GhostBox Posted August 30 Posted August 30 The way he's leaning against that chair and talking so incoherently. Also the fact he's still stuck on the "weird" thing 😂 1
State of Grace. Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) Once again, giving "unequivocal" support for a genocide. Once again, mentioning the number of deaths from Oct 7th but "far too many" Palestinians have been killed (HOW many? WHO killed them?). Once again, perpetuating the "mass rape" trope that's been debunked several times, yet totally ignoring the systemic rape that's being done by Israel against Palestinians. Once again, straight up refusing an arms embargo, completely out of touch with her voters, and right before Walz talking about ending gun violence against children. LOL. When Biden lied about seeing nonexistent pictures of beheaded babies and Hamas "burning women and children alive", he was a senile hag and a genocidal ghoul. What's this lady's excuse? This yalls "empathetic" and "potentially good for Palestine" candidate? She is just the same genocidal monster. Edited August 30 by State of Grace. 2 4 2
Armani? Posted August 30 Posted August 30 22 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Trump blowing up the immigration bill was politically stupid sorta. Now every time he tries to attack her on immigration (and will do so in the debate) she can bring that up. It's stupid but it gets canceled out by Democrats not criticizing Trump for tanking the bill, but making "closing the border" a part of their platform & making ads for it. No one is voting for her for that in the end, it just makes her look hypocritical also since they were pro immigration just 1 cycle ago lol 2 1
Rotunda Posted August 30 Posted August 30 42 minutes ago, Communion said: Dana: "Southern ummm...... countries" Kamala: "Yes, in my role overseeing the root causes of immigration from countries within North and South America" The loaded ass questioning. Her also mispronouncing Dana Bash's name. I thought she said Northern Central America here
BOOMBAYAH Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Walz was dodging those questions like the plague I don't think he means harm but the little mistakes in his speech do catch up, I hope it doesn't become something that is used to paint him as a liar.
Relampago. Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Sannie said: Very true. She is good at answering other questions in a way that pleases most people. She can come up with something about this. Her canned response feels cold now. She really needs to approach it in a way that shows true compassion for the Palestinian people and holds Israel accountable for wanton destruction and violence. It's really not a controversial stance to say that Israel is literally wasting Americans' tax dollars on obliterating brown children and their unarmed parents. Morality aside, because somehow a genocide is not convincing enough, I think that's an excellent point to make. Affirm Israel's right to defend itself but make the distinction that "defense" is not the same as wasting American resources on ethnic cleansing fantasies. Would be incredibly hypocritical coming from someone running for President of the United States, but the American public doesn't know or care about that. Edited August 30 by Relampago. 5
Communion Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rotunda said: I thought she said Northern Central America here Probably. I was transcribing quickly, trying to catch what was said. The intent wasn't to suggest something of what Harris said but to highlight Dana flubbing her question, seeming unsure of what she was trying to ask, and Kamala correcting her. See also: Kamala having to correct Dana on what she meat by "decade". Genuinely a horrific interviewer. Edited August 30 by Communion 1 1
BOOMBAYAH Posted August 30 Posted August 30 I do think Kamala is leaning too much to the centre/right, it almost seems like she's afraid to talk about any left-wing/progressive stance or policy at length. Like, she looked petrified to even imply that her being a woman and POC would be something that would inspire others. I think she should aim to strike a balance whilst campaigning; after all, most people who are voting for her as doing so because she represents the progressive party. 1
Mariah4life Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) Those who don't like her response to Israel, what the hell would you have said? She's running to win the battle, not lose supporters. It seems she's obviously against Israel actions but half the country and the entire U.S. history we are Israel ass kisser. She cannot risk our relationship with Israel. Edited August 30 by Mariah4life 2
Rotunda Posted August 30 Posted August 30 1 minute ago, Communion said: Probably. I was transcribing quickly, trying to catch what was said. The intent wasn't to suggest something of what Harris said but to highlight Dana flubbing her question, seeming unsure of what she was trying to ask, and Kamala correcting her. See also: Kamala having to correct Dana on what she meat by "decade". Genuinely a horrific interviewer. Separate but related - I don't know if something has just been happening to the journalistic profession as a whole lately but I've been…unenthused by what feels like a concerted shift away from asking a follow-up question when someone is BSing you. 1
FameFatale Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) Ooof edit: ended up not a real poll! Edited August 30 by FameFatale 4
shelven Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Suddenly becoming your party's nominee for president after the incumbent announces they're not running for re-election... randomly pivoting your positions to whatever sounds like the American electorate will want to hear in the moment... being a history-making woman but also sometimes coming across like you don't want people talking about how you're a woman... welcome back Vice President Selina Meyer 1 6 1
