ClashAndBurn Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: So much can happen between now and 2028. For all we know, Biden will step down in the middle of his second term and Harris will be president by then If Biden does lose to the republican nominee in 2024, Harris could easily become a Walter Mondale type figure in 2028 OR if Biden loses in 2024 and Stacey Abrams wins the Georgia gubernatorial this current year, she could probably beat Harris in a primary Now if Biden wins his second term and some how makes it through the whole term, Harris will probably be guaranteed the nomination like you said. Many possibilities for 2028 As someone who actually lives in the state that Stacey Abrams is running in... she's not winning the governor's mansion. Brian Kemp is a popular incumbent, and the yeehaw vote in Appalachia and South Georgia (the rural parts of the state) will be more than enough to re-elect him easily. I don't know if you know this, but... Walter Mondale WAS the nominee in 1984 and he had the most horrifically embarrassing loss in the Electoral College ever. Also, Harris getting into the presidency "through the back door" won't suddenly make her more electable as an incumbent either. She could very well go the way of LBJ in that scenario, who was so unpopular by 1968 that he couldn't even survive the highly contested primary in which the guy he was losing to got assassinated, and his VP, who won through backroom deals as a result, lost horribly in the general that year too. I can say for certain. Nobody is beating Harris in a primary. The DNC will not allow it. They will be all in on making sure she gets spammed as "the only possible option" because if they don't, then they run the risk of alienating the black women they've been pandering to from the very moment Kamala was announced as Joe Biden's running-mate.
Thuggin Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 The way the Forward Party’s platform is literally just vibes
Kassi Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Vroom Vroom said: So much can happen between now and 2028. I think about this a lot tbh. The way no one saw either Obama or Trump coming. The 2024 candidate could even be a celebrity or someone who’s name we don’t know yet. That’s the trippy part of politics, the only constant is truly change. *cue spooky music*
ClashAndBurn Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, Thuggin said: The way the Forward Party’s platform is literally just vibes Yang didn't even impress me much during the primary, but for him to go from UBI (which is admittedly going to be very necessary to... this... literally a nightmare. Then again, Democrats also run on just platitudes and vibes. To an extent, the Republicans do as well, but they also exist to make life worse for everyone and actually follow through sometimes when it comes to tax cuts and starving the government.
ClashAndBurn Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Kassi said: Here's to hoping his ass gets primaried by Ayanna in 2026.
spree Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Thuggin said: The way the Forward Party’s platform is literally just vibes I actually was rooting for Yang in the last election, but this is embarrassing. Yes you DO need to have a position. You aren't going to get the popular vote by being wishy-washy, lol.
ClashAndBurn Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 Anyway, not only does Markey need to go now, but Warren should retire. She's embarrassed herself enough. She's a joke. She's been a joke since her DNA test. What Ted Cruz said here is disgusting, though.
Kassi Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 Hmm. Couldn’t sleep so I looked up Nancy’s birth chart for the first time and it’s quite intense… Quote Sun in 5° 23' Aries Moon in 8° 51' Scorpio https://astro-charts.com/persons/chart/nancy-pelosi/ …the Sun/Moon combination, and then all of that Taurus. An immovable bull. There’s definitely an empathy breakdown in her entire chart. You can tell she 100% believes that the ends justify the means, and the fact that she’s ideologically aligned with left wing politics is definitely a saving grace, but yeah, she also likely feels like it’s a one woman show and that government should bend to her will. It’s equal parts scary and alluring. That would explain her going up against Reagan in the 80s (as a freshman congresswoman!), Bush in the 00s, and Trump in the 10s. Or even now with her taking on China on this Taiwan situation without caring how it affects Biden.
Kassi Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 Hmm. Couldn’t sleep so I looked up Nancy’s birth chart for the first time and it’s quite intense… Quote Sun in 5° 23' Aries Moon in 8° 51' Scorpio https://astro-charts.com/persons/chart/nancy-pelosi/ …the Sun/Moon combination, and then all of that Taurus. An immovable bull. There’s definitely an empathy breakdown in her entire chart. You can tell she 100% believes that the ends justify the means, and the fact that she’s ideologically aligned with left wing politics is definitely a saving grace, but yeah, she also likely feels like it’s a one woman show and that government should bend to her will. It’s equal parts scary and alluring. That would explain her going up against Reagan in the 80s (as a freshman congresswoman!), Bush in the 00s, and Trump in the 10s. Or even now with her taking on China on this Taiwan situation without caring how it affects Biden.
Communion Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Thuggin said: The way the Forward Party’s platform is literally just vibes The way this is unironically the "Democrats are a big tent party" rhetoric removed from the branding.
Vermillion Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 12 hours ago, Kassi said: I’ll say it here and now for us to review in 2024, but Glenn Youngkin has a better shot at the Presidency than DeSantis. Virginian here! Hard no to that assertion. You're creating national hype for Youngkin that doesn't exist. He's not seen as embracing the culture wars tightly enough as DeSantis. He's Mitt Romney in DeSantis clothing. Youngkin is DeSantis' culture wars for hedge funders while DeSantis attracts both the latter and the culturally resentful white working class. Gillespie switched to DeSantis-lite last minute during the Trump era and lost. Youngkin played as a DeSantis disciple his entire campaign right after Biden won and won. Virginia is a hyper-swinging, turnout based purple state which shouldn't be compared to other purple states that largely serves as backlash to the prior presidential party win. Also Youngkin needs more than one term to build a national profile he can't get based on the Virginia constitution while DeSantis will be winning Florida this November handily. The hypothetical is pointless to argue, but post-Roe if Youngkin were able to run again in Virginia he would lose. Turnout was higher with Dems but Republican turnout was at presidential levels but that had nothing to do with the candidate based on the studies afterwards, it was all policy driven. Covid depressed Dem base turnout, Christopher Rufo's CRT and the Fairfax sex assault scandal boosted conservative turnout. After all of that the candidate problems did kick in with McAuliffe's comments about teachers and the classroom which was the nail in the coffin. Any candidate further left of McAuliffe I strongly believe also would have lost to Youngkin, but again that's not a reflection of national profile.
dabunique Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 So 14 FBI Whistleblowers came to Jim Jordan personally to speak on da corruption in da FBI? and now he wants to take action ... i'm confused, is this da same Jim Jordan who knew about sexual assault allegations on da OSU Wrestling Team but chose to ignore it? this can't be da same guy right? LOL
spree Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 Biden should step down and let Carter run again for his 2nd term.
Vermillion Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 Are Paxton's crimes just so obvious that enough independents feel shame to have Garza's numbers be near the margin-of-error? Is the inability to translate that to Abbott with the troops that died by suicide for Abbott's border chaos, hundreds of juveniles that are committing suicide for a state prison system in anarchy, dozens that have died by freezing or scorching temperatures for his failed state energy grid, and thousands have been wasted in taxpayer dollars for his migrant bus tours to DC and NYC with contractors connected to his campaign all struck down because of Beto's comments on AK-47's? Is that really all it comes down to?
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