ClashAndBurn Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Sean Patrick Maloney is absolute joke, and if the people of his district had any sense, they would vote him out. Rank-and-file Democrats are more than happy with this type of politician though. After all, they enthusiastically nominated the absolute laughingstock named Joe Biden two years ago. So I won't hold my breath.
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Not MORE "Ukrainian asset, America Last" behavior from Biden. Why should ANY American taxpayer vote for this garbage in 2024?
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Not Satan being in charge of student loan debt forgiveness. I'd even trust TRUMP more in that role than her. 5 days in jail? Should be 5 decades. NNN, Americans are saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
BlondGuts Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Kassi said: @BlondGutsMaybe, to get our money back, we can ride the inevitable meme stock wave that’s to follow once a whole bunch of 20-somethings no longer have student debt payments to make It’s giving pandemic $2k checks x 5. Just gotta get in early. Ooh honey I like that but you know what, I just found out if you made student loan payments during the forbearance since March 2020, you can ask your student loan provider for a refund of the amount you paid! I’ll only do it if Joe Biden is serious about implementing some level of forgiveness Otherwise paying off that lump sum with no interest wasn’t a bad decision either
Communion Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Espresso said: Oh god, here we go. After reading the fine print that's out there so far if this is a base play for November turnout it's so insulting to so many I don't even see it lasting until then. In fact, long-term for 2024 I could see it backfiring with that base and even those that wouldn't have turned out to vote anyways. Conservative backlash and further depressed base. BUT the wild-card remains Roe. Whether Roe can cancel out inflation AND piss-poor student loan help backfiring is a tall order. Genuinely going to be actively convincing as many college grads and others with student debt as possible to not vote in November if they refuse to do at least $50k and I feel that Dems have this coming to them If Dems want us to be miserable, **** it, all of us can be miserable together. Edited August 23, 2022 by Communion
ClashAndBurn Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Communion said: Genuinely going to be actively convincing as many college grads and others with student debt as possible to not vote in November if they refuse to do at least $50k and I feel that Dems have this coming to them If Dems want us to be miserable, **** it, all of us can be miserable together. The fact that he would even consider putting Neera Tanden in charge of student debt relief is also just... a massive **** you to Bernie and his supporters. And that's probably why tbh.
GhostBox Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Communion said: Genuinely going to be actively convincing as many college grads and others with student debt as possible to not vote in November if they refuse to do at least $50k and I feel that Dems have this coming to them If Dems want us to be miserable, **** it, all of us can be miserable together. Ok ? millions will be happy to get 10k forgiveness instead of nothing (which is what they will get with a republican administration!) ? “No I don’t want 10k forgiveness give me nothing insteaddd!” ? Edited August 23, 2022 by GhostBox
Communion Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Ok ? millions will be happy to get 10k forgiveness instead of nothing (which is what they will get with a republican administration!) ? “No I don’t want 10k forgiveness give me nothing insteaddd!” ? Sis, no one is moved by this gaslighting you do at the drop of any criticism seriously. You have sat here for two years and smiled while literally shoveling plates upon plates of poop (to lighten the mood abd quote Nina Turner) while thanking Biden for the opportunity to do so. Your unwavering, constant praise means objectively you are removed from reality of how the average American feels about this underwater presidency. No, I will not be thankful for an administration that gave high-income households an average forgiven PPP loan of $90k while Biden complains about how easy young people have it. That is delusion on your part and you know it no matter how much you'll ever refuse to recognize that fact.
