Ashley Banks Posted September 7 Posted September 7 4 hours ago, dman4life said: One important thing to remember Trump is NOT growing any support. Trump's political brand has been widely known for a long time now and anyone undecided atp just needs a reason to vote FOR Kamala and her main objective should be to give them a reason on Tuesday.ย ย Begging someone to stay on message and giving them brownie points for giving a coherent sentence is such a ridiculously low bar and this needs to be called out more in msm. It's a ridiculously low bar that he STILL can't meet most of the timeย ย This is why I think endorsements from Republicans are good, even if I hate those Republicans. It gives older Republican voters permission to vote for Harris instead of leaving it blank. As long as those people don't get a role in the administration or any policy concessions, it's fine. 5
dman4life Posted September 7 Posted September 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, hausofdave said: ย She's ready to give that man he'll ob the debate stage! It's giving "Debate II: Biden's Revenge"ย Edited September 7 by dman4life 1
Relampago. Posted September 7 Posted September 7 1 hour ago, justin. said: Thank you. You'll never see me praise that man in my life.ย ย On the topic of the debate, I don't think it's going to move the needle much. It's going to be a nail biter until the votes are counted. It will only move the needle if Donny serves incoherent in a Biden type of way AND if Kamala stomps. I think only the latter will happen and Trump will ramble on just enough to get a pass. 1
Relampago. Posted September 7 Posted September 7 2 hours ago, tiejc said: ย While I still have my reservations about Kamala, I can't help but feel that having a president who's able to connect with people like a normal person and be an example is so important.ย ย I can see such a difference between people around my age who grew up with an Obama presidency vs. a Trump-era one. The president has so much influence over culture, and Trump unleashed such an ugly rot in this country. People don't all know about Obama's mass deportations and mass drone strikes, not that they don't matter, but if someone doesn't know then all they see is a Black man making history and conducts himself as a leader. Trump's goofy ass made everyone think that's how they can act too, is it any wonder the Andrew Tates of the world and young content creators like Adin Ross became so popular after that? ย There's a very big importance of a president being an outwardly good/normal person. I'll step on Kamala's neck for the next 4 years, but I can't fault her for presenting herself in a presidential way. I really enjoy her as a person, outside of her politics. I want to have drinks and dinner with her for sure. 6 5
ultraviolence.xx Posted September 7 Posted September 7 (edited) 5 hours ago, tiejc said: ย omg this is soooo cute i simply HAVE to let her girlboss for a moment ย Edited September 7 by ultraviolence.xx 1
Communion Posted September 7 Posted September 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: ย ljnkjknjn this being in the back of my head the entire time reading all of these posts about Dick ******* Cheney.ย ย ย Am I still bitter? Maybe Edited September 7 by Communion 1
Virgos Groove Posted September 7 Posted September 7 I can't wait for the ยซRespectable bipartisan Donald Trump endorses Pete Buttigieg, calls GOP nominee Ghost of Adolf Hitler 'a threat to democracy'ยป headlines in 2036. You know they're coming. ย 5
Relampago. Posted September 7 Posted September 7 40 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: ย If Kissinger were still alive to endorse Kamala, they would turn a blind eye to his 4 million+ death count too ย ย The Cheney revisionist history has been wild to witness.
GhostBox Posted September 7 Posted September 7 46 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: ย For a woman who has the word "Joy" in her name she sure doenst ever seem like she's experiencing any of it. Just constant negativity every single day. ๐ 1 2 1
Virgos Groove Posted September 7 Posted September 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: ย Possibly unpopular opinion (maybe not here, but certainly in lib spaces): Bush and Cheney were worse than Trump. Yes, Trump's domestic policy was a disaster, but Bush/Cheney were hardly anything to brag about. ย When it comes to foreign policy, it's not close. From starting two disastrous wars that killed 1M+ people, helped foster the rise of ISIS and indirecty started the biggest refugee crisis since WW2, to inviting Ukraine to join NATO against the explicit wishes of France and Germany, to setting up the Guantanamo Bay torture camp, to allegedly supporting a coup in Venezuela, I don't think people remember just how damaged US reputation worldwide was when GWB left office. ย This is not to whitewash Trump's foreign policy, which was also terrible, from supporting an unelected president in Venezuela, to backing a right-wing coup in Bolivia, to destroying the Iran nuclear deal, to his unabashed backing of Israel, to scrapping the Cuban thaw. But he did at least have the common sense to not give full support to Bolton's jingoism when it came to Venezuela, and I've always been unconfortable with how Dems will attack him from the right. Like when he met Putin and Dems were like "OMG, he met Putin!!1! How dare he???" or when they ran an ad criticizing him for... not sactioning Venezuela enough? ย It shows just how far to the right the spectrum has gotten when the Dems' narrative post-2016 is exactly the same Republicans used in the early-00s. Edited September 7 by Virgos Groove 2 2
monologueNacafe Posted September 7 Posted September 7 I'm in Branson, MO and they literally have a Trump outlet store and we drove past a some kind of Trump rally ย ย and most of the people here are so friendly. It's scaryย
