ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted August 23 Author ATRL Moderator Posted August 23 The Republican on CNN is kinda right - her speech didn't focus enough on the economy and inflation and Republicans will continue to associate these problems with the Biden presidency. 6
Sannie Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kylizzle said: The random China stray and her being more supportive of Ukraine than Palestine. Oh well.ย Well duh... Ukraine is an ally of the US that's under attack by one of our greatest geopolitical foes. A Russian defeat in Ukraine is something the US wants. ย Is it really surprising? ย 4 minutes ago, Relampago. said: You guys realize this was her moment to tell the country who Kamala Harris is? To define herself and her vision? ย All I heard during that speech was a bunch of meaningless platitudes. She sounded SO much stronger on the road, and balked at the last second. If I wasn't informed, I would leave that speech still wondering who I'm voting for. ย She failed to tackle any clear weaknesses, didn't say anything different or revolutionary, she might as well have copied another speech because it came across that way. ย I say this all who really wants her to win, but she is going to lose momentum fast if she doesn't keep showing people something new and differentโ especially if her campaign slogan is literally: we're not going back. ย I guess by that she meant we're not going all the way back to 2016, just 2020. While I don't really disagree, do we feel this way bc we do know where she stands? She touched on virtually every major issue important to voters: immigration, economy, abortion, military. And she said what she supports and how it all works? Edited August 23 by Sannie 3
BOOMBAYAH Posted August 23 Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Tovitov said: I think Kamala threaded a needle tonight. Calling for Palestinian self deterimination isnt nothing, although I think she layed it on alittle thick when it came to defending Israel.ย For a moment I even thought she wasn't going to mention Palestine at all after the big Israel statements nnnย 2
Tovitov Posted August 23 Posted August 23 1 minute ago, BOOMBAYAH said: For a moment I even thought she wasn't going to mention Palestine at all after the big Israel statements nnnย Same ย I was like, girlย 3
BOOMBAYAH Posted August 23 Posted August 23 1 minute ago, khalyan said: The Republican on CNN is kinda right - her speech didn't focus enough on the economy and inflation and Republicans will continue to associate these problems with the Biden presidency. I think what's tricky for her when it comes to this is that she's technically still in office and (on paper) the second most powerful figure in the world. It would be very hard to make the argument that you'll fix these issues when technically you've had the past 4 years to do so and haven't (although issues with the economy are a lot more complex than that, this is how everyday Americans will read it).ย 3
Bewitched Posted August 23 Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, FameFatale said: Umโฆ wtfย ย ย I mean this is clearly a rage bait video soโฆ
Pikachoo Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) oh the local news is already using the "we know what a trump presidency will look like; it's all laid out in project 2025" soundbite Edited August 23 by Pikachoo
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted August 23 ATRL Moderator Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said: That's so crazy that was not my impression of her speech at all. I'm not sure what you were expecting but that was a strong speech imo. She showed strength and articulated who she will be in comparison to Trump. She hit every mark she needed to.ย Not to be rude, but how many convention speeches have you watched? She sounded no different from Hillary in 2016 or Biden in 2020. The whole, โWe have more in common than we have differences among us,โ schtick is so generic ChatGPT probably would have written it if you asked it to write a DNC convention speech. 1 2 1
GhostBox Posted August 23 Posted August 23 Just now, Bloo said: Not to be rude, but how many convention speeches have you watched? She sounded no different from Hillary in 2016 or Biden in 2020. The whole, "We have more in common than we have differences among us," schtick is so generic ChatGPT probably would have written it if you asked it to write a DNC convention speech. As someone ย who watched every dnc since I can remember she was fantastic and much better than Hillary (who I was a big fan of) and definitely better than Biden ๐
Vermillion Posted August 23 Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Lightbringer007 said: not yall already saying its over I- There's folks here that have been saying that for weeks regardless of this speech, which just confirmed a lot of their worst fears. 5 1
toxicgenie Posted August 23 Posted August 23 It was a great speech and will appeal to undecided voters in the middle. She came across very strong and presidential. 9 4 1
GhostBox Posted August 23 Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, Lightbringer007 said: not yall already saying its over I- ย ย These are the same ones who come in here and only post negativity on a daily basis. This is nothing new.ย 2 4
rivers Posted August 23 Posted August 23 5 minutes ago, MAKSIM said: We can't even get guns banned domestically and y'all are expecting the median voter to engage in debate and discourse over the two state solution in Israel/Palestine. Let's be serious.ย ย Let's keep the talking points simple, return the hostages and get a ceasefire.ย I agree. Have we forgotten how polarized this country is rn?? Leftist policies will not be taken seriously for quite awhile. In fact this new world of misinformation will make it an uphill battle. ย I can't even say I'm ready for those polices. I'm still left of middle on quite a few thingsย 6 2
hausofdave Posted August 23 Posted August 23 Trump ran crying to his safespace away from home Fox and they cut him offย
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted August 23 ATRL Moderator Posted August 23 Just now, GhostBox said: As someone ย who watched every dnc since I can remember she was fantastic and much better than Hillary (who I was a big fan of) and definitely better than Biden ๐ This was a huge theme of Hillaryโs speech and itโs no different from Kamalaโs: Quote I refuse to believe we canโt find common ground here. We have to heal the divides in our country. Not just on guns. But on race. Immigration. And more. That starts with listening to each other. Hearing each other. Trying, as best we can, to walk in each otherโs shoes. ย 1
Sannie Posted August 23 Posted August 23 Although I understand the optics behind including Republicans, I just can't stand these wolves in sheep clothing. They will fall back in line with the GOP as soon as Trump is gone. If you really don't recognize your party, change your affiliation to prove it. 3 2
The Music Industry Posted August 23 Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, Bloo said: Not to be rude, but how many convention speeches have you watched? She sounded no different from Hillary in 2016 or Biden in 2020. The whole, "We have more in common than we have differences among us," schtick is so generic ChatGPT probably would have written it if you asked it to write a DNC convention speech. Just asked ChatGPT to do a draft speech and 12
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted August 23 ATRL Moderator Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, GhostBox said: These are the same ones who come in here and only post negativity on a daily basis. This is nothing new.ย These are the same people that said Democratsโ only shot at winning was replacing Biden with someone else even if itโs Kamala (someone we do not like); these are the same people that advocated for Tim Walz for VP. ย Given our very recent track record, Iโd say you should maybe take our commentary more seriously.ย 1 6 1
ultraviolence.xx Posted August 23 Posted August 23 damn i just typed out some big ass thing and it got eaten up in a page refresh. ย but i hope their abandonment of uncommitted et al. is worth it for them ย 2
Dula Peep Posted August 23 Posted August 23 16 minutes ago, hausofdave said: Fox News is saying it was a good speech ย They don't actually care about Trump winning.. they just care about ratings so a Kamala presidency is still a win for them where they can attack her every dayโฆ
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