GhostBox Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Communion said: Sis, no one is moved by this gaslighting you do at the drop of any criticism seriously. You have sat here for two years and smiled while literally shoveling plates upon plates of poop (to lighten the mood abd quote Nina Turner) while thanking Biden for the opportunity to do so. Your unwavering, constant praise means objectively you are removed from reality of how the average American feels about this underwater presidency. No, I will not be thankful for an administration that gave high-income households an average forgiven PPP loan of $90k while Biden complains about how easy young people have it. That is delusion on your part and you know it no matter how much you'll ever refuse to recognize that fact. Seems like the majority I’ve seen today agree with me. 10k is life changing for millions of people. Yes even if we would like more we will not take the “all or nothing mentality”
Communion Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, GhostBox said: Seems like the majority I’ve seen today agree with me. 10k is life changing for millions of people. Yes even if we would like more we will not take the “all or nothing mentality” Again. No one takes this seriously. Everyone sees this and understands this as gaslighting. They know you're gleefull at the idea of 30M+ millions of Americans, disproportionately low-income and POC and still stuck in debt. Literally no matter how many times Biden puts a coin in your backside and you go "MOST PROGRESSIVE PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME!", the vast majority of people don't believe you.
GhostBox Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Communion said: Again. No one takes this seriously. Everyone sees this and understands this as gaslighting. They know you're gleefull at the idea of 30M+ millions of Americans, disproportionately low-income and POC and still stuck in debt. Literally no matter how many times Biden puts a coin in your backside and you go "MOST PROGRESSIVE PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME!", the vast majority of people don't believe you. It doenst matter if they do. It’s just a fact. He is?
Communion Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Partisan Dems: "Stop comparing domestic projects to aid to Ukraine! That's not how budgets work!" Biden: I need y'all to understand the hellfire this man is about to open of all-directions resentment and backlash if he seriously announces an objectively weak and timid student debt forgiveness plan the same day he announces the largest aid package to Ukraine yet.
GhostBox Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Another campaign promise about to be achieved ???? I have alot of friends who this is gonna help so much ?
ClashAndBurn Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Another campaign promise about to be achieved ???? I have alot of friends who this is gonna help so much ? Notice how that tweet doesn't say anything about means-testing so severely as to make it nearly useless, but... sure?
GhostBox Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Notice how that tweet doesn't say anything about means-testing so severely as to make it nearly useless, but... sure? I see no problem making sure only the ones who need it get it.
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted August 23, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted August 23, 2022 If Biden now agrees that he has the power to cancel student debt, why the $10k limit? Why not just cancel all of it, or at least a much larger amount? Why restrict it to certain income levels? Sure, $10k is better than nothing but I'm not really understanding the logic or reason behind setting these arbitrary limits.
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted August 23, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted August 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I see no problem making sure only the ones who need it get it. So a single mother of 2 making $130k a year in San Francisco doesn't need it? According to who?
ClashAndBurn Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I see no problem making sure only the ones who need it get it. See... this is why people hate smug neoliberals. Edited August 23, 2022 by ClashAndBurn
GhostBox Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, ClashAndBurn said: See... this is why people hate smug neoliberals. 3 minutes ago, Marvin said: So a single mother of 2 making $130k a year in San Francisco doesn't need it? According to who? If shes making 130k a year she probably can afford it.
Communion Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I see no problem making sure only the ones who need it get it. So you agree that aid should be driven by need and thus Joe Biden deciding to stick people who make barely $30k a year with $15k+ in debt is criminal and political malpractice, yes?
GhostBox Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Communion said: So you agree that aid should be driven by need and thus Joe Biden deciding to stick people who make barely $30k a year with $15k+ in debt is criminal and political malpractice, yes? If they qualify then they will get the 10k of debt relief ????
Communion Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, GhostBox said: If they qualify then they will get the 10k of debt relief ???? So you're agreeing Biden is saddling the most poor with tens of thousands of dollars in debt despite their need? "Rich six-figure doctors don't need their debt forgiven! Poor people need this need instead!" and "Poor people should be grateful for the $10k and shut the **** up" are not two ideas that can coherently exist together.
GhostBox Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Christ defeats Fried. Desantis will win by a huge margin anyway the race went though.
ClashAndBurn Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Democrats really think their best bet to beat the most popular non-Trump Republican in the country is... a literal former Republican. Says it all really.
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