ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted August 6 ATRL Moderator Posted August 6 1 minute ago, NausAllien said: They're actually having a blast because they think this is the mistake that will cost Kamala the election! Tell me you don't interact with Conservatives and MAGA without telling me you don't interact with them... They think calling him progressive will alienate moderates when really it just gives him a chance to defend his record and explain why providing free tuition and reducing child poverty are good policies 7 2
Bears01 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, NausAllien said: Wow... you are completely delusional. Maybe talking to people outside of this echo chamber will do you good! YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN. Dont tell Americans who interact and know republicans in real life anything about their "echo chambers" And this is a massive apology to any non American on here who enjoys talking American politics (seriously I love all of you). My issues specifically are with this user 7 6
Communion Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Oh! A rural veteran with little actual appetite to see the cycle of war continue and perpetuate! 4
Aston Martin Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Just now, NausAllien said: They're actually having a blast because they think this is the mistake that will cost Kamala the election! Tell me you don't interact with Conservatives and MAGA without telling me you don't interact with them... I live in one of the reddest states in the US, and thus I have to interact with them on a daily basis. You're yapping on about interacting with the other side when you don't even live here These same conservatives thought that the greater US public wouldn't care about abortion (wrong), would broadly support Project 2025 (wrong), and JD Vance was a good vp pick (wrong again). I have yet to see any evidence that their or your political opinions are in tune with the average American's 7 2
Rotunda Posted August 6 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, NausAllien said: Wow... you are completely delusional. Maybe talking to people outside of this echo chamber will do you good! If I whispered in your ear I'm sure I could hear it echo in your skull 12
wastedpotential Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, NausAllien said: Wow... you are completely delusional. Maybe talking to people outside of this echo chamber will do you good! dddd sister I live in a county that went for Trump by 15 points and about 75% of the people I work with are ardent Republicans, who I've been having conversations with about Tim Walz all morning. I can (and have) literally just call up my Trump voting parents and ask them what they think about Tim Walz that's not ending up on Twitter I know it's hard for you to get an accurate read of American politics from 5000 miles away but please don't make assumptions about my echo chamber 8
Sannie Posted August 6 Posted August 6 7 minutes ago, Bears01 said: "For what it's worth republicans ecstatic about the pick". They were going to be "ecstatic" no matter who she picked, dawg. They were going to taint anyone she picked as a "radical left socialist" and were already blatantly prepared to divide the left if they chose Shapiro. What do you not get about republicans and how they operate by now? Oh, you're a non American cos playing as a conservative troll, that's what you don't get dddd right? Like, are we supposed to be surprised the right-wing echo chamber is excited and thinks a man who gave kids free school meals is going to lose the election for Kamala? Just more proof of how out-of-touch they are. 7 minutes ago, NausAllien said: They're actually having a blast because they think this is the mistake that will cost Kamala the election! Tell me you don't interact with Conservatives and MAGA without telling me you don't interact with them... Yeah, no, we don't interact with people who believe in eugenics, race science, and think trans people should be eradicated from the planet. It says a lot about you that you do.
