woohoo Posted October 19 Posted October 19 24 minutes ago, superglowy said: Ironically, Republicans manipulating the polls will probably backfire. How many Democrats who figured 'Kamala's got this, I don't need to vote', or Republican women pissed about abortion rights but don't want to get their hands dirty, are gonna see it's close and bite the bullet and get out and vote Kamala? You may be onto something. I never early vote because I'm usually at the poll place volunteering on election but I am voting early this year out of enthusiasm and fear of it being so close. I want that fat orange turd flushed once and for all. 3 3
Prodigal Self Posted October 19 Posted October 19 4 hours ago, Sannie said: I don't feel entitled to anything y'all do since you do... nothing. Instead, I just expect y'all to walk the walk and talk the talk. Y'all spend all damn day sitting online screaming about how you're the ethical and moral authorities, but when it comes to putting in the work and trying to affect change, you go silent because canvassing or phone banking for your preferred candidate isn't exactly "social media friendly". You're not gonna get a bunch of likes by being like, "hey, I phone banked for my candidate today" like you would posting a photo of an objectively stupid write-in vote. I'm sorry. I was so high, seeing red, barking incoherently and all. My point was that the only way to "put in work" and "affect change" is to be derailing Kamala's campaign because once she's elected it's over. You know that, I know that, everybody in here know that. I understand why y'all don't like it but that's why I'm having a hard time being cordial with your kind -- caring about people being slaughtered (with your tax money but that's honestly besides the point) is such a wild foreign concept to you it enrages me so much, I refrain from posting in here 2 2 3
wastedpotential Posted October 19 Posted October 19 5 minutes ago, FameFatale said: You gotta be kidding me Well if Jesus said so... 2
Communion Posted October 19 Posted October 19 10 hours ago, Blade said: Almost like it is super easy to tar and feather a politician who stands for nothing and doesn't have a coherent worldview. 1 1
Communion Posted October 19 Posted October 19 9 hours ago, Sannie said: Why is looking virtuous online 9 hours ago, Sannie said: showboating and virtue signaling Really trying to skip over the "fire-bombing a weapons manufacturer" thing there, bud. It's just objectively silly to lash out at 3rd party voters with the argument of "okay but what else are we supposed to do???" when trying to frame a 3rd party vote as ineffective..but then also get mad at someone who objectively takes that claim to heart and found something far more material to do for their cause than voting. It's very odd for you as a hyper partisan white conservative state Democrat to highlight the whiteness of a person literally risking their life and safety for Palestinians in an actually meaningful way. It feels far more respectable that someone like Calla Wash is willing to use the privilege of her whiteness to risk imprisonment to stop weapons from getting to Israel and killing Palestinians but you cant bare the thought of losing the privilege that you still benefit from under whiteness even as a gay male to hold your chosen candidate accountable to earn your vote. 3
FameFatale Posted October 19 Posted October 19 12 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: Well if Jesus said so... looks like a lot of big right wing MAGA accounts are pushing this theory now. Probably to wheel in some of that evangelical votes Trump is losing. Had to stage a stunt. 1
noodlelymph Posted October 19 Posted October 19 2 hours ago, woohoo said: You may be onto something. I never early vote because I'm usually at the poll place volunteering on election but I am voting early this year out of enthusiasm and fear of it being so close. I want that fat orange turd flushed once and for all. Conversely there's this surge in early voting from (usually) energized Dem voters that then results in poor Election Day turnout. The apathetic (disproportionately poorer, younger POC) voters that the Dems are trying to get out to the polls in Midwestern cities and PA don't bother 1
Tovitov Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Made a plan to vote early on the 28th since I have off of work. Im neither in a swing state or a swing district(unless it gets really bad for democrats ) but gonna do my part anyway. Lets win this thing 3
Tovitov Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) The election is starting to feel like my Grindr profile: Tight and Bleak Spoiler Jk, feeling somewhat positive about Kamala's chance actually Edited October 19 by Tovitov 4
on the line Posted October 19 Posted October 19 3 hours ago, Prodigal Self said: I'm sorry. I was so high, seeing red, barking incoherently and all. My point was that the only way to "put in work" and "affect change" is to be derailing Kamala's campaign because once she's elected it's over. You know that, I know that, everybody in here know that. I understand why y'all don't like it but that's why I'm having a hard time being cordial with your kind -- caring about people being slaughtered (with your tax money but that's honestly besides the point) is such a wild foreign concept to you it enrages me so much, I refrain from posting in here Yes, sis! Derail that Kamala campaign so what you're so passionate about...... still happens!!! Such moral! Such dignity! Such winner!
