news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[Musicmajor]

6 minutes ago, i spit on haters said:

I hate how close this race is. I'm concerned, trying to remain optimistic but still concerned. Some election predictors have recently said Kamala will win and I still firmly believe women voters will carry this election, esp. in concerns of abortion rights. My nerves are more settled knowing that. But still. It's going to be a nail-biter. 

I understand you and am in the same boat. I think if she's prepped well, she can handle anything he throws at her. For example, if he starts rambling about her being the 'borderzar' and talking about the border, she can pivot and say something like "you literally called members of congress to shut down the bi partisan bill that would secure the border...so what are we talking about here?". I think she has the POTENTIAL to do well, if she doesn't let the nerves and pressure get to her. I hope her prosecutor background kicks in and helps her out as well. No way to cut it other than she has to preform really well, not only to set herself apart from Biden and kind of redeem the last debate, but to show that she is strong and can stand up to Trump & other world leaders. * prayer circle for Kamala *

[Sannie]

This Hatian thing is really something else. Like, Nazi Germany-level bigotry and lies. These are the people leftists are wanting to take over the country just to "stick it to the Dems"; people who are willing to spread vicious lies about black and brown people just to get their way. 

 

1 minute ago, Musicmajor said:

I understand you and am in the same boat. I think if she's prepped well, she can handle anything he throws at her. For example, if he starts rambling about her being the 'borderzar' and talking about the border, she can pivot and say something like "you literally called members of congress to shut down the bi partisan bill that would secure the border...so what are we talking about here?". I think she has the POTENTIAL to do well, if she doesn't let the nerves and pressure get to her. I hope her prosecutor background kicks in and helps her out as well. No way to cut it other than she has to preform really well, not only to set herself apart from Biden and kind of redeem the last debate, but to show that she is strong and can stand up to Trump & other world leaders. * prayer circle for Kamala *

I was thinking about this earlier and there is an answer for pretty much every attack the right has on Kamala since the attacks are all mostly made up. She just has to know how to present those answers.

Edited September 10 by Sannie

[tiejc]

Two polls showing Virginia Harris +8 by Washington Post and Harris +10 by Morning Consult makes me feel proud of my blue state

 

 

Edited September 10 by tiejc

[shelven]

1 hour ago, midnightdawn said:

Fav/unfav

• Walz: 42-37 (net: +5)

• Harris: 48-46 (+2)

• Trump: 46-50 (-4)

• Vance: 35-46 (-11)

 

https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1833445322023911836

 

At a certain point, it's worth asking whether it becomes a genuinely viable messaging strategy for the Harris campaign to start reminding everyone that Trump is old, clearly mentally unraveling, likely not physically healthy and so Vance is just an inch away from the presidency. Vance's favourables are consistently worse than Trump's (and anyone on either ticket), so I'm surprised they're not dedicating more of their messaging to trying to stoke fear of a potential Vance presidency should something happen to Trump. 
 

A big part of the messaging against Biden's age was "Biden is probably going to die midway through his next term and do you really want Kamala as your president??" In hindsight, that messaging is now kind of funny because of Harris's random skyrocketing in favourability after Biden dropped out, but it seemed to be working at the time. 

[Relampago.]

I still think she's gonna do meh at the debate which isn't great, but I just think it'll all be a big nothingburger of a debate. Won't hurt or help either of them, which is honestly worse for Harris since she has the capability to pull in more voters, while Trump hit his ceiling most likely and definitely won't lose any support.

[i spit on haters]

39 minutes ago, Sannie said:

These are the people leftists are wanting to take over the country just to "stick it to the Dems";

Not true. 

[Sannie]

33 minutes ago, tiejc said:

Two polls showing Virginia Harris +8 by Washington Post and Harris +10 by Morning Consult makes me feel proud of my blue state

 

 

The only Democrat ad I see on Twitter is the one from Tim Kaine looking sad that "we failed to reach our fundraising goal".  

 

 

3 minutes ago, i spit on haters said:

Not true. 

Whether people want to admit it, we live in a country where only one of two people will win. Any pushing for third-party voting is helping Trump and what I said is one of the implications that comes with that. I know this is something a lot of people to deny in order to make themselves feel better, but that's how it works here. 

Edited September 10 by Sannie

[midnightdawn]

Democrats are privately acknowledging growing anxiety over the Tuesday night debate between Vice President Harris and former President Trump, arguing that how Harris performs could go a long way in defining her as a candidate.

