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[CamCam]

She knocked that speech right out of the park.

[dlwlrma]

[Pikachoo]

okay so who is the surprise speaker?

[Bloo]

1 minute ago, Sannie said:

Yep. And anyone who doesn't understand that the US and Israel will always be allies whether we like it or not are not operating in good faith.

Funny, the founding father, James Madison, said the same thing about slavery—that it’s a bad thing but it was unrealistic to imagine our economy without it.

[Not Like The Movies]

Great speech

 

Some of yall need to be a bit more logical/realistic about certain things. 

[Not Like The Movies]

So no surprise? ijbol

[Redstreak]

Who would have thought AOC would have given the best speech of the convention 

[Gov Hooka]

2 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

I'm sorry y'all, this could have been a big moment for her but I'm seeing a lot of generic, run-of-the-mill centrist Democrat bullsh*t.

 

I'm sure she is different than Biden, but that did not come across in this speech at ALL. I don't see this DNC being a huge boost for her, but we'll see. 

 

I'm ****ing sad.

I'm not sad, I'm genuinely concerned and worried for how bad her admin is going to be on several issues and we have peabrained asshats in the crowd cheering this bullshit on…

 She's likely going to win as of what the polls are saying now (even though I'm going to fight like hell to make sure she loses in Michigan) because of how awful a candidate trump is but geez she is effectively handing the presidency to the GOP in 2028. 
4 more years of centrist inaction and incrementalism at best or horrific continued rightwing shifts on Palestinian genocide, MIC handouts immigration, policing, oil/gas drilling, privatized Medicare, etc at worst.

it's not looking good longterm. None in the Dem base have expressed any desire to actually push this party to the left on several policies

[Sannie]

2 minutes ago, khalyan said:

I think she's so close to finding a message on Israel/Palestine that I think can really appeal to everyone, but that aspect of her speech tonight was a little unfortunate and not quite there. 

I agree.

 

I'm curious if after she wins, will she then get serious? She almost has to act like a Trojan Horse and keep quiet until she has the power lol.

 

2 minutes ago, shelven said:

"Generic Ballot Democrat" consistently polls higher than any actual named Democrat, so her team probably views this as a good thing

This is the game plan, imo. America wants generic right now. And with the way the media treats Dems, she really can't give anyone anything crazy to latch onto. So far, nothing has stuck, and they want to keep it that way.

[karron0624]

That was a good speech. She got a little war hawkish there, but did appreciate the callout to Gaza. She came off as very presidential and think she has a good shot going forward.

[Bloo]

1 minute ago, Pikachoo said:

I thought she did well. she took some shots at trump too, which will make great soundbites for the news cycle tomorrow

The problem with this is that shots against Trump are over-saturated. Trump is the most overexposed presidential candidate in history. People will not change their minds about him. Seeing Kamala recycle the same criticisms won’t move anyone. The only thing she can do is build herself up and she didn’t do that good of a job in terms of building out her poltiical identity. She’s a generic democrat, which to @shelven’s point, polls well. But, I don’t know her central issues or goals if she’s elected president.

[BOOMBAYAH]

I was kinda taken aback by the random warmongering like shshsh ? The mention of dictators and China took me out because she usually focuses on domestic stuff.  

[Breathe On Moi]

She absolutely cleared imo and the end bit was very uplifting and what we need. She did fantastic.

 

i didn't expect everyone to be satisfied, but this is reality. 

[Lil Mistee]

4 minutes ago, khalyan said:

I think she's so close to finding a message on Israel/Palestine that I think can really appeal to everyone, but that aspect of her speech tonight was a little unfortunate and not quite there. 

I agree, but I also think, for some people, it will never appeal to them. 

[Gov Hooka]

4 minutes ago, khalyan said:

I think she's so close to finding a message on Israel/Palestine that I think can really appeal to everyone, but that aspect of her speech tonight was a little unfortunate and not quite there. 

Appealing to fascists/Zionists is actually a bad thing. My heart aches for the Palestinian people so hard. These past four days have been infuriating to the highest degree 

[Pikachoo]

Just now, Gov Hooka said:

I'm not sad, I'm genuinely concerned and worried for how bad her admin is going to be on several issues and we have peabrained asshats in the crowd cheering this bullshit on…

 She's likely going to win as of what the polls are saying now (even though I'm going to fight like hell to make sure she loses in Michigan) because of how awful a candidate trump is but geez she is effectively handing the presidency to the GOP in 2028. 
4 more years of centrist inaction and incrementalism at best or horrific continued rightwing shifts on Palestinian genocide, MIC handouts immigration, policing, oil/gas drilling, privatized Medicare, etc at worst.

it's not looking good longterm. None in the Dem base have expressed any desire to actually push this party to the left on several policies

 

[Not Like The Movies]

1 minute ago, Redstreak said:

Who would have thought AOC would have given the best speech of the convention 

Michelle Obama won 

[hausofdave]

Fox News is saying it was a good speech

 

Edited August 23 by hausofdave

[Sannie]

2 minutes ago, Bloo said:

The problem with this is that shots against Trump are over-saturated. Trump is the most overexposed presidential candidate in history. People will not change their minds about him. Seeing Kamala recycle the same criticisms won't move anyone. The only thing she can do is build herself up and she didn't do that good of a job in terms of building out her poltiical identity. She's a generic democrat, which to @shelven's point, polls well. But, I don't know her central issues or goals if she's elected president.

100%. That's why I was hoping the focus would be more on her and moving forward. Apparently more positivity polls better than attacking Trump (probably for the reason you said).

[Gov Hooka]

1 minute ago, BOOMBAYAH said:

I was kinda taken aback by the random warmongering like shshsh ? The mention of dictators and China took me out because she usually focuses on domestic stuff.  

The US is currently instigating a military conflict  between the Philippines and China. 
this woman and her party have demonstrated steadfast commitment to the military industrial complex. We are so ****** 

[khalyan]

4 minutes ago, Sannie said:

Yep. And anyone who doesn't understand that the US and Israel will always be allies whether we like it or not are not operating in good faith. She's running for President so she has to take the most down-the-middle approach to this as possible. It's all a game and she wants to win.

 

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Great speech; to the point, frank, and laid out the facts. All in all, a pretty good convention!

I think you can plead to work with an Israel without Netanyahu and make that clearer in the speech.

[GhostBox]

1 minute ago, Lil Mistee said:

I agree, but I also think, for some people, it will never appeal to them. 

Some wouldn't be happy unless she said Isreal shouldn't exist at all. 
 

That's what they want and it's never going to happen. 
 

if anyone had an issue with what she said about The Isreal/Gaza situation are not being serious. 

[Lightbringer007]

HELP-

 

 

 

[ultraviolence.xx]

it seems to me like their biggest goal, especially today, was trying to win over mild republicans with moral concerns re: Trump

[Gov Hooka]

1 minute ago, Pikachoo said:

 

There are more than two parties. 
hope that helps. If she loses in Michigan it's her and her party's fault that folks didn't choose her party.