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Part of the shift to the right by Latinos really is economic reasons especially for those who have already become legal citizens. Its easy to frame it as wanting to throw their fellow immigrants under the bus but its more of wanting to find legitimate opportunities once they make it as a citizen legally (remember they went to America for the "American Dream") and quite frankly the Democrats have not been offering any economic platforms for them (they do have them but the leadership doesn't want to push them for some reason).ย 

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Part of the shift to the right by Latinos really is economic reasons especially for those who have already become legal citizens. Its easy to frame it as wanting to throw their fellow immigrants under the bus but its more of wanting to find legitimate opportunities once they make it as a citizen legally (remember they went to America for the "American Dream") and quite frankly the Democrats have not been offering any economic platforms for them (they do have them but the leadership doesn't want to push them for some reason).ย 

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Part of the shift to the right by Latinos really is economic reasons especially for those who have already become legal citizens. Its easy to frame it as wanting to throw their fellow immigrants under the bus but its more of wanting to find legitimate opportunities once they make it as a citizen legally (remember they went to America for the "American Dream") and quite frankly the Democrats have not been offering any economic platforms for them (they do have them but the leadership doesn't want to push them for some reason).ย 

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Part of the shift to the right by Latinos really is economic reasons especially for those who have already become legal citizens. Its easy to frame it as wanting to throw their fellow immigrants under the bus but its more of wanting to find legitimate opportunities once they make it as a citizen legally (remember they went to America for the "American Dream") and quite frankly the Democrats have not been offering any economic platforms for them (they do have them but the leadership doesn't want to push them for some reason).ย 

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EDIT: ATRL Sis hsjdkdkd I kept punching that reply buttonย :rip:

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ย 38% of White vote? I don't see it:suburban:

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I'm not even getting my hopes up on Texas or Florida senate seats. Desantis and Gregg will pull some **** even if they did win by small margins

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Part of the shift to the right by Latinos really is economic reasons especially for those who have already become legal citizens. Its easy to frame it as wanting to throw their fellow immigrants under the bus but its more of wanting to find legitimate opportunities once they make it as a citizen legally (remember they went to America for the "American Dream") and quite frankly the Democrats have not been offering any economic platforms for them (they do have them but the leadership doesn't want to push them for some reason).ย 

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3 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

The polls on Latinos are scaring me. Uneducated Latinos, especially men, are shifting to the right HARDย :tornado:

the fake far right communism socialism dictator ads really did a number on them I fear

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1 hour ago, Lightbringer007 said:

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see trumps funny :bibliahh:

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1 hour ago, Armani? said:

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SAVE US WHITE PEOPLE, PLEASE SUBURBAN WHITE MOMS, SAVE US

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(never thought I'd say that)

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I just watched the Michael Moore documentary about Trump and I- at Gwen Stefani apparently causing Trump to run for presidentย :rip:ย I know its a theory but still hddjkdkdย :deadbanana:

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7 hours ago, GhostBox said:

It's literally the same few users ย who only come in here and post an anti- Harris/Biden post once a day then leave till their next one ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I like how stating the truth, that Kamala Harris has promised literally nothing different than the full support of genocide that Biden has been pushing for just a week shy of an entire year, is "anti-Harris/Biden"

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You can vote to support genocide and the mass killing of Arabs all you like. Truly. No one's stopping you. Just don't lie to other people that their vote actually makes a difference on Israel-Palestine, because it doesn't. Focus on fearmongering about the Supreme Court and Project 2025 instead, because that's all voting Democrat is for. Stopping things from getting worse, because making things better is too hard for them to ever achieve, nor would they ever want to.ย 

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7 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

I like how stating the truth, that Kamala Harris has promised literally nothing different than the full support of genocide that Biden has been pushing for just a week shy of an entire year, is "anti-Harris/Biden"

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You can vote to support genocide and the mass killing of Arabs all you like. Truly. No one's stopping you. Just don't lie to other people that their vote actually makes a difference on Israel-Palestine, because it doesn't. Focus on fearmongering about the Supreme Court and Project 2025 instead, because that's all voting Democrat is for. Stopping things from getting worse, because making things better is too hard for them to ever achieve, nor would they ever want to.ย 

No offense but can you like, shut the **** up? There's no fear mongering, these are in-house issues a lot of us don't want to happen. Keep talking about one issue as if there's nothing else on the line.ย 

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46 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said:

SAVE US WHITE PEOPLE, PLEASE SUBURBAN WHITE MOMS, SAVE US

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(never thought I'd say that)

I can see White women swinging a pt or two left just because it will be a younger electorate compared to 2020

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But White men overall, will probably swing right lol. Young White men looks like it just be a repeat of 2020 though.

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Just now, Armani? said:

I can see White women swinging a pt or two left just because it will be a younger electorate compared to 2020

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But White men overall, will probably swing right lol

We need the suburban cat ladies/swifty fans so bad....

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4 hours ago, Armani? said:

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These polls were also all conducted pre Debate.

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Black Voter Project - 85% to 12%

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I'd feel more comfortable with Trump's share going to 10% in the next large poll.ย 

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22 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said:

No offense but can you like, shut the **** up? There's no fear mongering, these are in-house issues a lot of us don't want to happen. Keep talking about one issue as if there's nothing else on the line.ย 

No :)ย 

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Your party is campaigning on fear and making people afraid of what Republicans can and will do. Because that is genuinely all there is to run on. And that's fine, just be honest about it. There is no codifying Roe. The only options are a national ban or the new status quo where abortion access is geographically dependent. That is never changing, because there will never be enough Democrats in the Senate who support filibuster reform. Even if there were to be a path for Democrats to ever regain 50 senators after this year, the Rhode Island guy said no.

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The only realistic policy outcome that she's currently campaigning on is toughening border security because people are afraid of immigrants (of color) and Democrats did nothing to alleviate people's fears. They bought into Republicans' framing and deemed far right immigration was necessary for political survival.

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If we're going to believe the massive rightward shift of Latinos (which is very possible) and doom about it we have to look at all trends we're seeing.

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Harris will likely improve upon trends that Biden saw himself improve upon Clinton. White voters and seniors.

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A CNN article I read today noted how you don't want to be losing votes anywhere, like Harris is with Latinos, but if you had to compare trends, you'd much rather be Harris with a higher share of the white and senior vote than Joe than Trump with a higher Latino vote share than he had against Biden. The fact is those groups are just a larger part of the electorate and are more likely to vote. That combo wins the rust belt with a minimum of 270 votes. Unless NV/AZ decide the election because one of the rust belt states fell through and GA/NC vote red.

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But even then, maybe this is massive cope on my end, but I do think its possible that rightward Latino shift isn't as pronounced in swing states than it is nationally due to ground game, campaigning, and ads.

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41 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said:

Keep talking about one issue as if there's nothing else on the line.ย 

I mean the irony is that the good sis @GhostBoxย quite literally has never posted outside of a political thread and is likely a bot so the complaining about others having a very repetitive form of cotributioh to the thread is a bit funny. Like there was w months where the good sis could only post clapping emojis cause his pro-Biden propaganda made everyone angry at them as Biden was dying before our eyes fjdjjddj.ย 

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