Ray Zaccaro, a Democratic strategist and former Senate aide, said Democrats are mindful that the high-stakes debate could be "catastrophic or monumental" after Biden's campaign was derailed by the June 27 debate against Trump.

He said Democrats were already nervously anticipating this week's debate at the height of the Democratic convention in Chicago, knowing an hour on stage could make or break a candidate who largely stayed out of the spotlight during her time as vice president.

"We were already moved on from the convention at the convention because of the anxiety of what this debate could actually turn out to look like. People are extremely anxious about her performance," he said. "There's a sense of real caution about expectations on her performance."

"Given how well her rollout has gone — I think there have been relatively few missteps and everything has gone according to plan — based on the current polling, it is somewhat surprising that she's not doing better in the polls. This is a make-or-break moment for Harris," he said.

"I don't think I've ever seen a candidate with more weight on a given moment than this candidate will have at the debate Tuesday," he added.  

A Democratic senator, who requested anonymity, said anxiety is running high within the party ahead of Harris taking the stage.

"Yeah, I'm nervous," the lawmaker said. "She's not tested. I think she is going to be as well-prepared as anyone could possibly be and they'll go over every foreseeable scenario" about what Trump may say or do on stage.

"I think the critical thing in this debate is for her to have three really good lines," the senator added.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4870510-harris-trump-debate-anxiety/

[FameFatale]

 

 

 

 

[Sannie]

19 minutes ago, shelven said:

At a certain point, it's worth asking whether it becomes a genuinely viable messaging strategy for the Harris campaign to start reminding everyone that Trump is old, clearly mentally unraveling, likely not physically healthy and so Vance is just an inch away from the presidency. Vance's favourables are consistently worse than Trump's (and anyone on either ticket), so I'm surprised they're not dedicating more of their messaging to trying to stoke fear of a potential Vance presidency should something happen to Trump. 
 

A big part of the messaging against Biden's age was "Biden is probably going to die midway through his next term and do you really want Kamala as your president??" In hindsight, that messaging is now kind of funny because of Harris's random skyrocketing in favourability after Biden dropped out, but it seemed to be working at the time. 

 And it would drive Trump fully mad lol. I would love for her to hit him with a li'l quip about his age tonight.

[dabunique]

 

[Relampago.]

6 minutes ago, midnightdawn said:

Democrats are privately acknowledging growing anxiety over the Tuesday night debate between Vice President Harris and former President Trump, arguing that how Harris performs could go a long way in defining her as a candidate.

Ray Zaccaro, a Democratic strategist and former Senate aide, said Democrats are mindful that the high-stakes debate could be "catastrophic or monumental" after Biden's campaign was derailed by the June 27 debate against Trump.

He said Democrats were already nervously anticipating this week's debate at the height of the Democratic convention in Chicago, knowing an hour on stage could make or break a candidate who largely stayed out of the spotlight during her time as vice president.

"We were already moved on from the convention at the convention because of the anxiety of what this debate could actually turn out to look like. People are extremely anxious about her performance," he said. "There's a sense of real caution about expectations on her performance."

"Given how well her rollout has gone — I think there have been relatively few missteps and everything has gone according to plan — based on the current polling, it is somewhat surprising that she's not doing better in the polls. This is a make-or-break moment for Harris," he said.

"I don't think I've ever seen a candidate with more weight on a given moment than this candidate will have at the debate Tuesday," he added.  

A Democratic senator, who requested anonymity, said anxiety is running high within the party ahead of Harris taking the stage.

"Yeah, I'm nervous," the lawmaker said. "She's not tested. I think she is going to be as well-prepared as anyone could possibly be and they'll go over every foreseeable scenario" about what Trump may say or do on stage.

"I think the critical thing in this debate is for her to have three really good lines," the senator added.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4870510-harris-trump-debate-anxiety/

Mmm, how is she not tested? She's been prepping and she already debated Mike Pence before. Sure, she's never debated Trump but that doesn't mean she isn't prepared.

[FameFatale]

I see congress is back today from their long break and they're already getting into ridiculous things

[midnightdawn]

10 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

Mmm, how is she not tested? She's been prepping and she already debated Mike Pence before. Sure, she's never debated Trump but that doesn't mean she isn't prepared.

