VOSS Posted Friday at 12:21 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:21 AM 4 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: Vance was picked because 1. Peter Thiel and the Silicon Valley tech bros and cryptocurrency shills wanted him 2. they thought they were sliding into an easy election layup against Biden, so a moderate VP that could shore up swing voters wasn't deemed necessary His selection was for a completely different election than what we are in now. In hindsight, they probably now wish they had gone with the instinctive pick of Doug Bergum when they had the chance. I also heard Trump went with Vance instead of a normal running mate after the assassination attempt cause he didn't want to be in a position where someone could assassinate him and get a President Haley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOSS Posted Friday at 12:26 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:26 AM 2 hours ago, Vermillion said: I'm just gonna call her Kayleigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted Friday at 12:31 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:31 AM The Fox Georgia poll does show a trend at least from their previous ones since Biden Their Arizona one is just noisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted Friday at 12:32 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:32 AM Michigan is regarded as the median state of the country , another sign poll averages are not horribly off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relampago. Posted Friday at 12:33 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:33 AM 27 minutes ago, shelven said: At least half of these will end up being wrong, but I respect Morning Consult for at least not putting out a bunch of ties like it seems everyone else has decided to do this week Literally the Trafalgar of the left like But someone has to do it to keep these averages cute in the Sun Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Communion Posted Friday at 12:44 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:44 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Relampago. said: Latinos love social programs, that's why Bernie was so big with them. Harris isn't offering much in the way of that. Them having conservative values isn't really a huge issue either since most Latinos in AZ are Catholic anyways and would vote dem with more incentive to. Me hearing two straight male co-workers joke about a clip going viral in Republican circles of a "fake accent" from when Harris spoke to a largely Hispanic audience recently and trying to figure out how to pitch *re-reads* tax credits for those who build small-business AI data energy centers in low income neighborhoods as a plus to them... (The biggest sign to me that the "pivot right! pivot right!!" thing will struggle to work is the amount of double-hater "independents" who just give me the impression they're 100% gonna break for Trump and how Harris' pivot to the right has made defending her impossible cause these same people will have no issue of going "of course they both suck" but still frame him as inherently better "for the economy" when confronted with **** like January 6th, etc.) ((Shocker! Punching left at socialism helped Republicans normalize their claims! Who would have thought!)) Edited Friday at 12:44 AM by Communion 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotunda Posted Friday at 12:53 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:53 AM 20 minutes ago, Relampago. said: Literally the Trafalgar of the left like But someone has to do it to keep these averages cute in the Sun Belt Ntm on my Emotional Support Fake Polls 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted Friday at 01:08 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:08 AM 1 hour ago, Relampago. said: Latinos love social programs, that's why Bernie was so big with them. Not this just now coming across my timeline.. We were so happy back then... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Virgos Groove Posted Friday at 01:23 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:23 AM 1 minute ago, Communion said: Not this just now coming across my timeline.. We were so happy back then... I've been thinking a lot about that 2017-2020 period (since it was more or less my political awakening and how I learned about progressivism, socialism, Marxism, etc.) and I still cannot believe it hapenned. An era where most of the Dem candidates were fighting to see who was the most progressive. Where slogans like "abolish ICE" and "defund the police" didn't just go viral, but were legitimately discussed. Where previously fringe "loony left" policies like student debt relief and the Green New Deal were made part of the Dem platform. Where the "paradox of tolerance" was being discussed by liberals. Like, Starbucks liberals. Naturally, this wasn't meant to last and it didn't. The moment Supreme Commander Biden stepped into office after the chaos of January 6th, the centrists abandoned any commitment to progressivism and the (very few) progressives that didn't follow the party line were dismissed as "enabling a second Trump term". Russia invaded Ukraine and everyone right of Joseph Stalin began painting ******* NATO as a liberation movement (pffft ). "Abolish ICE" and "resist the American Gestapo" became "actually, we do need to kick out the migrants". And now genocide is considered a totally acceptable reality or, at worst, a consequence of realpolitik that no liberal or progressive should question. Trump's term was undeniably - and I cannot stress this enough - AWFUL. But if there is one small thing I miss, it's that it lit a fire under Dems' ass. That late-2018/2019 Squad AOC Omar Tlaib Green New Deal Bernie 2020 era... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted Friday at 01:30 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:30 AM It's still wild to look back and think how well things were going after the NV primary and then how quickly everything fell apart when the candidates rallied around Biden Obama was putting in WORK. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted Friday at 01:32 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:32 AM 7 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said: I've been thinking a lot about that 2017-2020 period (since it was more or less my political awakening and how I learned about progressivism, socialism, Marxism, etc.) and I still cannot believe it hapenned. An era where most of the Dem candidates were fighting to see who was the most progressive. Where slogans like "abolish ICE" and "defund the police" didn't just go viral, but were legitimately discussed. Where previously fringe "loony left" policies like student debt relief and the Green New Deal were made part of the Dem platform. Where the "paradox of tolerance" was being discussed by liberals. Like, Starbucks liberals. Naturally, this wasn't meant to last and it didn't. The moment Supreme Commander Biden stepped into office after the chaos of January 6th, the centrists abandoned any commitment to progressivism and the (very few) progressives that didn't follow the party line were dismissed as "enabling a second Trump term". Russia invaded Ukraine and everyone right of Joseph Stalin began painting ******* NATO as a liberation movement (pffft ). "Abolish ICE" and "resist the American Gestapo" became "actually, we do need to kick out the migrants". And now genocide is considered a totally acceptable reality or, at worst, a consequence of realpolitik that no liberal or progressive should question. Trump's term was undeniably - and I cannot stress this enough - AWFUL. But if there is one small thing I miss, it's that it lit a fire under Dems' ass. That late-2018/2019 Squad AOC Omar Tlaib Green New Deal Bernie 2020 era... I mean, legit good policy actually came of this era. Lina Khan at the FTC, the child tax credit expansion in 2021, Biden's attempts to eliminate some student debt, and the IRA. It officially died on 10/7/23 and with Dems suddenly thinking "gee, we need to run super hard right on immigration to win the support of never trumpers"! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted Friday at 01:34 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:34 AM 4 minutes ago, Blade said: It's still wild to look back and think how well things were going after the NV primary and then how quickly everything fell apart when the candidates rallied around Biden Obama was putting in WORK. Such a weird time. I felt like I was in the Twilight Zone….on here too. Obama's coalescing should have gotten so much more scrutiny but the freezer morgue trucks were literally rolling through New York City by the dozens just a couple weeks later… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CamCam Posted Friday at 01:42 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:42 AM (edited) I'm so lost...is the Eric Adams indictment a good thing or a bad thing for the election? Because on one hand, I see people from the left cheering, but on the other, some of the posts considering him denying the results has me so confused. Edited Friday at 01:42 AM by CamCam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted Friday at 01:46 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:46 AM UGH HOW could I forget on our revisiting tour - Chris Matthews meltdown @Communion always loves to bring up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sannie Posted Friday at 01:51 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:51 AM he knows the right's policies about this **** are so unpopular but he's afraid to say anything to piss off his voters so he just says stupid **** like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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