Communion Posted October 7 Posted October 7 This is probably the only map where Dems can thankfully cross the finish line while also being forced to reflect that something in their strategy was miscalculated. "Dem wons, yay!!!... but also only because Republicans somehow found a black conservative neo-nazi with a slavery kink to run its ticket".
Communion Posted October 7 Posted October 7 1 minute ago, Prodigal Self said: here's a kamala call her daddy podcast no one: absolutely no one: As in, I know of plenty of millennial women who kind of exist in this apolitical space, listen to CHD or those kind of alpha male or "high quality male" podcast and are interested in fitness and lifestyle and ~maximizing~ your potential as a person~, who maybe would fall into that double-hater category and vote Trump "cause the economy". I think this might help them increase their buffer with female independents. Sway those female undecideds. For all this talk about how some of y'all have to suffer under Republicans, some of you seem confused at attempts to describe these kinds of groups who don't vote Dem. Do y'all not actually know of or interact with anyone who is not fond of Harris? I don't think the kind of person I'm trying to describe is hard to point out. Right-wingers dominate podcasts, but not all right-wing podcasts are inherently political. They frame themselves as health and lifestyle and culture podcasts. There's a reason why Alex's instagram comments had a significant number of negative comments. And that there's a subset of independent female voters who are in their 30s, largely white, comfortably middle class, "moderate liberals". Probably have laptop, office style jobs. Who are uncomfortable with Trump's entire schtick, but remain hold-outs on Harris due them projecting onto Harris this idea she'll be bad for the economy. And to Harris' credit, the interview both emphasizes the issues on abortion but also these middle class economic policies that would matter to these double-hater women. I'm not personally convinced these women will remain reliable cohorts. I think not killing Palestinian-American & Lebanese-Americans' aunts and uncles and nephews and nieces is a much easier strategy at running up the numbers in the blue wall, but Harris apparently doesn't particularly care about genocide, so...follow the course you're on! 3
Blade Posted October 7 Posted October 7 It's an odd feeling to try to separate my preference for the Harris campaign strategy from what I truly believe would be a winning strategy. (TLDR is I don't know what the winning strategy is but I guess I'll rely on her campaign having the data to back up their decisions) I saw a tweet going around criticizing her for not running on breaking with Biden on I/P. Lots of quote tweets saying "she's not campaigning to lose" I don't necessarily agree that she'd lose if she publicly broke with Biden. Also I would genuinely be so happy. I'd consider catching a flight to LV and start canvassing But we also just don't know, outside of a rough idea in Michigan, just how many voters would change their minds. Also are voters that are "punishing" Harris for Biden's disastrous foreign policy going to find another reason to note vote for her even if she did break? Total anecdata but I saw a twitter account of a woman saying she wasn't voting for Harris because Harris has not come out against a national mask ban. There's not a typo in that sentence. Despite being a small minority, 3rd party voters are just like any other voter. They'll give you one of a billion combinations of why they would or wouldn't vote for a certain candidate. It's giving that person that an ET poster described that said they weren't voting for Biden because Roe was repealed under him I'm kind of just rambling now, but I guess what I'm saying is I *see* why her campaign thinks this is the strategy to go with. I won't be "Yass'ing" at any Republicans for Harris or Liz Cheney joint appearances though. 4
Blade Posted October 7 Posted October 7 I forgot to add above: The campaign clearly has reason to believe that 3rd party voters are more "baked in" than the people they're trying to push like disaffected republicans and conservative leaning Indies. They think the latter group can be pushed and turned out while the former is unreliable. Ideally, if I were running the campaign I'd be trying to get both. It's not bad to reach out to Republicans. It is bad when you're campaigning with a Cheney. Just take the endorsement and say thank you. Harris can't control that republicans endorse her but she can control the optics. I think her Ripon, WI rally would have been just as successful without Liz. 1
i spit on haters Posted October 7 Posted October 7 I'm surprised Pence hasn't come out in support of Harris, even just out of spite to get under Trump's thin-skinned. Several republicans are backing Harris. Pence has no desire, it would seem, to run for president so it wouldn't hurt him. The base was already done with him after he refused to help overthrow the election and they wanted to hang him. Pence publicly supporting and rallying for Harris would be the biggest **** you to Trump and MAGA. 1
Blade Posted October 7 Posted October 7 2 minutes ago, i spit on haters said: I'm surprised Pence hasn't come out in support of Harris, even just out of spite to get under Trump's thin-skinned. Several republicans are backing Harris. Pence has no desire, it would seem, to run for president so it wouldn't hurt him. The base was already done with him after he refused to help overthrow the election and they wanted to hang him. Pence publicly supporting and rallying for Harris would be the biggest **** you to Trump and MAGA. His background is too extreme for him to every actually say he's voting for Harris even if he actually does. He'd be more useful speaking to conservative Christians in ads by urging them not to vote. 2
