OrgVisual Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Vermillion said: Β It's always the same for every country. The riot (first time in 20 years or so) that happened recently in my country was caused by idiotic unemployed uneducated white men Β I feel so sorry for all the liberal Americans, and especially our community on ATRL
ZENO Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Getting older and wiser (as a European) truly means detaching from American culture while realizing what a complete disaster the US actually is. 1
GraceRandolph Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Achilles. said: Yes. And I have no idea how Democrats are supposed to come back from this because their abysmal standing with (young) men isn't political, it's cultural. There is no candidate, campaign rhetoric, or policy position the Democrats could adapt that would break through the influence that Musk, Rogan, and all those abhorrent streamers and podcasters hold over men.Β Honestly it's going to take decades to undo this. Parents have really dropped the ball with raising boys I must say.Β 2
ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 This sums up how I feel more or less. Β Anyway, can't wait to be screamed at by liberals and told I'm the problem and that Harris losing is my fault even though I voted for her. Again, just like when I voted for Hillary and Biden. 3 2 2 1
Calvin Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) I still wonder how Obama won 365 electoral votes in 2008. How the support for democrats vanished so easily.Β Edited November 6 by Calvin
Vermillion Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Achilles. said: Yes. And I have no idea how Democrats are supposed to come back from this because their abysmal standing with (young) men isn't political, it's cultural. There is no candidate, campaign rhetoric, or policy position the Democrats could adapt that would break through the influence that Musk, Rogan, and all those abhorrent streamers and podcasters hold over men.Β Ding ding ding! We have a winner. 3
anti-bitch Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Chemist said: The election was driven by men from all ethnicities and races vote for the same candidate like never before. I don't think it's because they disliked Biden but because they ADORE trump Β This is just going to make the reported gender division worse, that women are becoming more Progressive and men Conservative.
GipJo Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Calvin said: I still wonder how Obama won 365 electoral votes in 2008. How the support for dopemocrats vanished so easily.Β The world is collectively going right now. USA, China, Russia, India, EU, all those big powers are going right, USA is just the final nail in the coffin. It's an alt right's world and you're unlucky to be living in it.
anastaciabby Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Just now, Calvin said: I still wonder how Obama won 365 electoral votes in 2008. How the support for dopemocrats vanished so easily.Β The hate was building since Obama's 2nd term, people became more and more brainwashed by networks saying how he was an illegal, the way they criticized his every move with blatant racism, the way they spewed fake conspiracys like actual news, etc. Β This white racist turnout was building for a long time
ClashAndBurn Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Calvin said: I still wonder how Obama won 365 electoral votes in 2008. How the support for dopemocrats vanished so easily.Β Bush's war was unpopular, and McCain sunk his own campaign by partnering with Sarah Palin. Β 2008 was a time when even Hillary Clinton could've won. I don't see Dems coming back from this disastrous defeat ever again. Β Thank you, Joe Biden. 1
GraceRandolph Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, anti-***** said: This is just going to make the reported gender division worse, that women are becoming more Progressive and men Conservative. Men have been struggling, and there's really no hope in sight. I guess Marianne is right that people will take false hope over no hope.Β
Pinter Posted November 6 Posted November 6 The moment Trump survived that shoot while ago i knew he was going to win this.... 1 1
Harrier Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Achilles. said: Yes. And I have no idea how Democrats are supposed to come back from this because their abysmal standing with (young) men isn't political, it's cultural. There is no candidate, campaign rhetoric, or policy position the Democrats could adapt that would break through the influence that Musk, Rogan, and all those abhorrent streamers and podcasters hold over men.Β Its because we have completely ceded masculinity and every masculine hobby to the right wing. Gaming, gym going, sports, wrestling, shooting, fishing, ... Everything. It's all linked to right wing politics in a more direct way than ever before. Β This is also true of the right wing and say, music or the arts - which they have ceded to the left. But men care about their hobbies more (including all of us with our music! lol), and I think this has been a not insigificant factor in how gen z men have been lost. 4
Vermillion Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Calvin said: I still wonder how Obama won 365 electoral votes in 2008. How the support for dopemocrats vanished so easily.Β 2008 was an asterisk in politics, just after the internet took off but pre-social media exploding and also after two wars and a recession. Β The Obama coalition has been broken for many reasons, including conservatives successfully pitting groups in the Dem coalition against each other. 1
americanlife Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Yall aren't ready for Gen Alpha to be super far right because a lot of conservatives are having kids these days
tiejc Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Glad Virginia remained blue in this sick and evil country. I'm done with voting and politics so I'll retreat to my corner, turn off the news and live pretending that the goverment doesn't exist. Maybe those that say there is no point in voting are correct.
Superbitch Posted November 6 Posted November 6 ***** even mexico Has a woman president right now. I'm starting to think it won't happen anytime soon here at all. A rapist, racist, homophobic that's trying to take away women's rights couldn't be beat. They won't have a woman candidate anytime soon.Β 1
Irco Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Calvin said: I still wonder how Obama won 365 electoral votes in 2008. How the support for dopemocrats vanished so easily.Β I really think in the end is very simple: people vote for the persona of the candidate.Β Β Obama is very charismatic, not the case with Biden, Hilary or Kamala. Β Trump is disgusting for us but he's carismatic for half of the country apparentlyΒ
BeenTheShit Posted November 6 Posted November 6 32 minutes ago, Calvin said: Why did they vote for him?Β They're brainwashed conservatives who believe the culture war stuff and Trump's lies. 1
Augmented Posted November 6 Posted November 6 9 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: Some of y'all don't want to hear this because it lives totally outside your bubble, but Twitch/Kick streamers and podcasters are even bigger celebrities than "celebrities" nowadays. Gen Z being conservative + right winger is an indication of this. They follow what people like Logan Paul or Adin Ross have to say.Β The engagement streamers amass is truly insane when you consider how many concurrent viewers they have pretty much on the daily. Add to the fact that pretty much everything the popular ones do goes viral on social media (Twitter in particular) sort of shows that they have the grasp of the two biggest platforms young people consume.
XDNA Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Β 4 minutes ago, Calvin said: I still wonder how Obama won 365 electoral votes in 2008. How the support for dopemocrats vanished so easily.Β Trumpism didn't exist back then.Β Β 1
Redstreak Posted November 6 Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, anti-***** said: This is just going to make the reported gender division worse, that women are becoming more Progressive and men Conservative. She's down a point with women from 2020, unfortunately women aren't very progressive either
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