RihRihGirrrl Posted October 1 Posted October 1 1 minute ago, GhostBox said: What 💀 He is so ridiculously unserious 2
FameFatale Posted October 1 Posted October 1 3 minutes ago, GhostBox said: What 💀 Oh he's still running with some of the conspiracy theorists and has them close if he's spewing this mess. This same talking point has been going around in the extreme right-wing circles.
Bears01 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 All the dooming and glooming in here is massively unnecessary right now. The race is a pure tossup and the polls are reflecting that. However, like many Have said, it would be great to see Kamala not be an Israel simp, but that's to be expected from US politicans at this point. Sadly 4
on the line Posted October 1 Posted October 1 9 minutes ago, GhostBox said: What 💀 Giving me @Communion and pals making up stories about my life vibes. Lmao 5
ClashAndBurn Posted October 1 Posted October 1 14 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I mean both statements can be correct. 🤷 Notice how she ONLY has a bad thing to say about Iran and not the "ally" carrying out a genocidal campaign with our bombs and in our name. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, and Benjamin Netanyahu are all worse people than ANYONE in the Islamic Republic's government. 1 3 3
Blade Posted October 1 Posted October 1 3 minutes ago, Bears01 said: All the dooming and glooming in here is massively unnecessary right now. The race is a pure tossup and the polls are reflecting that. However, like many Have said, it would be great to see Kamala not be an Israel simp, but that's to be expected from US politicans at this point. Sadly But to be fair, the polls wouldnt reflect the invasion and esclations in the middle east until end of this week/early next week.
on the line Posted October 1 Posted October 1 2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, and Benjamin Netanyahu are all worse people than ANYONE in the Islamic Republic's government. Yikes. 2 1 1
thesegayz Posted October 1 Posted October 1 Yawn so now we're just going ignore how the far right ayatollah has been in proxy wars since their revolution. Y'all's brains are cooked if you can't admit the main aggressor in the Middle East has been Iran trying to cause more Iranian revolutions this has especially been the case since the failed Arab Spring. 1 2
thesegayz Posted October 1 Posted October 1 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Notice how she ONLY has a bad thing to say about Iran and not the "ally" carrying out a genocidal campaign with our bombs and in our name. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, and Benjamin Netanyahu are all worse people than ANYONE in the Islamic Republic's government. Yes, Kamala Harris, who as VP has been single handledly outpacing Iran's body count. Or was that as attorney general with California's revolutionary guard? I forget, I missed that day of twitter Edited October 1 by thesegayz 1 1 2 1
thesegayz Posted October 1 Posted October 1 8 minutes ago, Bears01 said: All the dooming and glooming in here is massively unnecessary right now. The race is a pure tossup and the polls are reflecting that. However, like many Have said, it would be great to see Kamala not be an Israel simp, but that's to be expected from US politicans at this point. Sadly Trump and Kamala are in a game of chicken to condemn Israel first. Both of them know it's politically advantageous, they just know how effective AIPAC is at quashing dissent (see: progressive members losing their primaries to last minute opponents) it's pretty simple, but instead we have users in here basting in paranoia and conspiracy and spreading it like a wildfire 1
If U Seek Amy Posted October 1 Posted October 1 13 minutes ago, Bears01 said: All the dooming and glooming in here is massively unnecessary right now. The race is a pure tossup and the polls are reflecting that. However, like many Have said, it would be great to see Kamala not be an Israel simp, but that's to be expected from US politicans at this point. Sadly Exactly. People need to give up using polls to try to find some sort of data that relaxes them. It's gonna be a toss up and that's that. Just wait for November atp instead of following every poll 1
thesegayz Posted October 1 Posted October 1 It's pretty frustrating that actual human beings cannot admit that, outside of Israel's creation post 1940s, the main driver of destabilization of the Middle East has been the Sunni v Shia Islamic chasm. The US is less of a factor in the Middle East (got involved in 1991 with the Gulf war) than France and England, who literally drew the lines of modern conflict. seriously, if you cannot see that the Middle East is a Saudi Arabia v Iran conflict, and the rest of the region vs. Israel, you're blind and incapable of critical thought and research 2 2
