GhostBox Posted August 31 Posted August 31 The trumpets making Tim having a maga ย brother he hasn't even spoken to in 8 years seem like a bad thingโฆ..for Tim ๐๐ ย like cool I have two maga brothers ๐ he's even more relatable than we initially thoughtย ย 1
shelven Posted August 31 Posted August 31 ย I really hope they don't actually go the "he's old" route because that will SO easily backfire ย All Trump has to say in response is "well if you're so worried about how old I am, why did you spend months lying to the American people that Biden was fit to serve another term when he's even older than I am?" 4 2 1
FameFatale Posted August 31 Posted August 31 54 minutes ago, GhostBox said: The trumpets making Tim having a maga ย brother he hasn't even spoken to in 8 years seem like a bad thingโฆ..for Tim ๐๐ ย like cool I have two maga brothers ๐ he's even more relatable than we initially thoughtย ย They did the same thing to Obama. Just grasping at anything.ย 1
Relampago. Posted August 31 Posted August 31 34 minutes ago, shelven said: ย I really hope they don't actually go the "he's old" route because that will SO easily backfire ย All Trump has to say in response is "well if you're so worried about how old I am, why did you spend months lying to the American people that Biden was fit to serve another term when he's even older than I am?" Absolutely, Harris should be careful of anything that can be quickly turned around on Biden, because she'll unfortunately have to do the tricky job of defending him without excusing him or looking like she's going to run the same administration he did.ย ย She should approach it in a way that makes it more about Biden's loyalty to his country and him setting his pride aside for the greater good, rather than hone in on the age thing. Pointing out that Trump will be 82 years old during his term and should he experience extreme cognitive decline during his term, he will never set his pride aside and allow someone else more mentally fit to run the country like Biden did. ย If he fires back with Harris defending Biden's ability to run the country, she can say she always respected his ability to make the right decision because he was always loyal to his duty as the president, so she trusted him to make the decision to continue running, just as she trusted him when he made the decision to drop out of the race. 5
GhostBox Posted August 31 Posted August 31 39 minutes ago, Relampago. said: Absolutely, Harris should be careful of anything that can be quickly turned around on Biden, because she'll unfortunately have to do the tricky job of defending him without excusing him or looking like she's going to run the same administration he did.ย ย She should approach it in a way that makes it more about Biden's loyalty to his country and him setting his pride aside for the greater good, rather than hone in on the age thing. Pointing out that Trump will be 82 years old during his term and should he experience extreme cognitive decline during his term, he will never set his pride aside and allow someone else more mentally fit to run the country like Biden did. ย If he fires back with Harris defending Biden's ability to run the country, she can say she always respected his ability to make the right decision because he was always loyal to his duty as the president, so she trusted him to make the decision to continue running, just as she trusted him when he made the decision to drop out of the race. Yup this is the way to go about it and I'm sure she will.ย
Communion Posted August 31 Posted August 31 Not sure if already posted but sharing for visibility if it's of interest to anyone poll-watching: ย ย 3 3
shelven Posted August 31 Posted August 31 ย I really wish we were getting more polling from the Nebraska Senate race. There's no Dem running, so it's a Republican vs. an Independent. Polls commissioned by the Independent have shown basically a tied race, but polls commissioned by the Republican have shown a GOP blowout. We're now gotten the first high-quality non-partisan poll of the race and the Republican is only leading by 1 ย I think it's pretty likely she ends up winning, but it's been a super interesting race that not nearly enough people are paying attention to. 1 1
Communion Posted August 31 Posted August 31 4 minutes ago, nadiamendell said: ย ย ย Kamala, your move!ย ย A candidate with no real political identity - for example... a public and private position - having to navigate Trump's willingness to appear to support populist policies not normally associated with conservatives.... where did I remember seeing this before?ย ย 3
dabunique Posted August 31 Posted August 31 40 minutes ago, nadiamendell said: ย ย ย Kamala, your move!ย ย He supports it today and tomorrow he will be against it ๐ย 1 3
Sannie Posted August 31 Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Relampago. said: Absolutely, Harris should be careful of anything that can be quickly turned around on Biden, because she'll unfortunately have to do the tricky job of defending him without excusing him or looking like she's going to run the same administration he did.ย ย She should approach it in a way that makes it more about Biden's loyalty to his country and him setting his pride aside for the greater good, rather than hone in on the age thing. Pointing out that Trump will be 82 years old during his term and should he experience extreme cognitive decline during his term, he will never set his pride aside and allow someone else more mentally fit to run the country like Biden did. ย If he fires back with Harris defending Biden's ability to run the country, she can say she always respected his ability to make the right decision because he was always loyal to his duty as the president, so she trusted him to make the decision to continue running, just as she trusted him when he made the decision to drop out of the race. 100% agree. She could easily shut him down with a simple, "President Biden stepped down for the betterment of the country. You're the same age, so why don't you put the country first" or something more eloquent lol. Every criticism he can lob about President Biden now only applies to him. 2 1
