Bears01 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, Sannie said: "Republicans are attacking him so this means it's a bad pick!" Like, do you not realize how stupid this logic is? ย ย Meanwhile, the Democrats are more excited and engaged than they have been in over a decade. Republicans don't vote for the Dem nominee, Dems do. Enthusiasm is what wins elections. It's almost like the media is finally starting to understand why we wanted Waltz:ย ย ย ย Unlike republicans, democrats aren't a cult, and have a larger base that has to be pleased and listened to.ย 1 1 1
Popular Post cloudbusting Posted August 6 Popular Post Posted August 6 59 minutes ago, NausAllien said: Wow... you are completely delusional. Maybe talking to people outside of this echo chamber will do you good! ย ย 40 minutes ago, NausAllien said: I've seen tons of Republicans already attack Walz for her handling of the BML "fiery but peaceful" riots: ย ย With Walz on the ticket, Republicans now have a great line of attack. It will be easy for them to create a caricature of Walz and turn off independent and low-information voters. They were struggling to find a way to attack Kamala, but with Walz, it is pretty easy. This is as bad as Trump picking Vance. ย ย I'm starting to wonder when exactly your family arrived in Argentinaย 19
NausAllien Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, khalyan said: @NausAllienย while I think a lot of different voices should be able to express their views in this thread, if you are going to purposefully try to provoke our members with some of your posts I will need you to stop reporting their responses.ย I only report those that personally attack me, calling me dense, a troll, etc. I'm not trying to provoke anyone. But it seems most users here get really triggered when someone has a different opinion. Some users will try and engage and tell me why they think I'm wrong. While others simply resort to attacks and calling me names.ย ย ย
MAKSIM Posted August 6 Posted August 6 (edited) The statements Beshear, Kelly and Buttigieg made as opposed to the one Shapiro made show exactly why Shapiro shouldn't have been picked.ย ย The others were very much about Harris-Walz while Shapiro's was very much about himself and his career. Being VP is first and foremost about trust and being a team player. The others exhibited that, while he didn't.ย Edited August 6 by MAKSIM 6 7
Blade Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, NausAllien said: I only report those that personally attack me, calling me dense, a troll, etc. I'm not trying to provoke anyone. But it seems most users here get really triggered when someone has a different opinion. Some users will try and engage and tell me why they think I'm wrong. While others simply resort to attacks and calling me names.ย ย ย Sis 90% of this thread disagrees with a lot of Communion and ClashandBurn's takes and they aren't getting your type of pushback because they don't argue in bad faith. 6 5 4 1
NausAllien Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, cloudbusting said: ย I'm starting to wonder when exactly your family arrived in Argentinaย After WWI (c. 1920-1930). 3/4 of my grandparents were born in Italy. My maternal grandmother was half Mapuche and half Spanish. ย
Rotunda Posted August 6 Posted August 6 8 minutes ago, khalyan said: @NausAllienย while I think a lot of different voices should be able to express their views in this thread, if you are going to purposefully try to provoke our members with some of your posts I will need you to stop reporting their responses.ย Catch it!!ย @NausAllien ย ย 3
Opulent Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Super happy that she picked Walz Shapiro would have been a disaster
Communion Posted August 6 Posted August 6 ย -- ย I get why @NausAllienย might not actually get certain nuances because certain things aren't clear from online snapshots.ย ย Biden's one term presidency felt like it was riddled by stagnation. Be it his own ideology or COVID or inflation. It's like we got out of COVID and then the car battery died and the wheels started to deflate and the AC broke with the windows up in hot ass weather. There was tension and resentment brewing.ย ย While not my ideal ticket - and being a main character blue state diva, I won't know who I'm voting for until I enter the voting booth - it feels like Dems are at least back to the place Obama left off and where Clinton was aiming for in terms of progressive national unity. Common sense progressive policies. A kind of rising tides floor of progressive values that should be accepted as the necessary baseline. Something that fell apart as Dems contorted themselves through an identity crisis after losing to Trump due to Clinton's immense character flaws.ย ย I as a leftist still want to get back to where we left off with Sanders around 2017 - my single issue is M4A and single payer healthcare - and think such is inevitable with the contradictions of capitalism if Harris let's a liberal agenda fall into the same traps Obama did, but there's something psychological about a fresh start. A page turn. Closing the chapter on the Clinton era of politics (1992-2023). You inevitably might miss out on a sense of a new path being charted if you're not actually living and experiencing these political realities yourself.ย 4 2
Relampago. Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, NausAllien said: After WWI (c. 1920-1930). 3/4 of my grandparents were born in Italy. My maternal grandmother was half Mapuche and half Spanish. ย Pleaseโฆ nn ย
Bears01 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 5 minutes ago, NausAllien said: I only report those that personally attack me, calling me dense, a troll, etc. I'm not trying to provoke anyone. But it seems most users here get really triggered when someone has a different opinion. Some users will try and engage and tell me why they think I'm wrong. While others simply resort to attacks and calling me names.ย ย ย You tell American citizens, who live in America and more than likely personally know MAGA Republicans, that they live in an echo chamber, while getting your sources on the pulse of the American electorate through Twitterโฆ. ย Likeโฆ. 10 1
wastedpotential Posted August 6 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, Armani? said: Lmao Get him on ESPN as a guest commentatorย
NausAllien Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, Bears01 said: You tell American citizens, who live in America and more than likely personally know MAGA Republicans, that they live in an echo chamber ย You know them, but do you engage with them? It's hard to believe you do so in good faith given how aggressive some of you are. Calling them names, just as you call me names, is not engaging with them. Having meaningful conversations, and trying to understand their point of view, even if you strongly disagree with it, makes a world of difference. ย
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted August 6 ATRL Moderator Posted August 6 1 minute ago, NausAllien said: You know them, but do you engage with them? It's hard to believe you do so in good faith given how aggressive some of you are. Calling them names, just as you call me names, is not engaging with them. Having meaningful conversations, and trying to understand their point of view, even if you strongly disagree with it, makes a world of difference. ย You do realize people communicate differently on the Internet than they do in real life, right? 4 1
Mike91 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Is someone arguing that Tim Walz was a mistake because... republicans will attack him?ย 1
cloudbusting Posted August 6 Posted August 6 5 minutes ago, Bears01 said: You tell American citizens, who live in America and more than likely personally know MAGA Republicans, that they live in an echo chamber, while getting your sources on the pulse of the American electorate through Twitterโฆ. ย Likeโฆ. And like myself and others have said it before, but we have several other international users who comment in this thread without receiving the same kind of pushbackโฆ what's not clicking 1
thesegayz Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Just now, Bloo said: You do realize people communicate differently on the Internet than they do in real life, right? Does he not know the context of all which that came before him? 4
Bears01 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NausAllien said: You know them, but do you engage with them? It's hard to believe you do so in good faith given how aggressive some of you are. Calling them names, just as you call me names, is not engaging with them. Having meaningful conversations, and trying to understand their point of view, even if you strongly disagree with it, makes a world of difference. ย Dawg, ALL of my friends, and every family member on my mother's side, are Trump supporters. I live in INDIANA โฆ.stopย Edited August 6 by Bears01
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