ClashAndBurn Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, GhostBox said: I could see him signing his 10k forgiveness plan first. also if they aren’t going to be completely be forgiven (which isn’t gonna happen no matter who’s president) they can’t be paused forever. The pandemic hysteria is mostly over. So of course they will have to resume sometime. Of course you would say that, as one of the biggest defenders he has in the entire country. Turning off Trump’s student loan moratorium less than two months before an election is extremely boneheaded. And he thinks he can get away with it because Manchin did him a solid with the fossil fuel giveaway bill right after the Al Qaeda leader got taken out via drone strike, giving him, he assumes, enough political capital to quietly throw student loan borrowers under the bus a month after he told debt collectors not to contact us. Guess what? They’re now officially contacting us TWO WEEKS BEFORE. And you don’t see anything wrong with this sheer level of cruelty???
Kassi Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 The boring reality is he’ll probably pause them again. It’s part of his long game to normalize not paying student debt. Imagine doubting Biden the Builder at this point in his successful presidency.
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 The last person I would EVER vote for, deadass
ClashAndBurn Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 I find that hard to believe when a year ago, he was saying his administration's highest priority was restarting student loan payments, which he backed down from when he got heaped with a ton of backlash over it, given the reality of Delta, then Omicron surging. At this point, I think he feels he has the political capital to spend to restart the student debt crisis he helped design as its architect, as he always wanted to. And when he's got sycophants like... people in this very thread in his corner backing him up no matter what he does, it's not hard to see why he'd feel that way.
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 CHOKE, *****. Ms. Hageman truly deservingly MURDERED her (by an almost 40-point margin) Not her Trumpian ass resorting to fake news The fact that neolibs (especially KHive) are stanning that literally closet Republicans She made some points with her Hillary drag, but KARL MARX SWEETIE I'M SO SORRY THAT THIS WARMONGER HAG WOULD COMPARE YOU TO MS. TOP COP
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 ENOUGH. US taxpayers need to keep this "America Last" behavior in mind when they vote.
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 Based ?? Meanwhile Biden's Zionist ass is virtually ALWAYS on the wrong side of history (Trump teas)
Communion Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Kassi said: The boring reality is he’ll probably pause them again. It’s part of his long game to normalize not paying student debt. Imagine doubting Biden the Builder at this point in his successful presidency. I'm losing my mind over you reporting me for calling you Cruella DeVille (and it being labeled as an INSENSITIVE post) because you bragged that you hoped student debt isn't meaningfully cancelled and then turn around and try to frame Biden as someone invested in ending student debt when criticisms about his inaction comes up.
Kassi Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 44 minutes ago, Communion said: I'm losing my mind over you reporting me for calling you Cruella DeVille (and it being labeled as an INSENSITIVE post) because you bragged that you hoped student debt isn't meaningfully cancelled and then turn around and try to frame Biden as someone invested in ending student debt when criticisms about his inaction comes up. It might be some ops in here, mama. Cause I haven’t reported a post on ATRL since like 2013. If it makes you feel any better, I got a flamebait warning for saying that Nancy Pelosi would never be mentioned in the same sentence as Bernard if she were a man. Apparently that was “accusing all progressives of being sexist” or sumn to that effect vs the more logical conclusion that women’s political contributions go overlooked/are understated in US politics. Very smart stuff if you ask me. But idc either way. At the end the day, posting on a message board isn’t that important. The only thing that matters to me is turning Texas blue and stripping Republicans of the Presidency for a generation.