GhostBox Posted October 7 Posted October 7 1 minute ago, Blade said: His background is too extreme for him to every actually say he's voting for Harris even if he actually does. He'd be more useful speaking to conservative Christians in ads by urging them not to vote. Yep and I actually think he will run for president again. 💀
ks_dollar Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Ohh Teddy Tim ate down on that Fox News interview the little trumpets in the youtube comments are fuming 1
Popular Post Tovitov Posted October 7 Popular Post Posted October 7 Just finished the Call Me Daddy episode. Nothing really new but Kamala really comes alive when she talks about reproductive freedom and healthcare. I think it's one of the few issues where she isnt trying to hold some percieved middle ground. I hope if and when she's elected, she feels less pressure to try and moderate because there is clearly a skilled and passionate leftwing politician underneath the surface where right now, shes campaigning as a centrist trying to hold together the massive political tent known as the 2020 Biden coalition. 15
ultraviolence.xx Posted October 7 Posted October 7 was trying to figure out how to watch Call Her Daddy. how did i not know Spotify hosted videos?? 1 1 1
Blade Posted October 7 Posted October 7 5 minutes ago, ultraviolence.xx said: was trying to figure out how to watch Call Her Daddy. how did i not know Spotify hosted videos?? ngl I went to YT first because I didn't want to just hear the audio. Color me shocked when a video started playing. 1
ultraviolence.xx Posted October 7 Posted October 7 yeah this kinda feels like there's not a new thought in here, but i'm wondering for those not as kamala-pilled as a lot of us are how much of this is new and will hit 1
Communion Posted October 7 Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Blade said: But we also just don't know, outside of a rough idea in Michigan, just how many voters would change their minds. Well.. 1
Lil Mistee Posted October 7 Posted October 7 https://www.cookpolitical.com/swingometer/2024 has anyone seen this? it's neat
karron0624 Posted October 7 Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Lightbringer007 said: So I'm in Tennessee and have always been registered to vote (hell i vote in all elections, including the superintendent one this past February). Color me shocked i checked last Tuesday, and I was removed from the registry, and no one could tell me why. (I don't even show up as a 4 star d, i come off as a 1 star d because so many of our elections are only republican candidates). So if you are in a state like mine, check your registration to make sure you are still registered. 5
Communion Posted October 7 Posted October 7 16 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said: people really liked this answer I guess Isn't this just word salad? Even the people in the replies are speaking in innuendo about what it's trying to say. Is it meant to be seen as criticizing Bibi? When it obfuscates? The average Israeli at this point support mass rape of Palestinians. This seems to be the most honest reply to the video and concedes "look! She is breaking away from Bibi!!!" isn't compelling the people it should compel because most pro-Palestinian activists have successfully (and rightfully) pushed the conversation to acknowledge the cultural sickness is not Bibi himself but the Zionist mindset of Israelis and their ethno-nationalism at large: 3 1
Lil Mistee Posted October 7 Posted October 7 44 minutes ago, Communion said: Isn't this just word salad? Even the people in the replies are speaking in innuendo about what it's trying to say. Is it meant to be seen as criticizing Bibi? When it obfuscates? The average Israeli at this point support mass rape of Palestinians. This seems to be the most honest reply to the video and concedes "look! She is breaking away from Bibi!!!" isn't compelling the people it should compel because most pro-Palestinian activists have successfully (and rightfully) pushed the conversation to acknowledge the cultural sickness is not Bibi himself but the Zionist mindset of Israelis and their ethno-nationalism at large: I didn't like the response, but people are saying it's a good response cuz she dodged supporting Netanyahu and framed it as supporting the Israeli people and not his governance. I get it...but I still don't like the response 1
Lil Mistee Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Oh, the new MAGA talking point is FEMA is taking peoples properties and things? theyre on some new crackhead **** every other day 1 4
ultraviolence.xx Posted October 7 Posted October 7 48 minutes ago, Communion said: Isn't this just word salad? Even the people in the replies are speaking in innuendo about what it's trying to say. Is it meant to be seen as criticizing Bibi? When it obfuscates? The average Israeli at this point support mass rape of Palestinians. This seems to be the most honest reply to the video and concedes "look! She is breaking away from Bibi!!!" isn't compelling the people it should compel because most pro-Palestinian activists have successfully (and rightfully) pushed the conversation to acknowledge the cultural sickness is not Bibi himself but the Zionist mindset of Israelis and their ethno-nationalism at large: in my experience, in the larger context of the interview, it didn't hit any kind of way the first time I saw it, after all the other defend-yourself-against-terrorist-scum **** she spewed just prior. but in isolation, like in this clip, that last bit reads to me as lowkey Clairo shade, and i can sort of yass it up and pretend (in a delulu fashion) she's gonna make some big break from Biden the second she's in office. but yeah, no, I don't see it happening for her
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