Communion Posted August 30 Posted August 30 1 minute ago, Mariah4life said: Those who don't like her response to Israel, what the hell would you have said? "I support the rule of law and agree with the majority of Americans that we must pause all arms sales to Israel until a ceasefire is reached." 3 1
Rotunda Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Just now, FameFatale said: Ooof Please be serious for a second
State of Grace. Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mariah4life said: Those who doesn't like her response to Israel, what the hell would you have said? She's running to win the battle, not lose supporters. It seems she's obviously against Israel actions but half the country and the entire U.S. history we are Israel ass kisser. She cannot risk our relationship with Israel. Her supporters literally disagree with her stance????? Quote It seems she's obviously against Israel actions We've been hearing this since October but her speeches and actions say otherwise. She continues to talk about Palestinians like they're victims of an earthquake. Edited August 30 by State of Grace. 2 3
Communion Posted August 30 Posted August 30 4 minutes ago, Mariah4life said: she's obviously against Israel actions Also you all need to stop saying this. You're not going to convince anyone. She's not going to aid you in this charade. Each declaration of empathy and alleged concern is then met with some even worse doubling-down, harsher caricature of language about the lethality of American hegemony and the righteousness of the genocidal apartheid state. You cannot convince people that their own eyes are lying. You can't claim that Democrats and Republicans are meaningfully different yet then complain that Democratic voters cannot stomach support for genocide like Republicans can. 2 3
dman4life Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) I didn't really care for this interview and I see why Kamala hasn't done any. She's simply ready to be President and do the job after seeing how it's done first hand. She knows for a fact she can do it and do a better job. She's not here to play the game with msm. Problem is this is a campaign and she has to sell herself and her vision to voters at every opportunity and this feels like a missed one. Dana is such a trashy interviewer she didn't even press her about the aftermath of the debate and how Dems wanted him to step down, or we simply didn't see it. Edited August 30 by dman4life 2
GhostBox Posted August 30 Posted August 30 oh know that she did great on her first interview they wanna invent more tests? 😂 2
Relampago. Posted August 30 Posted August 30 10 minutes ago, Mariah4life said: Those who don't like her response to Israel, what the hell would you have said? She's running to win the battle, not lose supporters. It seems she's obviously against Israel actions but half the country and the entire U.S. history we are Israel ass kisser. She cannot risk our relationship with Israel. Beyond what I've already said, I am.. so tired of the narrative that we need to ass kiss Bibi and Israel. They are absolutely a key ally, especially on the geopolitical stage, but they need us a lot more than we need them. Imagine China bowing down to Kim Jong Un's tantrums. Xi would sooner let Taiwan go than have people think North Korea of all places has China by the balls. It's honestly pretty embarrassing for the US. 3
BOOMBAYAH Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) When it comes to Israel-Palestine, I think people need to accept that Kamala will continue to support Israel, and if elected, her government will continue to provide them with weapons. Trying to gaslight pro-Palestinians is useless and just strange, especially since she has made her stance on this issue clear. If a pro-Palestine American doesn't want to vote for her because of her support, so be it. Calling people bad or dumb over this is disingenuous, especially when both candidates will support Israel unconditionally—if your top priority is Palestine, both parties are essentially the same on the issue. You can't blame Arab, Palestinian, Muslim, or pro-Palestine Americans for not wanting to be a part of it and choosing not to vote. Edited August 30 by BOOMBAYAH 4 1
Sannie Posted August 30 Posted August 30 15 minutes ago, Mariah4life said: Those who don't like her response to Israel, what the hell would you have said? She's running to win the battle, not lose supporters. It seems she's obviously against Israel actions but half the country and the entire U.S. history we are Israel ass kisser. She cannot risk our relationship with Israel. She could stop with the "Israel has the right to defend itself" comment. That's the bare minimum. Since October, we have been watching in real time Israel going above and beyond defending itself. When she says this, it feels like she's saying she supports what Israel is doing. if she's going to keep saying this, she needs to say something to the effect of, "Israel has the right to defend itself, but it must be in a way that is proportionate". That would still be too much, in my opinion, but at least it shows that she understands Israel is doing too much. You don't defend yourself by genociding innocent people. 2
i spit on haters Posted August 30 Posted August 30 11 minutes ago, Relampago. said: Is this real cause lol, no.
GhostBox Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sannie said: She could stop with the "Israel has the right to defend itself" comment. That's the bare minimum. Since October, we have been watching in real time Israel going above and beyond defending itself. When she says this, it feels like she's saying she supports what Israel is doing. if she's going to keep saying this, she needs to say something to the effect of, "Israel has the right to defend itself, but it must be in a way that is proportionate". That would still be too much, in my opinion, but at least it shows that she understands Israel is doing too much. You don't defend yourself by genociding innocent people. that's basically what she said. "Isreal has a right to defend itself and how it does so matters" Edited August 30 by GhostBox 1
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