Sannie Posted September 7 Posted September 7 3 hours ago, GhostBox said: more threats of violence and bloodshedย Don't think many people understand that millions of Americans will be swept up in a "mass deportation" operation. Or maybe they don't care. ย Mass deportation cannot work if the system is selective. It does not work if the agents in charge have to go from person to person being like, "can I see your identification please?" No, it only works if a wide net is thrown to pull in as many people as possible and then dealing with the "wrong ones being pulled in" later. Mass deportation only works by racially profiling anyone who looks brown and then worrying about if they're actually undocumented at a later date. This means millions of American citizens will be sent to camps only to then have to fight to prove that they are citizens while millions of undocumented people are being processed. Millions of Americans will be trapped inside these camps for days, weeks, months, or even years. ย I know people don't like this comparison, but that's exactly how the Holocaust occurred. The Nazis didn't just use documentation to identify Jews, they were also often just like, "yeah, you look like a Jew, off to the camps". I know several Conservatives who are married to Latinas or could be mistaken as Latino themselves... so careful what you wish for. This will also lead to paranoia around the country which will only further the racial profiling. This will affect nearly every single brown person in this country because most white people are too ******* dumb to differentiate between races when it comes to being anything other than pale white. ย 2 hours ago, Relampago. said: While I still have my reservations about Kamala, I can't help but feel that having a president who's able to connect with people like a normal person and be an example is so important.ย ย I can see such a difference between people around my age who grew up with an Obama presidency vs. a Trump-era one. The president has so much influence over culture, and Trump unleashed such an ugly rot in this country. People don't all know about Obama's mass deportations and mass drone strikes, not that they don't matter, but if someone doesn't know then all they see is a Black man making history and conducts himself as a leader. Trump's goofy ass made everyone think that's how they can act too, is it any wonder the Andrew Tates of the world and young content creators like Adin Ross became so popular after that? ย There's a very big importance of a president being an outwardly good/normal person. I'll step on Kamala's neck for the next 4 years, but I can't fault her for presenting herself in a presidential way. I really enjoy her as a person, outside of her politics. I want to have drinks and dinner with her for sure. People underestimate just how important the person at the top being "good", or at least giving off the image of "good" is. We talk about how much misogyny has skyrocketed over the past ten years and how young men are being brainwashed... well, it's because for a lot of these young boys' lives, they had a ******* sexist rapist as President lol. My hope is that a woman in power maybe, possibly could have a positive impact to break the stereotype that women are weak that so many Americans instinctually have. 3 1
Communion Posted September 7 Posted September 7 21 minutes ago, Sannie said: Don't think many people understand that millions of Americans will be swept up in a "mass deportation" operation. Or maybe they don't care. ย Thoughts on Biden-Harris Republican-written immigration bill soft-launching mass deportations by allowing border patrol to deport the undocumented (and those who'll be caught in the crosshairs) within just 6 hours? ย ย
BeenTheShit Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Another active shooting currently unfolding in Kentucky.ย The suspect is still at large. ย
FameFatale Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Why is this giving boomer Facebook copy and paste "don't use my pictures better safe than sorry" posts ย ย ย ย 3
GhostBox Posted September 8 Posted September 8 10 minutes ago, FameFatale said: Why is this giving boomer Facebook copy and paste "don't use my pictures better safe than sorry" posts ย ย ย ย Do people really wanna have another 4 years of these childish antics? ๐ 1
choerry Posted September 8 Posted September 8 41 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: Another active shooting currently unfolding in Kentucky.ย The suspect is still at large. ย This is like half an hour from me. I was driving on that highway just a couple days ago.ย
Blankspace2010 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 19 minutes ago, FameFatale said: Why is this giving boomer Facebook copy and paste "don't use my pictures better safe than sorry" posts ย ย ย ย I have to admit - despite having reservations of democrats. They're the lesser of evils and if I could vote - I'd be making sure Trump wasn't elected.ย 4
Bears01 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 2 hours ago, Virgos Groove said: I can't wait for the ยซRespectable bipartisan Donald Trump endorses Pete Buttigieg, calls GOP nominee Ghost of Adolf Hitler 'a threat to democracy'ยป headlines in 2036. You know they're coming. ย I JUST said this to my mom todayย ย like, think about who the Democratic parties biggest enemies have been over the course of the last 50 years. You've got the 3 headsman of evil: Regan, Trump and Cheney.ย ย If there comes a time in the next decade or 2 when Eric/jr are coming out against the GOP nominee as a "grave threat to our country, therefore I must endorse *insert DEM candidate here" I don't wanna live on this planet anymoreย 3
Communion Posted September 8 Posted September 8 35 minutes ago, Sannie said: People underestimate just how important the person at the top being "good", or at least giving off the image of "good" is. We talk about how much misogyny has skyrocketed over the past ten years and how young men are being brainwashed... well, it's because for a lot of these young boys' lives, they had a ******* sexist rapist as President lol. Also not to nitpick you unnecessarily, but since it ties into @Virgos Groove's point about retconning Trump as the #SourceOfAllEvil. ย Trump is the product of toxic masculinity and its increased relevance in culture. He is not the source of it. His popularity was driven by its existence. You don't defeat misogyny by defeating Trump. You only defeat Trump's ideology by defeating misogyny. Electing Obama did not defeat racism. This is not to dismiss representational politics as having any benefit, because that's not what I'm saying, but you can't source every problem back to Trump.ย ย Did George W. Bush's administration respect women when they were bombing starving mothers and children?ย 5 2
GhostBox Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Trump isn't the cause or originator of what's happening in our country but he has made it worse. He took the bad under currents and made them mainstream and gave them more life and Permission. It's honestly ย never been this divided and nasty my entire life. ย And it got worse in 2015-2016. When Trump came on the scene politically.ย 1
Armani? Posted September 8 Posted September 8 With gas prices slightly down do we expect to see a favorability boost from that side of the electorate? 1
i spit on haters Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Nate Silver's ***** ass says Trump will win. Should I be concerned.
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