Communion Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kassi said: It might be some ops in here, mama. Cause I haven’t reported a post on ATRL since like 2013. If it makes you feel any better, I got a flamebait warning for saying that Nancy Pelosi would never be mentioned in the same sentence as Bernard if she were a man. Apparently that was “accusing all progressives of being sexist” or sumn to that effect vs the more logical conclusion that women’s political contributions go overlooked/are understated in US politics. Very smart stuff if you ask me. But idc either way. At the end the day, posting on a message board isn’t that important. The only thing that matters to me is turning Texas blue and stripping Republicans of the Presidency for a generation. Sis, I don't care who reported it. I'm talking about how it exemplifies the contradiction of electoral politics where those actually impacted by issues are faced with those who are not trying to weaponize respectability politics against them. Let alone comparing someone to a cartoon billionaire is not exactly in the realm of offense that it apparently could make you "not feel safe" as whoever warned it felt. Class privilege is real and it is part of why someone can take issue with you saying something that is *factually* incorrect like the post I quoted of yours that asserted student debt forgiveness is unpopular. Because it's not unpopular. It polls well and it's not like the prospect that some well-off people will benefit has ever stopped Dems, ie the mention of the PPP loans. All leading us back to you downplaying the urgency of student loans- and it not causing harm to you to theorize why you may not see said urgency due to personal biases - while then trying to frame Biden good on student debt. His lack of action isn't convincing debt companies that he's not on their side: I hope whoever took offense to comparing you to Cruella DeVille feels the same about posts about Pelosi's sun and star signs
ClashAndBurn Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 All I'm saying is that if they're going to be restarting payments, then them giving mixed signals to debt collectors a month and a half before the deadline, followed by them sending notices TWO WEEKS before the deadline while Biden continues to not act one way or the other is unacceptable and immoral. Especially if the debt collectors are misleading their borrowers into believing that their payments will be auto-debited when they are NOT, probably trying to trick them into defaulting. Biden and everyone who supports him doing this should be deeply ashamed of themselves. "But no, they have to resume collecting sometime! The pandemic is over because Joe Biden said so (even though he got infected just recently and had to be taken off his blood thinners, leaving him at higher risk of having a stroke and leaving us with his unelectable VP in charge)! "
Kassi Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, Communion said: Sis, I don't care who reported it. I'm talking about how it exemplifies the contradiction of electoral politics where those actually impacted by issues are faced with those who are not trying to weaponize respectability politics against them. Let alone comparing someone to a cartoon billionaire is not exactly in the realm of offense that it apparently could make you "not feel safe" as whoever warned it felt. Class privilege is real and it is part of why someone can take issue with you saying something that is *factually* incorrect like the post I quoted of yours that asserted student debt forgiveness is unpopular. Because it's not unpopular. It polls well and it's not like the prospect that some well-off people will benefit has ever stopped Dems, ie the mention of the PPP loans. All leading us back to you downplaying the urgency of student loans- and it not causing harm to you to theorize why you may not see said urgency due to personal biases - while then trying to frame Biden good on student debt. His lack of action isn't convincing debt companies that he's not on their side: I hope whoever took offense to comparing you to Cruella DeVille feels the same about posts about Pelosi's sun and star signs Never claimed that student loan forgiveness was wholly unpopular, but like every other issue (e.g. abortion), support is graded across a spectrum of outcomes. With the main premise of that particular post being, student debt forgiveness without tackling the cost of college could induce political backlash. Anyway, I’m good with full cancellation as long as Biden does it after my sis graduates in 2023.
Kassi Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 Also, no need to be astrologiphobic There’s enough room for everyone. We can always do an analysis on Bernie or AOCs birth chart to understand why they’re so unpersuasive and ineffective.
Communion Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) Quote Eighty-four percent of borrowers supported $10,000 of relief, 78% backed a jump to $50,000 and still two-thirds (68%) supported forgiving all student loan debt. Support was far weaker among respondents without student loans: Half supported $10,000 of relief, and just 37% supported full debt cancellation How convenient that the figure for $50k (the amount you pushed back on) is not included in the results for non-borrowers. Probably because, like with most other polls, it would have shown that there's little narrowing that happens from $10k to $50k and that to claim forgiving $50k is politically harmful is a lie given that there is repeatedly no substantial drop in support for forgiving $50k in student debt. And yes, when the difference between $10k and $50k is freeing less than a third versus freeing more than two-thirds of borrowers from debt, it is politically malpractice to not go for the more impactful policy that is still widely popular. Edited August 19, 2022 by Communion
DAP Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 I don’t doubt he said this earnestly which makes this all the funnier
Kassi Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 Speaking of Nancy’s birth chart, her transit patterns going into 2023 are quite telling. With Saturn moving into Aquarius around Q1 of 2022, we saw how work intensive this year was for Nancy with Roe overturned, inflation, soaring gas prices, and Taiwan. But Jupiter entering Pisces at the top of the year, trining her moon and sextiling her Taurus placements, offered a counterbalance to Saturn’s contraction and rigidity. Then, around May, Jupiter entered Aries, Nancy’s sun sign, and will continue its transit into Taurus (her strongest placement) through the rest of 2022. This clues us in to the fact that post Nov 2022, she should be riding high in abundance. I didn’t wanna be THAT astrology gay in here, but erhm, yeah, this combined with the way the polls are unexpectedly shifting… I’m quite optimistic, but cautious, in saying that Dems keep the House.
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 Both the current governor of California and also the current VP and former Senator of California can't get a higher percentage in California than the junior Senator of Vermont? Interesting And also note how Hillary is not in the top 5 despite winning the state in 2016
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) Oof nnn at Gisele seeing that Gorgeous, progressive, and funny, whew (and my height) Edited August 19, 2022 by rihannabiggestfan
MaRy Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 King Biden has come thru lately with his policies and saving the Senate and Democracy, never doubt him
Kassi Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/19/2022 at 1:59 AM, rihannabiggestfan said: ENOUGH. US taxpayers need to keep this "America Last" behavior in mind when they vote. How are US tax payers being robbed when only $50 million has been allocated to Ukraine while $70 million goes to CHIPS and $400 million goes to climate?
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