dabunique Posted August 6 Posted August 6 I can't wait to get my Harris/Walz flag and make da Cubans seethe in my neighborhood i'm also gettin a Cubans for Kamala shirt lol 4
Popular Post bunnyeyes Posted August 6 Popular Post Posted August 6 (edited) Everyone wants to wake up to the news I woke up to this morning. Everyone. I was preparing my coffee, turning on Wi-Fi, and the first thing I read is: "Kamala picks Walz as her running mate." I blinked my eyes countless times and went on ATRL just to see more and more posts about it. I couldn't believe it. My political dream was coming true, and there I was at 8 AM, sitting in my kitchen, looking at the screen of my iPhone. I know this may sound a bit too much but… Yes. Tears started welling up in my eyes, and they wouldn't stop. I don't consider this to be an overdramatic reaction like many of you could easily consider. I look at it as unconditional love, dedication, and passion. Something unexplainable; no one can translate hope into words or even admiration. Some people get your attention, and you don't know why. And while I am fully aware that the election campaign is not over, it's just beginning, I also am aware that it's going to be different now. It doesn't matter if it is Kamala or Walz; it doesn't. I saw this movement being born when they were just an idea. A few years later, they turned into a strong and confident team and extremely inspirational. They brought the term "progressive" back into the political industry and scored two of the biggest victories of this new decade. I was obsessed and extremely proud of it. I've always been aware that political campaigns are not meant to last, and that's why I flew to rallies just to see them live last year. I knew this was a fast-moving career, and that's why I spent over $800 on this campaign (I've watched them live twice, I met them twice, I bought their merchandise, I took a trip just to see them, paid hotel… You make the counts!). I wanted to live it as much as I could, and looking back, I am so proud of every single thing I did for them. They brought back my passion for activism in a way I've never experienced before. Other campaigns were different, and it's another story on how their movements are handled. Every Kamala fan was aware that a running mate decision was coming. Ever since the 2020 primaries became intense, something had to change, and the relationship between Kamala and potential running mates has always been crucial. There's speculation, and I don't know what to think. Nonetheless, I am no one to judge that. All I want to make clear is: this campaign is never going to be the same again, and that's why I feel like my political dream is just beginning. My dream has transformed. It feels so good when you're not prepared… After all, they announced new policies just last week. And no, I am not turning my back on Daddy Beshear. This was a strategic decision, but I know what it's like to be in a place where you don't belong or feel included, and sometimes... It's better to just go for it. Yet, I always like to see things from the bright side, and I am going to always support Kamala and Walz as a team just like any of the other candidates as individual leaders. They've had an amazing and beautiful impact on my life. Kamala and Walz… Good luck. Kamala Harris… Good luck. Kamala… Thank you. You've given me the ultimate political experience, and you've been so inspirational. All of you. "Everything is perfect," Kamala, "Everything Is Romantic" from BRAT by Charli xcx. Edited August 6 by bunnyeyes 1 21
WildAmerican Posted August 6 Posted August 6 10 minutes ago, NausAllien said: They're actually having a blast because they think this is the mistake that will cost Kamala the election! Tell me you don't interact with Conservatives and MAGA without telling me you don't interact with them... and where do you live, Miss Naus?? 1 5
Relampago. Posted August 6 Posted August 6 6 minutes ago, Newt said: I see folks highlighting aspects of Walz' record, and he appears to be progressive in his political ambitions. At the same time, I see folks indicating that prior to this point, they saw him as a moderate, not a progressive. What is driving this disconnect? Is this an example of progressives on the left playing purity politics and not claiming him because of a few specific incidents that don't necessarily represent his overall political inclinations (i.e. the article I just saw about building pipes on indigenous land). OR are people just excited and selectively highlighting the progressive aspects of his politics, when in actuality he's demonstrated that he's far more moderate than what people are currently presenting him as? Being progressive in the US means not supporting genocide and making sure children can be fed at school This is like… the bare minimum in many industrialized countries. He would be moderate in more progressive countries but he's the second coming of Che Guevara in the US. 2