Blade Posted October 1 Posted October 1 This dude's model having Harris with a higher chance in FL than AZ 1 1
Lightbringer007 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 22 minutes ago, Bears01 said: All the dooming and glooming in here is massively unnecessary right now. The race is a pure tossup and the polls are reflecting that. However, like many Have said, it would be great to see Kamala not be an Israel simp, but that's to be expected from US politicans at this point. Sadly this^
ultraviolence.xx Posted October 1 Posted October 1 6 minutes ago, thesegayz said: It's pretty frustrating that actual human beings cannot admit that, outside of Israel's creation post 1940s, the main driver of destabilization of the Middle East has been the Sunni v Shia Islamic chasm. The US is less of a factor in the Middle East (got involved in 1991 with the Gulf war) than France and England, who literally drew the lines of modern conflict. seriously, if you cannot see that the Middle East is a Saudi Arabia v Iran conflict, and the rest of the region vs. Israel, you're blind and incapable of critical thought and research 3
thesegayz Posted October 1 Posted October 1 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ultraviolence.xx said: Please, tell me your version of history. Because I've yet to see anyone explain it. Yall are good at downvoting, but really suck at defending your ideas or convincing people to follow you in fact, no bother, I asked ChatGPT: The causes of conflict in the Middle East in the 20th century and beyond are complex and multifaceted, involving a range of actors, both internal and external. Rather than attributing the wars to a single actor or cause, it's important to recognize that several key factors and powers have contributed to instability in the region: 1. **Colonial Powers (Britain and France):** Following World War I and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Britain and France drew arbitrary borders in the Middle East through the Sykes-Picot Agreement (1916), dividing the region into mandates. This created states like Iraq, Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon, often without regard to ethnic and sectarian divisions, sowing seeds for future conflicts. 2. **Creation of Israel (1948):** The establishment of Israel after World War II, following the United Nations partition plan, led to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and has since fueled ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a major source of instability in the region. Subsequent Arab-Israeli wars in 1956, 1967, and 1973 further escalated tensions. 3. **Cold War Rivalries (U.S. and USSR):** During the Cold War, both the United States and the Soviet Union sought influence in the region, supporting different factions and governments. This contributed to proxy wars, including the Suez Crisis (1956), the Iranian Revolution (1979), and the Iran-Iraq War (1980–1988). 4. **Iran and Iraq:** The Iran-Iraq War (1980–1988) was one of the deadliest conflicts in modern Middle Eastern history, caused by territorial disputes and sectarian rivalry. Both Saddam Hussein's Iraq and post-revolutionary Iran played major roles in furthering regional instability. 5. **U.S. Involvement (Post-1991):** The United States' role has been significant since the Gulf War (1991), followed by the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which led to the toppling of Saddam Hussein. U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as in interventions like the fight against ISIS, has played a major role in shaping conflicts across the Middle East. 6. **Civil Wars and Terrorism:** More recently, internal civil wars such as the Syrian Civil War (2011–present) and the rise of extremist groups like ISIS have caused immense destruction. These conflicts have drawn in regional powers like Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, as well as international interventions by the U.S. and Russia. 7. **Saudi-Iranian Rivalry:** The Sunni-Shia divide, especially between Saudi Arabia and Iran, has fueled proxy wars in countries like Yemen and Syria, exacerbating conflicts across the region. Each of these actors and dynamics has contributed to the ongoing cycle of conflict in the Middle East, rather than a single entity or nation being solely responsible. The region's complexity, with its ethnic, sectarian, and geopolitical fault lines, has made it prone to both internal unrest and external interventions. Edited October 1 by thesegayz 2
GhostBox Posted October 1 Posted October 1 8 minutes ago, Blade said: This dude's model having Harris with a higher chance in FL than AZ
thesegayz Posted October 1 Posted October 1 I'm going back to the Gaga thread to look for evidence of sanity on this site 4 3
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