ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted October 9 ATRL Moderator Posted October 9 21 minutes ago, Sannie said: Ah yes, far right policies such as building new homes, expanding medical care, and common sense gun law reform. Hillary Clinton (2016): "I will expand Medicare to include people starting at age 55 or even age 50." (link) Joe Biden (2020): "I will expand Medicare to include people starting at age 60." (link) Kamala Harris (2024): ... no mention of expanding Medicare to more include more people (though she did, just today, announce her plan to have home elderly care be covered by Medicare). It's... pretty irrefutable the Democratic Party (not just Kamala) has moved to the right. 4 6
Communion Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 hour ago, Sannie said: Ah yes, far right policies such as building new homes, expanding medical care, and common sense gun law reform. *whispers* I think they mean the mass deportations and family separations they wanna sign into law. 1
bunnyeyes Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Communion said: *whispers* I think they mean the mass deportations and family separations they wanna sign into law. The way the Democrats moved to the right after all the virtue signaling during the trump admin. Queer people are next. Ironically, immigration orgs were at the forefront in supporting other causes championed by the dems then. Heck, the Biden admin was eager to turn on pro choice activists prior to roe v wade being lost. Edited October 9 by bunnyeyes
RihRihGirrrl Posted October 9 Posted October 9 If she's able to get the $6k child tax credit, expansion of medicare to cover home health care, and building millions of new homes done under a first term, those would be huge wins. 8
dman4life Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Anyone who can still sit up there and watch a CNN panel with Scott Jennings on it deserves an award!
Vroom Vroom Posted October 9 Posted October 9 6 hours ago, noodlelymph said: If she does get elected her administration is just going to be such a colossal failure that the GOP is going to end up winning big regardless in 2026 and 2028. This is giving déjà vu of what people were saying about Biden's administration before he was elected. That there would be a giant red wave in 2022 and 2024. That Biden would oversee a massive government shutdown and recession. That Biden would be impeached. That he would pass no meaningful legislation. But then none of that materialized. If Kamala wins she will most likely oversee a divided Congress. She will be able to protect important legislation like the IRA and ACA. If Trump wins, he will have unchecked power. He has the SCOTUS in his back pocket and most of his executive orders that are challenged will be unopposed by the Supreme Court At the end of the day, if Kamala supports the existing programs that are already being implemented and keeps Trump from having the power to make executive orders, she would have a successful 4 years. This election is not about building back better, it is about improving and protecting legislation that was recently passed. 6
Communion Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 hour ago, Vermillion said: Why in God's name is Tester's millions not being funneled to Allred? 1
ZeroSuitBritney Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Casting my vote for Jill Stein or Claudia de la Cruz today. Still not sure which one 3 1 2
Vermillion Posted October 9 Posted October 9 8 minutes ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: Casting my vote for Jill Stein or Claudia de la Cruz today. Still not sure which one Go for Claudia. Not as big of a hypocrite. 2 4
Raspberries Posted October 9 Posted October 9 7 minutes ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: Casting my vote for Jill Stein or Claudia de la Cruz today. Still not sure which one Just shred your ballot sis that's the same concept 7 1
ZeroSuitBritney Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Just now, Raspberries said: Just shred your ballot sis that's the same concept Cry more I love the taste of Blue MAGA tears 6 3
ZeroSuitBritney Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 minute ago, Vermillion said: Claudia. Not as big of a hypocrite. That's what I was thinking. Overall, I agree more with the values of the Party for Socialism and Liberation over the Green Party. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted October 9 Posted October 9 15 hours ago, GhostBox said: It's weird how alot of the outspoken pro Palestine crowd are also anti- Ukraine/pro Putin as well though 💀 Putin is actively doing to them what Israel is doing to Palestine. Like 🤷 It's even funnier to me how the vast majority of pro-Ukraine liberals are also pro-Israel sycophants. The Venn Diagram is a circle. 2 3 4
Popular Post Harrier Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 The endless moral handwringing over Kamala's basic political manoeuvring from people who know and follow politics every day is tired as hell. She is going to give a never-Trumper Vererans Affairs or another relatively bipartisan position. It will make absolutely no meaningful difference to her administration and is all part of her effort to win midwestern ticket splitters. Yell about any actually impactful and bad decisions, like if she fires Lina from FTC chair or something. On the 'run right' - yes, she is running more aggressively moderate than Biden or Hillary, particulary on immigration. Does that reflect Kamala being a secret conservative all along? No. It reflects her pragmatism, openness to change, the times and the reactionary nature of the 2024 electorate. She is playing defence for an unpopular administration and she is also aware of the fact that she will not have the senate to pass any big change anyway. Why commit to a big policy that will be attacked and fearmongered about by Republicans when there is no chance she can pass it anyway? It doesn't take much to understand why the campaign is making the decisions it is making. It wants to win. You can disagree with the strategy - I do too in places, like her embargo position - but enough with the moralising and the disingenuous implications that Kamala is a secret raging right winger. 15 4 3
Raspberries Posted October 9 Posted October 9 13 minutes ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: Cry more I love the taste of Blue MAGA tears Where's the crying? Nobody here takes anybody seriously who's contemplating voting for Jill ******* Stein 1 8 2
ClashAndBurn Posted October 9 Posted October 9 2 hours ago, Vroom Vroom said: This is giving déjà vu of what people were saying about Biden's administration before he was elected. That there would be a giant red wave in 2022 and 2024. That Biden would oversee a massive government shutdown and recession. That Biden would be impeached. That he would pass no meaningful legislation. But then none of that materialized. If Kamala wins she will most likely oversee a divided Congress. She will be able to protect important legislation like the IRA and ACA. If Trump wins, he will have unchecked power. He has the SCOTUS in his back pocket and most of his executive orders that are challenged will be unopposed by the Supreme Court At the end of the day, if Kamala supports the existing programs that are already being implemented and keeps Trump from having the power to make executive orders, she would have a successful 4 years. This election is not about building back better, it is about improving and protecting legislation that was recently passed. The Democrats would have been obliterated by a historic Red Tsunami in 2022 if they hadn't been rescued by Dobbs upending a 50-year old landmark case. The conventional wisdom pointed to an overwhelming loss and colossal wipeouts up and down the ballot due to inflation. 1 1
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