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ouuu them being first and trump being 6th dd

 

I think NC will be close 

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30 minutes ago, WildAmerican said:

 

ouuu them being first and trump being 6th dd

 

I think NC will be close 

I think the Governor race will put Harris over by 3%-5%.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Blue_Shirt said:

Treating politicians like favorite popstars? can't relate!

 

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Gotta love their generosity tho. They give away their vote and expect nothing in return. 

 

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6 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said:

I think the Governor race will put Harris over by 3%-5%.

hopefully. an NC win would replace a Michigan loss OR a Nevada/Wisconsin loss for her, so would be key.

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Harris/Walz being a Libra/Aries pairing and both year of the dragon has me feeling so seen :bird:

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This is what I imagine a meet up with this thread's popular posters would be like 

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2 hours ago, Armani? said:

Why wouldn't it be? It will be close. It depends on the White voters margins and turnout from her base there

 

Of the states that are genuinely in play, Georgia's been lagging the most. 

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52 minutes ago, Rotunda said:

This is what I imagine a meet up with this thread's popular posters would be like 

But what's the tea behind this? :eli: 

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13 minutes ago, Blade said:


 

Them being first on the NC ballot and Michigan might help them some. Seems trivial but every vote will count 

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I'm kind of cackling at the idea of people not reading the ballot and just giving up and either not voting or just tossing a vote at Kamala because she's listed first :ahh: 

 

Maybe the literacy rates dropping made some points. CLOSE the schools in Michigan and NC!

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13 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

Them being first on the NC ballot and Michigan might help them some. Seems trivial but every vote will count 

This is huge for both of those states. 

 

  • Krosnick, Miller, and Michael Tichyfound in 2003 that appearing first on the ballot in the 2000 presidential election increased George W. Bush's vote share by almost 10 percentage points relative to appearing last.
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26 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

I'm kind of cackling at the idea of people not reading the ballot and just giving up and either not voting or just tossing a vote at Kamala because she's listed first :ahh: 

 

Maybe the literacy rates dropping made some points. CLOSE the schools in Michigan and NC!

8 ppl on one section is a lot, like miss Ghostbox said, it's silly but it could matter on the margins 

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I'm always skeptical of these keys but assuming that these are the 4 undecideds that will decide the election, I would guess this points to a Kamala victory? The 3rd party, and social unrest would almost certainly go to her. I'm a little unsure of how the foreign success/failure will go. Gaza doesn't really seem to be seen as a failure, although I think the ceasefire deal not going through would possibly be considered a failure but Ukraine making progress in Russia might be considered a success, although I don't know how big that news is.

 

I know he said he was waiting till after the DNC to make a final prediction, so I'm interested in what it'll be.

 

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2 hours ago, WildAmerican said:

 

ouuu them being first and trump being 6th dd

 

I think NC will be close 

dddd I love the nuances of ballots. When everyone this year due to the open senate seat learned of the insanity of NJ's ballot system. 

 

(They're awful for primaries but always made voting in the general so easy if you were voting for all of the same party ddd :duck:)

 

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I'd be surprised if PA didn't go with whoever wins MI and WI but ...we live in weird times

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9 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said:

I'd be surprised if PA didn't go with whoever wins MI and WI but ...we live in weird times

they'll all be within 10k-100k votes i think :eli:

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16 minutes ago, Communion said:

dddd I love the nuances of ballots. When everyone this year due to the open senate seat learned of the insanity of NJ's ballot system. 

 

(They're awful for primaries but always made voting in the general so easy if you were voting for all of the same party ddd :duck:)

 

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H- how... how are people supposed to vote on this ballot? I got a headache just from looking at it. :hoetenks:

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19 minutes ago, Communion said:

dddd I love the nuances of ballots. When everyone this year due to the open senate seat learned of the insanity of NJ's ballot system. 

 

(They're awful for primaries but always made voting in the general so easy if you were voting for all of the same party ddd :duck:)

 

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..I don't even know what I'm looking at here nn

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oop 😂

 

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9 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Personally, this shows why I believe you people deserve nothing more than the absolute worst that a Trump presidency has to offer. :doc:

Kamala's speech was terrible and hawkish. But what the hell is the difference between this sentiment and liberals saying poor people in red states deserve to suffer because they vote red.
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Btw this next statement isn't directed at you but this thread has been derailed in the past few pages. I think discussion about the morals and or strategy related to voting is healthy but maybe we need a separate thread for those discussions because trying to get news/meaningful discussion about the state of the race on this thread has become increasingly difficult.

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44 minutes ago, Communion said:

dddd I love the nuances of ballots. When everyone this year due to the open senate seat learned of the insanity of NJ's ballot system. 

 

(They're awful for primaries but always made voting in the general so easy if you were voting for all of the same party ddd :duck:)

 

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Wtf am i even looking at?

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56 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

H- how... how are people supposed to vote on this ballot? I got a headache just from looking at it. :hoetenks:

 

54 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

..I don't even know what I'm looking at here nn

dddd they're party lines. So each row is a race, and each column is a 'line', but you don't have to vote for the same 'line' across rows. It's 'meant' for 'campaigning'.

 

So in primaries, often the incumbent state senate and incumbent state house candidates will team up in overlapping districts and campaign like "Vote Line B".

 

The below is for the general but the kinds of same signage appear for the primary. (Trying to find a good example from what I remember seeing in the past w/o doxxing myself ddd).

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That's why NJ is said to have some of the worst "machine" politics and why a progressive insurgency never happened in the state following 2016.

Because the county Democratic parties decide who gets the 'county' line on the primary ballots.

 

So you could be a young progressive running a good campaign for a state house seat.. but now your opponent's name will be directly under Joe Biden and Cory Booker's name on the primary ballot because the county party decades who gets to be a "Line". And the party will campaign on "Lines". Oh, you wanna vote for Biden in the primary? "Vote Line A!".

 

When Sen. Bob Menendez got indicted, Gov. Phil Murphy's wife decided to run for the seat and most of the county parties started endorsing her for the ballot line and it freaked out even the centrists because it basically meant she was likely gonna win over the centrist they wanted to take the seat (Rep. Andy Kim).

 

Kim sued the state over the party line for primaries (despite Murphy's wife dropping out of the race before the primary happened) so now Democratic primaries have to use a more normal looking ballot going forward, I believe (I and most people did not vote in this primary ddd). The effect is limited though as the county parties still get to put their little taglines on their preferred candidates, but the organizing of them is now changed from the party line format:

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