It could be an attempt to lower expectations

[starsailor]

I'm so nervous! lmao. Can't believe it! I'm not even an amaerican gay lol. But this election is so important! It's the best chance to bury Tump forever (and, who knows, finally weaken the far-right for good)!
Kamala must end him tonight with wisdom and not fall into his low tricks. And destroy him with arguments but also attacking him when he starts to play the lowest games, cause the "I'm so better than that" game won't help her.
Oh! And she must destroy any chance of him making video edits for social medias of him "owning her". It will be difficult, but that's how they play the game.

But let's hope. They say she is very good in discussions, right? Trump won't have an easy way neither.

Edited September 10 by starsailor

[FameFatale]

Apparently Trump is wanting to bring out a MAGA hat and present it to Kamala on stage tonight because they say she's been copying his policies, especially the no tax on tips thing.  

[FameFatale]

 

[cloudbusting]

something about JD Vance potentially being in the line of succession repulses me more than the idea of Trump getting a second term 

 

while the democratic establishment continues to disappoint me, the republican offerings are truly just a foul lineup of beasts

[i spit on haters]

41 minutes ago, Sannie said:

 

 

 

Whether people want to admit it, we live in a country where only one of two people will win. Any pushing for third-party voting is helping Trump and what I said is one of the implications that comes with that. I know this is something a lot of people to deny in order to make themselves feel better, but that's how it works here. 

But you're making it seem like those who are supporting third-party candidates is unique to leftists. And again, that is not true. They're supporting said third-party candidate for policy reasons and they morally don't feel comfortable supporting a democratic candidate who, at the very least. can't even openly condemn a ongoing genocide. No one votes third-party candidates genuinely thinking they're going to win. I voted green party in the last election because I refuse to vote for Biden. And wasn't going to if he were still in the race. Independents, who aren't leftists, are often third-party voters because they loath both parties. Neoliberals oppose very popular policies just to stick it to leftists. Even those the same popular policies would keep dems in power because it's beneficial to its base. Voters want actual substantive change, not more of the status quo, and that is one of Kamala's issues right now. She still isn't seen as that much different from Biden. Leftists want to 'stick it to the dems' but the dems have been sticking it to their voters for decades. It's largely why we got Trump in the first place and why so many life-long dem voters shifted over to Trump. Even after voting for Obama twice. 

[Armani?]

The Haitian migrant story will backfire if they keep talking about it

[Blade]

Trump is going to spew a lot of lies tonight including Kamala locking up thousands upon thousands of Black men and how she led to the "migrant takeover" of that apartment. Stuff like that. I fear she needs to not just defend herself but attack Trump as well. She can't just say "that's not true" and move on. Bring up the central park 5. Bring up Trump calling for police immunity and how that will disproportionately affect unarmed Black men.

 

Does anyone else think it'd be a good idea for her closing statement to refer to a fact checker on her website for all the lies Trump will tell tonight? Trump will be the one who gets the final word. He could say some things she cannot offer a rebuttal.

[Mike91]

17 minutes ago, FameFatale said:

Apparently Trump is wanting to bring out a MAGA hat and present it to Kamala on stage tonight because they say she's been copying his policies, especially the no tax on tips thing.  

Hopefully she takes it and stomps on it.

[FameFatale]

They've been pushing the "people who worked with him won't endorse him" route and I don't think that is sticking with undecided voters. I think most of the undecided voters know how he is, they want more about her and her policy and personal details. That's why they're stuck in the middle. 
 

 

 

[GhostBox]

2 minutes ago, Mike91 said:

Hopefully she takes it and stomps on it.

I think The rules state no props so if he breaks this rule I'd be like "ok let's unmute the mics Donald" he would obviously agree because he doesn't wanna seem weak 😂

[Armani?]

3 minutes ago, Blade said:

Trump is going to spew a lot of lies tonight including Kamala locking up thousands upon thousands of Black men and how she led to the "migrant takeover" of that apartment. Stuff like that. I fear she needs to not just defend herself but attack Trump as well. She can't just say "that's not true" and move on. Bring up the central park 5. Bring up Trump calling for police immunity and how that will disproportionately affect unarmed Black men.

 

Does anyone else think it'd be a good idea for her closing statement to refer to a fact checker on her website for all the lies Trump will tell tonight? Trump will be the one who gets the final word. He could say some things she cannot offer a rebuttal.

He wants to bring back stop and frisk as well. But if there's a law enforcement/crime question Trump will probably say it himself