Aden Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, Aston Martin said: I live in one of the reddest states in the US, and thus I have to interact with them on a daily basis. You're yapping on about interacting with the other side when you don't even live here These same conservatives thought that the greater US public wouldn't care about abortion (wrong), would broadly support Project 2025 (wrong), and JD Vance was a good vp pick (wrong again). I have yet to see any evidence that their or your political opinions are in tune with the average American's This. The median American may be generally politically independent/centered but with the increasing diversification of American demographics, American is inevitably going to shift left even if to a small extent. This is why people have gotten things like the impact of Roe wrong. Most Americans want to mind their own business. They're simply not as hungry for things like culture wars, restricting rights, Project 2025, or other punitive bullsh*t. I just know they're completely over politics being an unhinged zoo and because of that fact, Trump has a HUGE uphill battle. 3
Sannie Posted August 6 Posted August 6 The Trump campaign has Trump doing live streams with an out-of-touch, racist streamers who appeal to the dredges of American society while Kamala just chose a working-class educator, veteran, and genuinely kind man to be her running mate. The two parties couldn't be any more different. 5 3
ClashAndBurn Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 hours ago, Vroom Vroom said: @ClashAndBurn get ready to vote for Kamala!! #HelpMoveGeorgiaForward I'm an *** of my word. Was always planning to with any VP pick other than Shapiro 2 3 2
Communion Posted August 6 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, Newt said: I see folks highlighting aspects of Walz' record, and he appears to be progressive in his political ambitions. At the same time, I see folks indicating that prior to this point, they saw him as a moderate, not a progressive. What is driving this disconnect? Is this an example of progressives on the left playing purity politics and not claiming him because of a few specific incidents that don't necessarily represent his overall political inclinations (i.e. the article I just saw about building pipes on indigenous land). OR are people just excited and selectively highlighting the progressive aspects of his politics, when in actuality he's demonstrated that he's far more moderate than what people are currently presenting him as? He was a center left Dem in his time in the House and basically decided to work with progressives instead of against them when the strongest opponent he had was a progressive in his original primary for governor and basically worked with the progressive legislature to pass a slew of policies that progressives in the state had been fighting for now that they finally had a (1-seat) majority. His weaknesses to progressives would be that he's a normie at the end of the day and not a revolutionary. So when he has tried to play his hand and gets out-played, he ends up towing to political pressures. See: Him using his veto for the first time to cancel a minimum wage bill for rideshare drivers after Uber actually called the state's bluff and said they'd be removing the service from the entire state if passed. Also him calling in the national guard during the 2020 George Floyd protests after political pressure mounted. He was the most progressive pick out of the options and Minnesota will now get a new governor who is more of an ideological progressive than Walz. 5
on the line Posted August 6 Posted August 6 10 minutes ago, Newt said: I see folks highlighting aspects of Walz' record, and he appears to be progressive in his political ambitions. At the same time, I see folks indicating that prior to this point, they saw him as a moderate, not a progressive. What is driving this disconnect? Is this an example of progressives on the left playing purity politics and not claiming him because of a few specific incidents that don't necessarily represent his overall political inclinations (i.e. the article I just saw about building pipes on indigenous land). OR are people just excited and selectively highlighting the progressive aspects of his politics, when in actuality he's demonstrated that he's far more moderate than what people are currently presenting him as? The latter plus people see something written in print and take it as the gods honest truth. He is very much a moderate who supports common sense policy, many which are values for progressives too. My MN friends are very confused by this progressive label.
FameFatale Posted August 6 Posted August 6 People just live streaming and staked out at The Walz home is sending me
Popular Post justin. Posted August 6 Popular Post Posted August 6 Knowing Shapiro was shooting hoops last night feeling like a washed-up middle-aged loser, makes me so happy. I love venn diagrams! 17
teresaguidice Posted August 6 Posted August 6 22 minutes ago, NausAllien said: She picked Walz. It seems she realized Shapiro was tainted goods. This is a risky bet for progressives. They have a progressive candidate on the ticket, but if he loses, no mainstream politician will want to touch another progressive with a ten-foot pole. He'll be blamed for the defeat. If he wins, it will signal a change in the tide for mainstream politicians, and you'll see more progressive policies being pushed in Congress. For what it's worth, Republicans and MAGA are ecstatic about this pick. There's even a video of Walz talking about being a socialist, and that video is spreading like wildfire. Socialism has always been the boogeyman of the Right, and this might turn independents off the ticket. Not to mention, never-Trump Republicans. were you not here every single day saying shapiro was a done deal per the betting market and that he would be a campaign ender? 8
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