Popular Post Mike91 Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 (edited) I can't at some of y'all thinking a woman, let alone a black woman, can just go up on that stage and say whatever and expect to get elected as President of the United States. Do some of you forget what country we live in? Of course she doubled down on things like the military. Some people already have the perception that a woman would be weak on those issues and there's no doubt Trump is going to try and take advantage of every stereotype people have about women in politics and try to use them against her. Not to mention, the media is protecting Trump and waiting for the first opportunity to pounce on her. The speech was milquetoast and that's why it worked, for her. Though the Israel stuff was a little over the top ngl. Edited August 23 by Mike91 12 4
Harrier Posted August 23 Posted August 23 5 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: The point is that all the Never-Trump people the Dems decided were worth highlighting at their convention (while sidelining Palestinians out of nothing but pure, deep-seated racism) will abandon ship the instant they're allowed to rally around a Nikki Haley or Chris Christie candidate. But do non-college educated whites rally around a Nikki Haley to the same extent they have around Trump? I struggle to see that. Trump has had demographic upsides that are difficult to replicate for a traditional pro business conservative. In any case, my view is that post Trump, the Republicans will continue to become more extreme on the far right populism, and will replace him with someone who appeals to Trump's base but who unlike him may also be smart and effective. It wont be a return to the party of Romney and McCain, it'll be the party of Tucker Carlson, Vivek Ramaswamy and JD Vance. I'm not sure it is good for the overall health of the democratic party but 'former Republicans' are there to stay, I fear. 3
VOSS Posted August 23 Posted August 23 5 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: The only way there is a primary in 2028 is if Kamala loses this year. She'll ride the exact same incumbency train to the nomination that Biden did this year up until he humiliated himself on the debate stage ive said it before, but 2032 could be the first time we have a free and fair primary where the DNC doesn't have their thumb on the scale in some form or fashion (2016 superdelegates, 2020 coordinated dropouts after SC) since 2008. That's assuming Walz doesn't want the job at the end of it, because he'll only be 68 then, which makes him a spring chicken by Dem leadership standards (about 10 years younger than Biden was in 2020). He's claiming an air of humility now, but in 8 years a lot could change. I don't see it for Walz tbh. He's just not presidential. 3
VOSS Posted August 23 Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Harriser said: But do non-college educated whites rally around a Nikki Haley to the same extent they have around Trump? I struggle to see that. Trump has had demographic upsides that are difficult to replicate for a traditional pro business conservative. In any case, my view is that post Trump, the Republicans will continue to become more extreme on the far right populism, and will replace him with someone who appeals to Trump's base but who unlike him may also be smart and effective. It wont be a return to the party of Romney and McCain, it'll be the party of Tucker Carlson, Vivek Ramaswamy and JD Vance. I'm not sure it is good for the overall health of the democratic party but 'former Republicans' are there to stay, I fear. At least the GP seems to hate Vance, Ramaswamy, & co.
Jackson Posted August 23 Posted August 23 One thing that might not be apparent to people at home is how small the number of protestors was this week. The NYT reported on it this morning, but people were anticipating 30k+ protestors descending on Chicago and the biggest protest was maybe 1-2k. I live within a couple miles of the United Center and have witnessed countless Gaza protests all year long and the number of protesters this week was honestly less than the average weekend. I'm not sure if it has more to do with the change at the top of the ticket or people feeling like it wouldn't make a difference, but I know Chicago democrats are breathing a huge sigh of relief that this wasn't 1968. 5 2 1
Jackson Posted August 23 Posted August 23 25 minutes ago, FameFatale said: If she wins that photo is going to end up in museums and history books. If she loses, it's going to be another "happy birthday to this future President" 1
Douglas Booth Posted August 23 Posted August 23 Just now, truthteller said: Karen Bass' face when she posted that 3
WildAmerican Posted August 23 Posted August 23 15 minutes ago, Jackson said: One thing that might not be apparent to people at home is how small the number of protestors was this week. The NYT reported on it this morning, but people were anticipating 30k+ protestors descending on Chicago and the biggest protest was maybe 1-2k. I live within a couple miles of the United Center and have witnessed countless Gaza protests all year long and the number of protesters this week was honestly less than the average weekend. I'm not sure if it has more to do with the change at the top of the ticket or people feeling like it wouldn't make a difference, but I know Chicago democrats are breathing a huge sigh of relief that this wasn't 1968. aye another chicago peep yeah i honestly didn't even see too much convention activity but i live kinda on the other side of the town 4
Popular Post glitch Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 The way she's been beaten and kicked, is lying on the floor bleeding out and struggling to breathe and people are still getting their licks in 18
on the line Posted August 23 Posted August 23 3 hours ago, State of Grace. said: No wonder the racist genocide-supporting Libs in here are praising her speech. Keep rooting for this center-right warhawk. Keep claiming that you care about human rights. Keep calling anyone criticizing her a "Trump supporter" when she's running the most conservative Democratic campaign in ages. More radical by the day.... might be time to log off and reconnect with reality. 1 5
cartierdelrey Posted August 23 Posted August 23 Chile the way the GP has dunked on her beyond the Dr Luke associations… she's going to be livestreaming another therapy session 1
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 23 Posted August 23 This woman has went through more than Jesus ever did in the past two months…. 1 10 1
Thuggin Posted August 23 Posted August 23 At what point does the "middle/working class vs. 1%" distinction become stale and nebulous? Let's call it out: in 2024 the real divide is between those who own property, especially those who have made off like bandits on their property values post-pandemic - whether they're renting out property, flipping homes, sold their home, or looking to sell their home for exorbitant profit - and those of us who are stuck paying more and more in rent year after year indefinitely because we have no hope of owning a home anytime soon. 3
Breathe On Moi Posted August 23 Posted August 23 5 minutes ago, dabunique said: boom my mom absolutely loved her speech last night, and has repeated "we are not going back" several times, couldn't wait to tell me. I know it's doomsday in this thread every day, but the real world is still going apparently. 5
Jackson Posted August 23 Posted August 23 16 minutes ago, WildAmerican said: aye another chicago peep yeah i honestly didn't even see too much convention activity but i live kinda on the other side of the town I didn't see much near me either, but I made an effort to go downtown/west loop a few times to see for myself what was going on. The city was honestly quieter than usual other than the blacked out SUVs all over the city and Harris-Walz/DNC gear everywhere Happy to not have helicopters flying over my house for the first time in a week though 1 1
on the line Posted August 23 Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said: boom my mom absolutely loved her speech last night, and has repeated "we are not going back" several times, couldn't wait to tell me. I know it's doomsday in this thread every day, but the real world is still going apparently. This has been my experience too. This forum's agenda is not shared by most in the real world. 12 1 2
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