared if the media harped on about it (and were honest about Trump's obvious mental decline) as incessantly as they did with Biden. 2
Lose My Breath Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Album Leak said: I am really curious how the Dems are going to build their appeal in the young male demographic going forward. Seems like a worldwide phenomenon where leftist parties are struggling with this same issue.ย Well firstly, and unfortunately, they'll need a younger male candidate that they can relate to
Khal Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Irco said: Pete should've been the candidate in 2020ย Sorry, but if Kamala had the black woman problem, Pete will definitely have the gay problem, regardless of whether he's white and articulated. 1
Gottasadae Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Truly sad coz many groups of ppl will have a painful reality check during his second term and it's too late, since he already has an ultimate power with red Senate, House and Supreme Court - NIGHTMAREย
Calvin Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Almost like a middle aged prosecutor awkwardly trying to appeal to the brat summer generation can't hold a candle to a protectionist populist who plays dirty and gets straight to the point of what the public want, whether its feasible or not.
midnightdawn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 The sad thing is Kamala (like Hillary) will have to make a humiliating concession speech while Trump spent 4 years refusing to do so when he lost. For all the criticisms of the Democrats they're still playing by the rules while the GOP trash everything.
ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Mordecai said: Does Kamala still have a career in politics after this? ย She's still quite young by US political standards, what usually happens to presidential nominees that lose? She'll be calling in to MSNBC to complain about various things that Trump does. It's what Hillary did after all. She'll probably also have some speaking gigs at Davos and Aspen too. 1
punisher Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Album Leak said: I am really curious how the Dems are going to build their appeal in the young male demographic going forward. Seems like a worldwide phenomenon where leftist parties are struggling with this same issue.ย unfortunately, they're gonna need a male candidate the next time around. and they were stupid for making abortions and saving the democracy their entire plan, americans are worried about the economy and although trumps plan will fail, it sounds promising on paper elon musk's propoganda managed to paint republicans as the 'normal' side, meanwhile as if democrats wanted litter boxes in school bathrooms
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 ย "Guys maybe if we had gotten Liz Cheney out there just a little more" 2
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