Relampago. Posted August 31 Posted August 31 51 minutes ago, nadiamendell said: ย ย ย Kamala, your move!ย ย If Trump of all people begins pushing Kamala leftโฆ ddd ย 5
GhostBox Posted August 31 Posted August 31 19 minutes ago, Relampago. said: If Trump of all people begins pushing Kamala leftโฆ ddd ย Didn't the Biden admin basically already come out for this ?ย 3
FameFatale Posted August 31 Posted August 31 19 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Didn't the Biden admin basically already come out for this ?ย They reclassified it and lessened restrictions.ย 2 1
Communion Posted August 31 Posted August 31 17 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Didn't the Biden admin basically already come out for this ?ย He could have announced something in the last days of his re-election campaign, but from what I remember, no. ย He requested that it be re-scheduled, taking ages to make that request despite running on it in 2020, with the head of the DEA still reviewing the request. ย ย Biden ran on decriminalization of marijuana (not legalization), and while rescheduling is not the same as decriminalization, the 2024 DNC platform worriedly removed any talks of decriminalization, let alone put anything forward about legalization.ย ย ย 2 3
Communion Posted August 31 Posted August 31 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FameFatale said: They reclassified it and lessened restrictions.ย For clarity, nothing has actually been reclassified nor changed within federal guidance on marijuana, due to Biden slow-walking the recommendation process with the DEA. Edited August 31 by Communion 2 4
Armani? Posted August 31 Posted August 31 8 minutes ago, Communion said: ย Biden ran on decriminalization of marijuana (not legalization), and while rescheduling is not the same as decriminalization, the 2024 DNC platform worriedly removed any talks of decriminalization, let alone put anything forward about legalization.ย ย ย I really don't get the point at this point? Is putting people in prison for it still that profitable for them?
Tovitov Posted August 31 Posted August 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, nadiamendell said: ย ย ย Kamala, your move!ย ย He said he supports the Florida Amendment "if done correctly" and that he "has concerns". Seems like a stretch to equate that with legalization nationwide.ย ย Edit:ย ย "We need the State Legislature to responsibly create laws that prohibit the use of it in public spaces, so we do not smell marijuana everywhere we go, like we do in many of the Democrat run Cities." ย Edited August 31 by Tovitov 2 2
Communion Posted August 31 Posted August 31 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Armani? said: I really don't get the point at this point? Is putting people in prison for it still that profitable for them? Dems mistakenly think the subsets of white suburbanites who associate weed smoking with "troublesome youths" and crime are a larger majority than they are. ย Dems basically have long viewed the presidency as a symbolic role outside of drone strikes that should telegraph what the party imagines is the median centrist voter nationally, despite that their ideas of who is likely to vote Democrat proving deadly wrong in 2016. ย This was the main primary fight post-2016. You had people like Pelosi basically argue Democrats must be centrists the closer they get to national politics, and told the insurgency of progressives trying to run primaries in 2018 to **** off and focus on local and state-level politics in deep blue states. So much so people like Pelosi were fighting for anti-abortion Dems who were "more electable" over pro-choice progressive women challengers. ย Dems are making the same mistake with weed that they did with abortion. Hoping states will do the work for them so that they don't have to ever upset any voters nationally. People forget that pre-Dobbs, Dems had no issue supporting anti-choice Democrats in order to win. ย Edited August 31 by Communion 1 1
Sannie Posted August 31 Posted August 31 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Armani? said: I really don't get the point at this point? Is putting people in prison for it still that profitable for them? Yes, it is. But it's not just money that comes from putting people in prison, it's also money from putting people on probation/parole, in drug classes, and all the other things that comes with not being put in jail for drug offenses. Every time you have to see your probation officer, $$$, every time you have to go to drug classes, $$$, every time you have to take a drug test, $$$. You pay when you are in prison and you pay to not be put in prison. It's insane. Edited August 31 by Sannie 1
ultraviolence.xx Posted August 31 Posted August 31 7 minutes ago, Tovitov said: Edit:ย ย "We need the State Legislature to responsibly create laws that prohibit the use of it in public spaces, so we do not smell marijuana everywhere we go, like we do in many of the Democrat run Cities." ย ok im sorry but this ***** is ******* funnyyyyyyyyyy 1 1
Relampago. Posted August 31 Posted August 31 Marijuana legalization being seeing as "too left" and unrealistic meanwhile states like Arizona, Montana, Missouri, Alaska, Nevada, Ohio, etc are all legalizing isโฆ wild.ย ย Its obviously not unpopular, and the fact we're still acting like it's a pipe dream or we're asking for legal heroin is so weird ย 2 4
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