Armani? Posted October 19 Posted October 19 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/18/upshot/polls-trump-harris-young-men.html Siena with their bullshit polls this cycle need to stop, this is so obviously not possible White men overall vote 60% Rep, and that's driven by older White men *example 18 - 29 Young Men - 53% Trump/44% Kamala 5.325M Trump 4.42M Kamala 10.1M Total White Young Men(60% electorate) 6.11M 58% Trump(+7 since 2020)/38% Kamala 3.55M Trump 2.35M Kamala Latino Young Men(21% electorate) - 2.12M 51% Trump(+12 since 2022) /45% Kamala 1.09M Trump 960k Kamala Black Young Men(10% electorate) .96k 70% Kamala/26% Trump (+12 since 2020) 675k Kamala 250k Trump Other POC Young Men(9% electorate) 910k 48% Kamala/48% Trump 435k Kamala 435k Trump ** How do you realistically get to 58% for Trump lmao, 53% is already a pipe dream 1 2
Lil Mistee Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Oh lord not this talk again… I thought we kissed and made up… You guys really should stop exaggerating what people say and then get mad at literally nothing cause no one said those things. Cuz then it just makes the other person mad and it's another fight over a nothing burger. (Watch one of yall try and say I said genocide is a nothing burger missing the point) 4
Sannie Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 4 hours ago, Prodigal Self said: I'm sorry. I was so high, seeing red, barking incoherently and all. My point was that the only way to "put in work" and "affect change" is to be derailing Kamala's campaign because once she's elected it's over. You know that, I know that, everybody in here know that. I understand why y'all don't like it but that's why I'm having a hard time being cordial with your kind -- caring about people being slaughtered (with your tax money but that's honestly besides the point) is such a wild foreign concept to you it enrages me so much, I refrain from posting in here "is to be derailing Kamala's campaign because once she's elected it's over" And derailing that campaign gives us Trump who will then slaughter millions of immigrants, trans people, and women. Why is it that the only genocide you guys care about is the one in Palestine that we (currently) effectively have no way of stopping? If you care about genocide, it shouldn't be "only the genocide that's popular at the moment". If you have the chance to stop a promised genocide from a political leader before it begins, why not take it? "is such a wild foreign concept to you" No, it's not. Jesus Christ. This mindset is so emblematic of how the left views the world:"If you don't agree with me, you cannot fathom atrocities. Also, I'm going to make something up to get mad about even though you didn't say it." We all know what the hell's happening in Palestine and most of us are horrified and don't agree with it. Those of you on the left have not tapped into some super secret code where you guys are the only ones who truly care about what's happening in the world. You're just the only ones who've decided to fetishize it and make it your personality to the point that everyone else can die and suffer as long as you make it known how much you care about Palestinians. I'm allowed to say that what I care about most is my mother who relies on the Affordable Care Act and my best friend who relies on not having an anti-transgender President, and the only way to protect them is to vote for the one person who is not specifically targeting them. Understanding that there are people in the US who are literally fighting to survive is such a foreign concept to you because you don't believe people in the US can actually suffer, or you're just fine with people in the US dying because "Americans are bad". I don't play games with morality, I don't think morality is black and white, and I understand that we are currently being presented with some very shitty options and have to chose the pile of **** that smells the least bad. I'm using my vote not as an endorsement but as a political tool because it's all I literally have, and that tool is a lot more effective than sitting online virtue signaling and yelling at people who dare to care about their family and friends. Edit: This convo started because I criticized a white person for writing in the ******* leading of Hamas on a ballot... And supposedly that person is a convicted felon who can't even vote so that would mean that what they did was the literal definition of virtue signaling lol. If you can't come to terms with just how stupid voting for the leader of Hamas is and how that is truly and solely performative, we may have lost the plot here. 28 minutes ago, Redstreak said: Well it's something Trump continuing to hit his ceiling and struggling to pass it. Edited October 19 by Sannie
Lil Mistee Posted October 19 Posted October 19 3 minutes ago, FameFatale said: This makes me wanna set myself on fire 1
Blade Posted October 19 Posted October 19 31 minutes ago, Redstreak said: Well it's something Is this not eligible for 538 or did it come out too late?
Blade Posted October 19 Posted October 19 I was going to mention this the other day. Pollsters like Trafalgar will find like Trump +1 in GA or PA but they would also find the R waaay up in 2022. Why can they barely get a lead for Trump in these states? 1 1
spree Posted October 19 Posted October 19 7 minutes ago, FameFatale said: he'd consider it? which means nothing. 3
Lil Mistee Posted October 19 Posted October 19 4 minutes ago, Blade said: Is this not eligible for 538 or did it come out too late? It's in there
FameFatale Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Lord have mercy they're already starting the voting machines rumors and drama. It's going to be a long November. 2 1
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